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Wisconsin CCW Permit Holders Made a Difference in The Trump Election
Gun Watch ^ | 23 November, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/27/2016 4:21:54 AM PST by marktwain



Wisconsin was one of the last states to create a permit system for legal concealed carry of weapons.  Permits were first issued in November, 2011. Five years later, 319,069 Wisconsin residents had permits.

To obtain a permit, the applicant had to be 21 years old or older, a legal Wisconsin resident, and not convicted of any felonies or misdemeanor acts of domestic violence.

People who go to the trouble to obtain a permit are serious about their Second Amendment rights. In Wisconsin, probably half are Democrats and Independents. CCW permit holders are, as a group, some of the most law abiding people in America.

My experience as a concealed carry instructor showed me that these people are ultra responsible. They show up early. They offer to help out. They offer to clean up. I never had a problem with bad checks, in fifteen years.

My experience was that most are not NRA members.  Most are not hunters. Most are gun owners. A significant number are veterans or have experience with law enforcement. They tend to be older, experienced, people. About 20 percent are women.

These people are voters, and they vote. I believe they vote in very large numbers, probably in excess of 80 percent.

The 2016 general election in Wisconsin was down a bit from 2012.  There were 3.068 million votes cast for presidential candidates in 2012.  The 2016 election had 2.944 million votes cast, down about four percent.

The difference between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin was 27,257 votes. That is less than 9% of the concealed carry permit holders in the state. In 2016, Donald Trump actively courted Second Amendment supporters.  He actively courted concealed carry permit holders.  He bragged about having a concealed carry permit.  He promised that a priority of his administration would be to pass national concealed carry reciprocity, something desired by the vast majority of CCW permit holders.

In contrast, Hillary Clinton made "common sense" gun control a major plank in her platform.  Her euphemism might have gotten a pass from a majority of people who do not own guns. It would not have gotten a pass with informed gun owners, which, includes, almost be definition, people who have a concealed carry permit.

Support for the Second Amendment was not a pivotal issue in the 2012 election.  Most Second Amendment supporters were not enthusiastic about Mitt Romney. President Obama did not push for more gun control with any enthusiasm, until after the election.

Wisconsin only had one year of its shall issue concealed carry program in effect by election night, 2012.  By election night 2016, it had over 319,000 concealed carry permit holders.

They made a difference.  Was it enough to swing the election?  It is impossible to know.  But when Democrats explicitly endorse gun control, they lose, and they lose bigly (big league).

Donald Trump pulled off the biggest upset of presidential politics since Truman. Part of his campaign was to actively pursue Second Amendment supporters.

©2016 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.

Link to Gun Watch


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; concealedcarry; wi
John Lott has noted the rise in the number of people with concealed carry permits, now more than 15 million. He suspected they could tip election results.
1 posted on 11/27/2016 4:21:54 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

More CCW folks should join NRA or GOA or both. There is great strength in numbers.


2 posted on 11/27/2016 5:01:44 AM PST by donozark (It is true after all. Hillary Clinton really IS the Fouke Monster)
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To: marktwain

Every little bit helped. This theory is as good as any other.


3 posted on 11/27/2016 5:09:16 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: marktwain

And from the polar opposite angle, it would explain why the left frowns upon the existence of more lawfully armed Americans.

We take care of ourselves instead of relying on the state to do it.


4 posted on 11/27/2016 5:47:51 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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I am convinced that the attitudinal change of being armed is more important than the actual use. Attitude is with you 24/7. Actual defensive uses occur very infrequently.

The founders and many classical writers believed this as well. Bearing arms inculcates responsibility, individual toughness, independence, and foresight.


5 posted on 11/27/2016 6:10:50 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Completely agree.
And, it’s a learned attitude. From first-time carrying paranoias and discomfort slowly evolving into the ease and abilities. It’s something that takes time and work to develop, and differs for everyone. But the attitude becomes the same.
And they can’t stand it.


6 posted on 11/27/2016 6:25:52 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: marktwain

My husband & I both had concealed carry permits in Oregon. However, as of July we now live in Idaho & as of July 1st Idaho became a constitutional carry state. So we don’t need a permit to carry concealed, & I don’t even know if the state will continue to give permits. If there’s a national reciprocity law, what do we do?! There’s no Idaho permit.


7 posted on 11/27/2016 7:19:09 AM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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My husband & I both had concealed carry permits in Oregon. However, as of July we now live in Idaho & as of July 1st Idaho became a constitutional carry state. So we don’t need a permit to carry concealed, & I don’t even know if the state will continue to give permits. If there’s a national reciprocity law, what do we do?! There’s no Idaho permit.

I'm not aware of any state no longer issuing CCW permits after going Constitutional carry. I know Alaska and Arizona still offer CCW permit for reciprocity purposes. The only ones out if national reciprocity occurs are those from Vermont.

8 posted on 11/27/2016 7:39:02 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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Trump won ME-2, MI, PA, WI and almost won dark blue MN. All states with large numbers of blue collar traditional Demo voters who are hunters.

I think the role of blue collar gun owners voting for Trump because of Clinton’s extremist gun control position is the over looked story of this election


9 posted on 11/27/2016 7:53:38 AM PST by MNJohnnie (This revolt is not ending, it is merely beginning.- Pat Caddell)
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To: AlaskaErik

I’ll have to look into it, assuming Nat’l Reciprocity is passed. We always meant to get Utah’s permit, as Oregon refused reciprocity & Utah would’ve given us reciprocity in 25-30 other states.


10 posted on 11/27/2016 8:19:41 AM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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