Posted on 05/29/2019 11:08:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
A CNN panel on Cuomo Prime Time dissolved into chaos as Cuomo and his two guests, Van Jones and Steve Cortes, got into a heated argument and constantly interrupted one another over Donald Trump’s attacks on the 1989 Central Park Five rape case in New York City. “I’m not going to let you lie,” Jones declared when Cortes began to question the innocence of the five men who were convicted and then, years later, fully exonerated from the crime.
That infamous case of law enforcement abuse and false imprisonment exploded back into the news on Monday after the president tweeted a condemnation the 1994 crime bill that then-Senator Joe Biden voted for and portrayed himself as a criminal justice reformer.
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They’re still guilty as hell.
I saw a documentary on this. They confessed in detail, but the DNA evidence said otherwise, and the guy who later took responsibility knew of at least two details no one else but the cops knew.
I guess the moral of the story is be careful what you confess to.
Is this the “wilding” incident?
Yup. The Central Park jogger case. I remember it as I was living in Connecticut, and they transferred her to the specialty Gaylord Hospital in my home town of Wallingford.
Any reminders that Cuomo’s Dad had been the guvnah during the entire saga?
Thanks for the reply.
That is my understanding. This case set off a media frenzy and the victim, as I recall, was a virtual candidate for canonization. The NYPD was under the hammer big time to find some likely suspects and shake a confession out of them. They did. These people were not Sunday school scholars but they were rail roaded. One does wonder how many got this treatment before DNA was around. Police and big city police especially often do believe what the magistrate told Steve McQueen in Papilion . ‘It is irrelevant whether you are guilty of these charges. You have committed many crimes you were not prosecuted for and if you remain in France will go on committing crimes. France is rid of you.’
Sorry. Guilty. And no Ken Burns doc is going to tell me differently. This happened about two blocks from where I lived at the time.
It happens more often than most can imagine, innocent people being worn down and confessing to crimes they didn't commit, just to stop the interrogations.
A disturbingly large number of people have confessed to crimes they never committed. Always have a lawyer with you when being questioned by the cops. Cops are very good at wearing people down and getting them to say what they want them to say.
> One does wonder how many got this treatment before DNA was around. <
Kind of a side point, but the Reader’s Digest had a disturbing article about DNA recently. The science has advanced so far that every a very small DNA sample can now be analyzed.
And that’s not always a good thing. In that article, a drunk guy was treated by paramedics. A very small amount of his DNA (flaking skin cells, I think) got on the paramedics.
Later, the paramedics responded to a murder. The drunk guy’s skin cell DNA accidentally got scattered on the victim by the paramedics.
The drunk guy was arrested for murder (he was later cleared by other evidence).
These boys taught is what “Wilding” is.
That poor woman was terribly hurt in the attack.
“the guy who later took responsibility knew of at least two details no one else but the cops knew”
Ah, but at least one of the original five suspects knew a detail of the crime that even the cops did not know at the time he stated it, so it would have been impossible for the police to “suggest” it to him as part of a false confession. I’m talking about the theft of the walkman from the victim. Police didn’t know about it, because at the time that the suspect related it, the victim was still in a coma and couldn’t have told the police that she had a walkman that was stolen.
> Always have a lawyer with you when being questioned by the cops. <
Even better: Do not talk to the police at all. A great video on that here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
A fascinating case anyway you look at it. Did the victim sustain permanent deficits from the vicious beating she was subjected to?
The most logical explanation in this case is that were involved in so many crimes that night, they confessed to one they didn’t commit because they thought the police were interrogating them about a different one.
In this case, they were found not guilty of the rape. That does not mean they were not guilty of the attack, which was one of a series of violent incidents that occurred in the park that night involving a group of youths. At least one confessed to the attack, and admitted to groping the victim, but not raping her.
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