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Those nice Vikings did a lot for us - and it wasn’t all pillaging[UK]
Times Online ^ | 13 Mar 2008 | Ben Hoyle

Posted on 03/13/2009 10:24:11 AM PDT by BGHater

From the moment that they ransacked a remote priory at Lindisfarne in 793, the Vikings have had a bad press.

The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle’s entry for the year says that the raiders made “lamentable havoc in the church of God in Holy-island, by rapine and slaughter”, fixing the popular image of the Vikings for the next 1,200 years. New evidence suggests that many of the Norse invaders were in fact model immigrants.

Historians will try to redress the balance today at a conference at the University of Cambridge and show that the Vikings who settled in Britain and Ireland were technologically sophisticated, swapped ideas and often lived in relative harmony with Anglo-Saxons and Celts.

“The latest evidence does not point to a simple opposition between ‘Vikings’ and ‘natives’,” said Fiona Edmonds, of the Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic at the university. “Within a relatively short space of time — and with lasting effect — the various cultures in Britain and Ireland started to intermingle. Investigating that process provides us with a historical model of how political groups can be absorbed into complex societies, contributing much to those societies in the process. There are important lessons that can be gained from this about cultural assimilation in the modern era.”

The findings are based on new archaeological evidence, historical studies and analysis of the language, literature and coinage of the period. Together they illustrate how between the 9th and 13th centuries, the Vikings became an integral part of social and political life in Britain and Ireland and changed both countries more profoundly than is generally realised.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; assimilation; godsgravesglyphs; thevikings; uk; viking; vikings
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1 posted on 03/13/2009 10:24:12 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: SunkenCiv

model immigrants ping.


2 posted on 03/13/2009 10:24:33 AM PDT by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: BGHater
Well, I should hope! They did, after all, have a heavy influence on British cuisine.
3 posted on 03/13/2009 10:25:43 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: BGHater
New evidence suggests that many of the Norse invaders were in fact model immigrants.

Yeah, comparing them to Muslims the Vikings were model immigrants.

4 posted on 03/13/2009 10:26:07 AM PDT by MeganC (January 20, 2013)
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To: BGHater
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sometimes you can even drink beer with them
5 posted on 03/13/2009 10:27:22 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: BGHater
The Vikings were the victims of unethical travel agents.

Most of them just wanted to head South in the Spring for a break. How were they to know that there were no ATMS in the Isles and France?

Due to no ATMs and being left to their own devices by the unethical travel agents, they had to sack the monasteries to get the cash the non-existent ATMs couldn't supply. They are victims.

6 posted on 03/13/2009 10:29:06 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: BGHater

So what we are being told here is that illegal immigrants are kind, lovable and help our culture not hurt it. This is veiled political correctness. As a history teacher I always look at the underlying politics of any “new” outlook on currently historical beliefs. Accept the illegal immigrants and the legal ones trying to change your laws and culture. Its good for you. That’s the real message here.


7 posted on 03/13/2009 10:30:27 AM PDT by KungFuBrad (White Devil http://whitedevilredangel.mee.nu/)
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To: BGHater

My DNA indicates that I am a Dane (maybe a Viking?) who went to Ireland in ancient times and stayed. (R1b, DYS390-23)


8 posted on 03/13/2009 10:31:26 AM PDT by blam
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To: KungFuBrad

that should be (currently held historical beliefs)


9 posted on 03/13/2009 10:32:22 AM PDT by KungFuBrad (White Devil http://whitedevilredangel.mee.nu/)
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Without ‘illegal immigrants’ America wouldn't be what it is today.

Countries and history is nothing but conquest and destruction.

10 posted on 03/13/2009 10:33:26 AM PDT by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: BGHater

All those tall, round stone monastery structures in Co. Wicklow, with the entry door quite a ways off the ground and only accessible via ladder, where the monks would retreat when Vikings came a-pillaging, would tend to undermine this historical revisionism.


11 posted on 03/13/2009 10:35:12 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BGHater
"Countries and history is nothing but conquest and destruction rebirth ; literally.
12 posted on 03/13/2009 10:35:22 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: BGHater
the various cultures in Britain and Ireland started to intermingle

"intermingle" (verb, from Old Norse): to administer an ax in the back or a sword across the throat.

13 posted on 03/13/2009 10:35:51 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: BGHater

“Deliver us, O Lord, from the fury of the Norsemen.
They ravage our lands, they kill our women and children!”
8th Century English prayer.


14 posted on 03/13/2009 10:36:00 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunhem?), change America will die for.)
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To: blam

Same here. Distantly my haplogroup is IA1, which is called the Viking haplogroup. My most recent ancestors were Irish and English. Strange to contemplate that I may have berserkers in my lineage.


15 posted on 03/13/2009 10:37:03 AM PDT by behzinlea
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To: BGHater

Correct. They left many blond hairs and blue eyes on the British Isles...


16 posted on 03/13/2009 10:37:43 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: BGHater
Vikings who settled in Britain and Ireland were technologically sophisticated, swapped ideas and often lived in relative harmony with Anglo-Saxons and Celts.

As a Viking in large part, I can safely say that we swapped some excellent ideas for their women and valuables and lived in harmony with their relatives (read wives).

17 posted on 03/13/2009 10:42:13 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: BGHater

The Guizer Jarl is silhouetted as members of his Viking Squad walk around a long boat with burning torches during the annual Up Helly Aa Festival, in Lerwick, Shetland Islands on January 29th, 2008. Up Helly Aa celebrates the influence of the Scandinavian vikings in the Shetland Islands. (Carl de Souza/AFP/Getty Images) #


18 posted on 03/13/2009 10:43:15 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: BGHater

Just ransack a couple of villages and rape their women and suddenly you’re some terrible person.


19 posted on 03/13/2009 10:45:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: BGHater
(Reading note attached to back of shield) - "Rape and pillage, then burn..."
20 posted on 03/13/2009 10:46:40 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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