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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case SuspectFR Thread Roundup
Free Republic ^ | August 16-20, 2006 | FReepers

Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66

For your bookmarking assistance, this is a reference list of links to the Aug 2006 or newer Free Republic threads on the topic of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case and the possible arrest of John Mark Karr as a suspect in her murder.


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To: Rte66

>>>His father, Wexford Karr, married Patricia Elaine Adcock on Aug. 21, 1958. He was 37 and she was 18, according to court documents. >>>

What source do you have for this? I didn't realize they were giving out her full name!


451 posted on 08/21/2006 6:33:18 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Rte66

>>>Now, the part about Wexford being a "well-to-do General Motors" executive doesn't quite ring true with what we have heard, either. I think he would've had enough money to send JMK to college, anyway. I'll get to more later - gotta go check around on some things!>>>

He was not an executive, but made good money with rental property.


452 posted on 08/21/2006 6:35:00 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar

>>>You have it exactly right. John is the middle son of Wexford, middle son of his mother.>>>

Pardon me, youngest son of his mother.


453 posted on 08/21/2006 6:41:14 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Renfield

I just saw this (your post 100 about the algae on the floor/boot). Is this a fact, or just another clue that was leaked that needs to be taken with a grain of salt?


454 posted on 08/21/2006 6:51:06 AM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Not sure if there are two or if the same is discussed twice. Haven't found the one mentioned on TV.


455 posted on 08/21/2006 7:26:46 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: All

Why cable news pursues the JonBenet Ramsey case
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0821/p03s01-ussc.html

While broadcast networks offer traditional journalistic fare, their cable rivals are now more like the Daily News than The New York Times.

NEW YORK – "SOLVED!'' read the Daily News headline. "BREAKING NEWS" flashed the MSNBC graphic: "JonBenet Ramsey Case Solved?"

Almost a decade after a flood of media speculation about the unsolved murder of the child beauty queen essentially convicted her parents in the court of public opinion, critics say they were at it again last week.

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456 posted on 08/21/2006 7:31:47 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Rte66

Are you still up?


457 posted on 08/21/2006 7:33:26 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

Up again


458 posted on 08/21/2006 7:58:54 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: sandbar

A long AJC article from 2-3 days ago


459 posted on 08/21/2006 8:00:49 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: onyx; stlnative; MizSterious; null and void; gridlock; hershey; hoosiermama; PilloryHillary; ...



ADDENDUM #1
Sun., 8/20/06 thru Mon., 8/21/06, 10AM CDT



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687284/posts
Karr treatment seen as 'brilliant move' (champagne in first class)
Yahoo ^ | 8/21/06

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687182/posts
False Confessions (The story of Karr and his confession in the Ramsey case is a strange one indeed)
The American Prowler ^ | 8/21/2006 | Jay D. Homnick

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687107/posts
Local handwriting expert says he believes Karr wrote ransom note
Jackson Daily Progress ^ | August 19, 2006 05:28 pm | Kelly Young

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687077/posts
Does enough evidence remain to ID Karr?
seatllepi.com ^ | 8.20.06 | DEBORAH HASTINGS

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687065/posts
Boulder as its own utopia: Town where JonBenet Ramsey died is tan, tall and smug
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Sunday, August 20, 2006 | Kimberly Dellaca-Badgett

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687036/posts
JonBenet suspect heads to U.S. in style
Yahoo News ^ | August 20.2006 | By JOCELYN GECKER

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686992/posts
Johnson: Karr may be crazy, but he's not the right man
Rocky Mountain News ^ | August 19, 2006 | Bill Johnson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686966/posts
CHAMPAGNE TOAST WITH COP ON LUXURY FLIGHT BACK TO STATES
http://www.drudgereport.com/ ^

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686931/posts
Karr said he identified with Michael Jackson
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | August 20, 2006 | New York Daily News


460 posted on 08/21/2006 8:02:09 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

They've ruled out every other person she came in contact with that night previous to being found murdered.

I'm just saying that's one more possible source of human DNA that hasn't been ruled out.


461 posted on 08/21/2006 8:18:52 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Thanks for the ping!


462 posted on 08/21/2006 8:22:23 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: bonfire

YW!


463 posted on 08/21/2006 8:26:00 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Here is an article and photo of Karr at the time of his divorce. Looks like he had already begun to loose weight.

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/news_in_brief/jonbenet_ramsey_060818.shtml


464 posted on 08/21/2006 8:28:02 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Rte66

>>>A long AJC article from 2-3 days ago>>>

Thanks, I found it.


465 posted on 08/21/2006 8:52:42 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: ableLight

"There are so many variations on these possibilities it will make your head spin."

That's the one thing that we all can agree on. It's so nuts! I'm afraid this case will never be solved.



466 posted on 08/21/2006 8:55:12 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Gondring

There is a previous Boulder DA on Fox who keeps saying that after the dust clears on Karr that the attention will focus on who leaked this to the police--Tracey. This DA can't say enought bad things about him. I've wondered about that. He made it sound like the current DA was not ready to pounce on Karr yet and this leak pretty much forced her hand.


467 posted on 08/21/2006 9:23:13 AM PDT by twigs
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To: hershey

If Karr's family can prove he couldn't have been in CO the night JBR was killed, then the case against him is over. The lack of DNA will hamper the case, but doesn't necessarily kill it. A handwriting analyst has said that he thinks Karr's handwriting matches the note that was found.

At first, I thought Karr was a celebrity seeker. Now I'm not so sure. I think he's a possibility, but I don't have a strong conviction either way. When I saw John Ramsey's nephew speaking on Fox, I personally thought he looked a lot like Karr. Very creepy. And I heard on Fox this morning that Karr has said he was at a party with his brother where John Ramsey was also in attendence. There must be some linkage there. Lots of rumors, no confirmations. But it is interesting. I hope they grab the perp. The real one.


468 posted on 08/21/2006 9:30:28 AM PDT by twigs
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To: twigs
Haven't heard the party with his brother story.

In 1990, Access Graphics was created...One company was Advanced Products Group of Roswell, Ga.

John's resume says he can build computers from the bottom up. Where did he get this skill?

Of course, his resume also mentions giving kids a bath and reading to them. (Michael Jackson Syndrome??)

469 posted on 08/21/2006 9:44:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

I had heard earlier that Karr's linkage to the Ramsey's was a suburb of Atlanta. I didn't know details. I also just heard that if the publicity keeps up that John Ramsey was going to leave the country. The parents always, always acted suspiciously to me. I don't think they had anything to do with her murder, but I've always wondered if they were covering up for someone they may have suspected had something to do with it. And now he's acting strangely again IMHO.


470 posted on 08/21/2006 9:49:56 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Rte66

Hey,
I just want to thank you for putting in the effort to consolidate all of these links. It makes it far easier to keep up.


471 posted on 08/21/2006 9:50:37 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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472 posted on 08/21/2006 9:54:15 AM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX)
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To: Sacajaweau

Have you seen the video clip of Karr with long hair that Fox keeps showing....very strange...


473 posted on 08/21/2006 9:58:31 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Rte66; hoosiermama; stlnative; maggief; bonfire; All

Good morning/afternoon. Thanks for your posts and pings, Rte and stl.

His extradition hearing scheduled for 8:30 tomorrow morning? If so, does that mean we can keep normal sleeping hours tonight...lol?



474 posted on 08/21/2006 9:59:54 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Rte66; stlnative

I prefer a hamberger over roast duck.


475 posted on 08/21/2006 10:02:59 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: mystery-ak

No, haven't seen that. What year?


476 posted on 08/21/2006 10:08:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Just saw it. The baby looks to be just a few months old.


477 posted on 08/21/2006 10:13:23 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama


I am watching FNC --- what have I missed?


478 posted on 08/21/2006 10:17:02 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I don't know the year but he's holding one of his sons who is a toddler....must be when they still lived in Ga...


479 posted on 08/21/2006 10:18:20 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: twigs

I still can't shake off the feeling that the Ramsey's know more than they've said -- though I don't think they did it.


480 posted on 08/21/2006 10:20:25 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: twigs
I had heard earlier that Karr's linkage to the Ramsey's was a suburb of Atlanta.

But what was the linkage *before* the murde?. He seems to be almost stalking the Ramseys *after* the murder but that's no proof he committed the crime - only that he's trying to involve himself after the fact.

The Ramseys moved to Colorado in 1991 when Jon Benet would have been no more than an infant. I can't imagine how even the twisted mind of John Karr could have "fallen in love" with JBR at that age in whatever context he means it.

So where did he get this obsession for JBR from which to inspire travel from Alabama to Boulder at Christmas, 1996 if he, indeed, committed the crime? It could only be through the child pageant scene or if her images were already circulating in the pedophile world. And why would he travel to Colorado without some assurance that he was going to see her?

IMO, this is the really weak link to his whole "confession". As yet, there's no evidence he was there and no motivation to travel 1,000 miles to see a little girl he could not have known personally.

481 posted on 08/21/2006 10:31:04 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: varina davis

JMO If he didn't do it, he has been in contact with the person who did. He may simple be the key that unlocks the door. As I said the other evening. He then becomes a hero, writes the last chapter of his book from that view point and becomes a millionare.........


482 posted on 08/21/2006 10:33:21 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Tall_Texan; Rte66; sandbar

Good questions. Do you two any any insights?


483 posted on 08/21/2006 10:37:37 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

>>>Good questions. Do you two any any insights?>>>

I don't know of any connections other just geographical.


484 posted on 08/21/2006 10:42:02 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: hoosiermama

I don't think the photo is from the time when he was divorce because the source of the photo is Royal Thailand Police. This photo was probably taken right after they picked him up last week.


485 posted on 08/21/2006 10:47:42 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Tall_Texan
But what was the linkage *before* the murder?

I don't know. I just heard somewhere that there was such a linkage. I've watched a fair amount of TV and radio about this, so I don't remember where I heard that. There's so many rumors flying out there that I don't even know it's true. But I did hear it. And it raised a red flag for me.

486 posted on 08/21/2006 11:04:16 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Tall_Texan

I've wondered too if Karr had an obsession for these child beauty pageants. My question all along has been how could he have known about this child. So I've listened to everything that has been on about how this could have happened.


487 posted on 08/21/2006 11:06:14 AM PDT by twigs
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To: varina davis

I don't think they did it either. But they have acted as though they know more than they've admitted. The only motive I can think of is to protect someone else they loved as much as JonBenet.


488 posted on 08/21/2006 11:08:02 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Tall_Texan
Patsy's sister lives in Roswell, Georgia.

When Ramsey created Access Graphics (1989), it was a merger of 3 companies. One of them, was Advanced Products Group of Roswell, Georgia.

On December 20, 1996, there was a big employee party at the Hotel Boulderado in Colorado. A dixieland jazz band made the rounds.

There is an article in THE DAILY CAMERA dated Dec, 21, 1996 by Tom Locke. The article almost looks like the background or a summary of the ransom note.

Was Sandrock from the Daily Camera?

Was Karr flown in as a babysitter for some old southern business folks?....or with the band?? Did the glitz tick him off? Did Ramsey become a target almost sporadically?...A "fat cat" with southern ties.

489 posted on 08/21/2006 11:09:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: sandbar

geographical. And both Ramsey and Karr had an interest in computer technology.


490 posted on 08/21/2006 11:09:29 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Tall_Texan

Could Patsy's sister who lives in Roswell put pics of JBR in the local paper everytime she won a beauty contest?


491 posted on 08/21/2006 11:13:17 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Sacajaweau
The article almost looks like the background or a summary of the ransom note.

Huh? What do you mean by that?

492 posted on 08/21/2006 11:15:23 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: hoosiermama

>>>geographical. And both Ramsey and Karr had an interest in computer technology.>>>

I think John's interest was purely pedophelic in nature though.


493 posted on 08/21/2006 11:18:10 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: mystery-ak

Did she and would the paper print it? Some of the local rags are desperate for anything they can publish. I doubt it would have made a dent in the AJC *unless* the pageant was local or if AJC was still in social contact with the Ramseys from their time in Atlanta.

The AJC is stored on microfilm so it can be researched. I don't know if they offer online archives but it would be interesting to do a word search on "JonBenet" *prior* to 12/25/96 to see if she is ever mentioned.


494 posted on 08/21/2006 11:22:42 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Tall_Texan
I don't want to quote from the article and get zapped but the first line is:

"A billion bucks. That's enough to make anybody celebrate."

There is a picture of John Ramsey leaning on a windowsill.

Then it mentions the dixieland band (Southern connection) and several connections and computer companies including Sun Microsystems in Calif..

There's just a lot in the article that tells a lot about John Ramsey......enough to write a note that says "I know a lot about you".

495 posted on 08/21/2006 11:24:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: LilyBean

I would like to read over at Jamison but she charges to post...so forget her.....I was on some interesting chats with her group though, in the past...


496 posted on 08/21/2006 11:26:29 AM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: Tall_Texan

I only ask because our local paper does it every Wed in the local section...people submit pics and stories about their relatives from all over the country....I just thought maybe Patsy's family did the same..


497 posted on 08/21/2006 11:26:56 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Sacajaweau; mystery-ak

I just saw the video of him with very long hair...the long hair was mainly in the back...sides and top were cut more masculine-like. He was singing and playing a guitar in the one I saw. I think there was also one of him where he was kind of clowning around. The one with the singing and guitar...maybe the other one, too, don't know...I believe they said the year was 1987.


498 posted on 08/21/2006 11:29:57 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: sandbar
I think the killing was directed at John....at the rich and powerful...people that "employ" Karr and give him a pittance of what they have.

John Ramsey's life would never be the same.

The bad part is: I'm now starting to think Karr is a serial killer.

499 posted on 08/21/2006 11:30:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: txrangerette

I just saw that too....they said it was his wedding video in 87?......there's another video they are showing where his wife is folding clothes and he has a baby in his arms...with the same long hair.


500 posted on 08/21/2006 11:33:36 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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