VIDEO: Man Sticks Up For His Constitutional Rights At An Internal Checkpoint In The U.S.

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[chevydude26]

****Not according to some on here. That is ok..wait till it lands on their doorstep...right now it’s on someone elses so what does it matter? Kind of how it went with the Nazi’s and the public in Germany wasn’t it?

THIS was an AMERICAN that was beat to the point of being taken to the E.R. and right now on Fox, they are discussing the disgrace of waterboarding criminals. WHAT the He**
is wrong with people??????????****

AMEN!

[MindBender26]

What a flaming a-hole.

Man does he have an ego problem!

[Tammy8]

Anyone that wants to pick a constitutional battle should first study the laws pertaining to what they are objecting to. The various objections to BP checkpoints and BPtraffic stops have been to court numerous times.

Are there bad apples in the BP- of course there are just as in all walks of life. This guy could be a poster boy for how not to act though so he is just the guy to bring out the worst in even the best BP officer. He does not have my support or sympathy unless he has further proof of what he claims happened.

[briarbey b]

Ill believe he has balls when i see him protest that way at a Federale or Mexican Army checkpoint, DEEP INSIDE MEXICO.
Or if thats too much for him, he can join the US Army. He only “took on” honorable decent cops, in front of a freeway full of cars, real brave.
*****
Honorable decent cops don’t do to a man what they did to him. WHY?? He is driving home from working late in San Diego..70 miles out of Yuma headed for Phoenix on interstate 8. 9:30-9:45
He is stopped...asked where he was coming from, where he was going, what does he do for a living, and they wanted to search the car.
BILL OF RIGHTS???
4th and 5th amendment??? No probable cause...no warrant...just DO what we say. AN AMERICAN..not a mexican...AN AMERICAN!!

He didn’t have to answer their questions about his personal life!! He had a right NOT TO answer those questions. They had no right to search his personal property without a warrant! He wasn’t speeding, he wasn’t drunk, he was driving home from work!!

YOU would have complied with whatever they wanted because you would not have had the balls to stand up for your “Bill of Rights” which is EXACTLY the same as his. WHEN does it become necessary to stand for our Constitution or our Bill of Rights??? WHAT has to happen before we finally do it!!
WHEN does a man get the ok and approval from the public to do that?

AND people wonder what is happening to our country.

WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN TO MAKE OUR RIGHTS WORTH STANDING UP FOR?
When does envoking our rights become right??? Give an inch and a mile will be taken, it already has been...many miles cause this one time is not important enough.

[SandwicheGuy]

I know a bit about the law and this guy is wrong on so many levels.

Well I agree with you, you know a bit about the law. I wish you knew more about the law before spouting off about which you know 'a bit about.' An American gets hassled by wanna' be Rambo's without any reason and you think that is Okey Dokey. Not in the America in which I grew up. Please rethink your position.

This guy stood up for the Constitution and he is wrong? So I am to believe that you won't stand up for the Constitution? Again, please rethink your position on this.

[SandwicheGuy]

remember how much time and resource he consumed by not opening his window and saying "good morning".

If you wife had not stopped innocent travelers in the first place maybe she could have more success with catching illegals. And why do does an American have to say 'Good Morning' when he is being hassled? Being stopped isn't like a dating bar now, is it? I mean you don't have to smile, right? Gal with a gun, stopping you to chat, and the guy has to LIKE it?

[squidward]

Here is a little example of how obsessed this guy really is. It’s obvious he goes around trying to antagonize the police.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cD2BCBaNaM&feature=channel

[ml/nj]

I remember the guy caught with explosives in his trunk by an alert INS agent coming in for the mellinium plot.

I believe that was at the border, the Canadian Border. This was inland. I don't even believe that once you show that you are a US Citizen (with a Passport) at a border crossing that the government has the right to search to search without probable cause or a warrant. Once you have established that you are a US Citizen, you are a US Citizen on US soil and all those nasty things Jefferson and the boys established come into play or they used to.

I don't know what the laws are about having to identify oneself to Federal Agents but I do know that these people frequently act under color of law. Since my father fled from a place where one could be asked for his "papers," to come to the United States, maybe I'm just more sensitive to gestapos than you are.

ML/NJ

[ml/nj]

This may be a shocker to you but when you ask someone to roll down their window and the occupant say Que? The USBP is doing the job you want them to do.

No, they are not.

I want them on the border with machine guns. I want them searching neighborhoods where illegals are known to congregate and question people there. Stopping people driving on our highways is not only un-American, it is insane.

ML/NJ

[Terabitten]

Why want reasonable cause to be seized and searched!!

Please read my post #7. OBP does have cause to search on those checkpoints, simply by their proximity to the border.

[Terabitten]

This was inland. I don't even believe that once you show that you are a US Citizen (with a Passport) at a border crossing that the government has the right to search to search without probable cause or a warrant.

The courts have stated NUMEROUS times that simple proximity to the border grants border officials (such as Customs & Border Protection Officers and Border Patrol Agents) probable cause to search.

Think about it. Out in the desert, there's a million places to cross the actual border, but there's only one road going north for several hundred miles. You set up a checkpoint fifty or sixty miles inland knowing that most of the illegals and dope smugglers aren't going to hike overland more than ten or twenty miles before they link up with their transportation north.

Now, 99% of the folks that come through just roll down their window, say "US Citizen" and they're on their merry way. Of the one percent that don't do that, 99% of them are either illegals or drug smugglers.

Now this gentleman comes through, whose sole purpose is to antagonize the OBP agents into a confrontation. He got exactly what he wanted.

Finally, I'd be wary of any "pastor" who wasn't familiar with 1 Peter 2:13-17 :

"Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men. Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God. Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king."

[ml/nj]

Think about it.

I have thought about it. You can tell me that the Courts have said that the Bill of Rights doesn't apply within 100 miles of the border. Maybe you are right, which would mean I am subject to whatever searches and seizures some bureaucrat wants to subject me to as it's only about 25 miles from me to the coast here. The courts have said lots of things. The government can compel the sale of property for the benefit of private businesses. It can restrict what sort of arms you can bear, and maybe whether you can bear them at all. It can subject you to multiple trials for the same supposed offense. It can prohibit your financial support of political candidates. I could go on.

And these inland checkpoints are absurd. The illegals obviously know where they are; and the government is obviously aware they do because they have posted "Wetbacks Crossing" signs at least north and south of the one I've driven through north of San Diego. If the border patrol really wants to deport illegals, have them send me some FReepMail and I'll get them to a place where more than 50% of the people are here illegally, and maybe they can stop harassing honest citizens at a place where they have less than a tenth of a percent chance of encountering someone here illegally. These checkpoints are just as stupid as subjecting my mother to a search when she gets on an airplane; and just as un-American.

You think about it.

ML/NJ

[pfflier]

She along with her coworkers were very successful catching illegals. Unfortunately, because of the political climate, (this was the Clintoon-Reno years) it was a catch and release program. Her analogy was "It was like shoveling water".

The checkpoint nearest our house is 0.3 miles from Mexico on I-8 and two agents have died there. One was run over by a rectal vent Mexican national drug dealer at the checkpoint and another drowned while trying to save a family in a car that ran into the All American Canal speeding around the checkpoint to avoid capture.

Unfortunately the guilty travelers are among the innocent travelers. You analogy to a law enforcement job to a dating bar sucks in it's frivolity.

[pfflier]

Stopping people driving on our highways is not only un-American, it is insane.

How do you think the illegals in Massachuttes, Minnesota and Wyoming get there?

[ml/nj]

How do you think the illegals in Massachuttes, Minnesota and Wyoming get there?

I would guess a lot more by bus than by private car. Yeah. Let's make everyone who wants to take a bus get prior approval from the gestapo. Let's set up internal checkpoints every ten miles or so on the interstates with checks to see that everyone's "papers" are in proper order so that those hiding in their Mercedes and Volvos can't fool us. I thought folks here were in favor of a free republic.

ML/NJ

[Terabitten]

You can tell me that the Courts have said that the Bill of Rights doesn't apply within 100 miles of the border.

Please do not put words in my mouth, my FRiend. I said no such thing. I said, quote, "The courts have stated NUMEROUS times that simple proximity to the border grants border officials (such as Customs & Border Protection Officers and Border Patrol Agents) probable cause to search."

I never stated that the Bill of Rights doesn't apply within 100 miles of the border. If we can't represent each other's positions honestly, there is no possibility of rational discussion.

[ml/nj]

Please do not put words in my mouth.

I guess I don't understand. You used the word “proximity.” Tell me what you mean. Tell me what your “numerous” decisions said. You say that this “proximity” whatever it is grants official “probable cause” which strikes me as abrogation of the fourth amendment which is part of the Bill of Rights. What am I missing?

ML/NJ

[dajeeps]

I don’t think that not submitting to arbitrary searches or questioning constitutes being a nut. We do have a right to be secure in our persons and property from “unreasonable” searches and to remain silent. They either have to have probable cause to believe he was committing a crime or a warrant. Probable cause does not mean suspition, or even any cause, but probability.

They do have the right to ask him for his ID, but did not do that until at least 3/4 of the way through the ordeal, which had degraded in civility, in large part by their inability to deal with the situation in a professional manner. They stopped him and didn’t tell him what they wanted. That’s all they had to do. You know, just checking things out, you look okay, see you later.

[pfflier]

Most get there by private vehicle. One absolutly stuffed with humanity. In our neck of the desert, far away from your nirvana, it is not uncommon to hear of 14 or 17 illegals spewing all over the road in a roll-over accident.

[ml/nj]

Most get there by private vehicle.

People on this thread seem to be having difficulty with language or logic or both. You asked, "How do you think the illegals in Massachusetts, Minnesota and Wyoming get there?" You didn't ask how they get to, or across, the border. Few are being driven from near the border to Massachusetts &c., in private vehicles. (Such rollovers as you describe just do not happen on the long drive north, do they?)

ML/NJ