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University of Florida: Epic carving on fossil bone found in Vero Beach
Vero Beach 32963 ^ | 04 June 2009 | SANDRA RAWLS

Posted on 06/04/2009 8:15:37 AM PDT by BGHater

In what a top Florida anthropologist is calling “the oldest, most spectacular and rare work of art in the Americas,” an amateur Vero Beach fossil hunter has found an ancient bone etched with a clear image of a walking mammoth or mastodon.

According to leading experts from the University of Florida, the remarkable find demonstrates with new and startling certainty that humans coexisted with prehistoric animals more than 12,000 years ago in this fossil- rich region of the state.

No similar carved figure has ever been authenticated in the United States, or anywhere in this hemisphere.

The brown, mineral-hardened bone bearing the unique carving is a foot-long fragment from a larger bone that belonged to an extinct “mammoth, mastodon or ground sloth” according to Dr. Richard C. Hulbert, a vertebrate paleontologist at the Florida Museum of Natural History museum. These animals have been extinct in Florida for at least 10,000 years.

Etched into the bone by a highly sharpened stone tool or the tooth of the animal is the clear image of a walking adult mammoth or mastodon. Extensive tests over the past two months have shown that the image was created when the bone was fresh, presumably right after the animal it belonged to was killed or died.

Experts who have examined the bone, found at a location which has not been publicly disclosed on the northern side of Vero Beach, concluded the carving and surface are of the same age – 12,000 to 14,000 years old — with no evidence of recent tampering (see accompanying story on tests that have been performed to date).

Dr. Barbara Purdy, professor emerita of Anthropology at the University of Florida, on May 19th told Vero Beach 32963 discovery of an image carved into a bone by a prehistoric human is unprecedented in North America, and she called the find by fossil hunter James Kennedy “the oldest, most spectacular, and rare work of art in the Americas.”

“Never before in the Western Hemisphere, has there been a bone from an extinct species incised with a recognizable picture of an animal,” Purdy went on. “It would be ancient evidence that people living in the Americas during the last Ice Age created artistic images of the animals they hunted.”

The four-inch etching of the elephant appears faintly but clearly on the surface of a fossil bone. The image, small yet showing the perspective of one rear leg in front of the other, a dangling trunk and a hint of a squinting eye, was apparently made by a prehistoric resident of south central Florida.

The eyes of specialists around the world are now focused on the bone and image as they subject it to every sort of analysis to determine authenticity and consider its origins.

Purdy, a curator emerita in archaeology at the Florida Museum of Natural History, has been overseeing the effort to painstakingly examine the carving. As results from over a dozen specialists accumulated, and her excitement and conviction of its authenticity increased, she prepared to release news of the find to the scientific community at large.

“I did everything in my power to show this thing was a fake. I was not going to stick my neck out on something this rare unless I was as sure as you can be in science.”

After sending out photos and detailed reports from University of Florida labs, Purdy’s email box was soon filled with reactions from her colleagues.

World renowned geochemist Thomas Stafford commended Purdy with eloquence on her efforts from his lab in Colorado.

“You have done true and intense due diligence in determining whether or not the object is ancient and therefore science is on your side,” he said in the email read by Purdy to Vero Beach 32963. “If later interpretations agree or disagree with your and others present opinions, it is just the wondrous process of science, by which we asymptotically approach truth. Sometimes this takes a few hours in the case of a mathematical proof; sometimes it takes centuries in the case of discerning evolution’s inner workings.”

In Britain, Dr. Paul G. Bahn, an archaeologist with a doctoral degree from the University of Cambridge, is a specialist in prehistoric art; he led the team that discovered the first Ice Age cave art in Britain in 2003 and 2004. Purdy included him in the loop of information on the Vero bone, and shared his reaction with Vero Beach 32963 as well.

It shows the requisite scientific skepticism of finds as rare as this, and at the same time, his optimism that an amazing discovery has indeed been made in Vero Beach. “When you see something like this, your first thought is that it must be a fake. But there has to be a first time, and this might be it.”

Dr. C Andrew Hemmings, an archaeologist at the University of Texas at Austin, is a specialist in the Paleoindian period of prehistory and in bone and ivory tools. He is especially interested in aspects of ancient Florida, and has worked at underwater sites in the Aculla River. He is currently working on an excavation off the west coast near Tampa, and took a break from his work to send his approbation.

“Andy was cute,” Purdy says. “He took all my reports and said, ‘This certainly looks like a perfectly good mammoth carving to me.’”

Meanwhile, Kennedy, the amateur finder of the fossil, is stunned at the significance of his almost chance discovery of the etching. An avid and longtime fossil hunter born and raised in Vero Beach, Kennedy found the bone as long ago as four years in a northern area of the city. He kept the bone fragment in a box at his home along with others he had found, still caked with soil in places, awaiting closer inspection.

One day in February, he closely examined the bone, wiping fine dirt from the thick fragment. As he cleaned it carefully under the bright light of a work table lamp, suddenly he saw a distinctive shape carved into the smooth, curved side of the dark surface. Like a face arising suddenly from a visual puzzle, the appearance of the animal image took him by surprise.

The clear outline of a striding elephant with large tusks appeared beneath the bright light. He knew he had something important in his hands. Here was something more than man and mammoth together, but a personal expression, a work of art or perhaps a religious presentation from a lost and distant world thousands of years in the past.

“I knew this was the coolest thing I had ever found,” says Kennedy. “I was holding something somebody made thousands of years ago.”

Kennedy immediately called an old friend, Vero attorney Gene Roddenberry. A member of the Historical Society, Roddenberry had helped James with other finds the younger man had made over the years. A large mammoth tooth he found in the main canal as a teenager was donated to the city museum, and other large bones had been donated to the University of Florida.

Both men knew the carving needed to go quickly to Gainesville, the state university system being the base of leading experts in prehistoric Florida.

Right away, scientists wondered at so rare a find: Could the image have been carved more recently into the rock-hard surface of the bone that is at least 10,000 years old? Could an indigenous Floridian from even the last millennium have chiseled an image of a creature that disappeared with the Ice Age?

The image looked old and worn and seemed similar to European cave paintings and to artifacts found far from the Americas, but was it authentic?

The bone, currently housed in a vault locally, first went to Barbara Purdy in early April. Even specialists can be fooled, but to her eyes, it looked quite real. “The thing that struck me at the beginning was, unlike forgeries generally, the image is not deep,” Purdy says. “It could easily be missed. It looked naturally worn, the way a coin does that has been handled a great deal, the image beginning to fade.”

Dr. Michael Warren, forensic anthropologist and director of the C.A. Pound Human Identification Laboratory at the University of Florida, has studied the incisions that form the image and the surface of the bone, and has found both to be “ancient.”

In May, Dr. Kevin Jones, the chairperson of the Material Science and Engineering Department at the University of Florida, as well as two other scientists working with him there, also examined the carving.

Using a method called energy dispersive X-Ray spectroscopy and a scanning electron microscope, they were able to study the object in tremendous detail. All three scientists concluded that both the carving and the bone’s surface were the same age, with no evidence of recent tampering.

Around the country and abroad, Purdy sought out experts in Upper Paleolithic art, Late Pleistocene geology, paleontology and Paleoamerican archeology. She asked them to examine photographs and an electron microscope picture of the bone and carved image. None so far has voiced a reason to doubt the object’s authenticity, although tests and examinations continue.

One test, a rare earth element analysis, is expected to be concluded this week to determine where in Florida’s geological strata or layers the bone was originally located. This powerful new method utilizes the process of fossilization itself.

When bones become fossilized, calcium is slowly replaced by minerals including rare earth elements like scandium and cerium. Bone takes up these rare earth elements, or REEs, in direct proportion to the amount present in the particular strata of earth where the bone was originally located.

This gives the bone a unique REE signature that confirms the earth layer where a bone originally lay and gives an idea of its age. Scientists can then compare the results to those of others fossil bones found in similar settings in Vero Beach.

The discovery of the etching brings a vivid clarity to the idea that early humans lived in our county among the extinct animals of Florida’s Pleistocene epoch.

The Pleistocene spanned from 1.8 million to about 10,000 years ago. Many types of trees, mosses, insects, mollusks, flowering plants, birds, and mammals survive today from the last years of that era.

The Pleistocene was also characterized by large land mammals. Mammoths and their cousins the mastodons, as well as bison, llamas, saber-toothed cats, giant ground sloths, and other large animals, roamed the then-drier landscapes of Florida.

Native horses and camels galloped across Florida grasslands that resembled today’s African savannahs. They disappeared at the end of the last Ice Age with the advent of a wetter climate. Shorelines retreated to what they are today as water held in ice returned to the seas.

No one knows when the first people arrived in Florida, or how many waves of such people may have lived here as climate and geography went through tremendous changes.

The first inhabitants of North America were small groups of nomadic huntergatherers; few signs of their existence have been found. Most linguists and physical anthropologists believe these people originally came primarily from Siberia. Moving eastward across the wide Bering land bridge known as Beringia, they may have arrived in North America as much as 30,000 years ago or even before.

The earliest people’s remains and artifacts are rare amid the more abundant evidence of those who lived much later. In Florida, rapid commercial development has sometimes led to disruption or even destruction of fossil sites. When professionals are called in, sometimes they must work in haste as projects want to push forward.

Despite that, a wealth of spearheads, knives, blades, scrapers and other tools made of stone, as well as tools made of ivory or the bones of extinct animals have been found throughout the United States and from Florida. Yet, nothing like the carved mammoth image has ever been found. Such evidence of artistic representation is known from the caves of Europe and the steppes of Asia, but not North America.

This is hardly the first time an important fossil find has occurred here. Amateur fossil hunters other than James Kennedy have found the bones of large Pleistocene mammals at various locations around the county.

The unique characteristics of Florida’s geology account for this improbable sounding reality. The peninsula is formed entirely of sedimentary rock lying upon a foundation of thick limestone. The limestone was laid down when the state was covered by shallow seas between 65 and 20 million years ago.

There are no dinosaur fossils in Florida, but plentiful mammals are often discovered in old streambeds and sinkholes. Fresh water was more scarce during the Pleistocene than today, and animals and people flocked to sources of the precious liquid. These circumstances mean that mammal fossils are not generally encased in rock or found deep below the surface as they can be elsewhere.

Vero Beach is already one of the best known and most discussed fossil sites in Florida, producing two fossilized partial skeletons, the older of which became known as Vero Man.

Isaac M. Weills and Frank Ayers found the fossil human bones here nearly 100 years ago where the Indian River Farms Company was constructing a drainage canal that intersected the old streambed of Van Valkenburg Creek.

The site is near U.S. One and the new county administration complex. A great number of extinct mammal bones were also found along the old creek-bed, including the first find of a sub-species of North American tapir that would be named after its location: Tapirous veroensus.

Years of contention about the age and nature of the partial sets of human bones followed.

Although the anthropologists and paleontologists who study the Pleistocene have long agreed about the co-mingling of early human groups and extinct mammals in Florida, questions lingered over the old local finds.

Back in 1915 some scientists questioned whether the bones of Vero Man were carried into deposits older than the bones actually were, by accidental mixing of ground layers or other means. Skull measurement techniques, since discredited, were used by one scientist to estimate the age of the bones, and contradict a Florida geologist who said Vero Man was much older, a premise now widely held.

The bones and skull were dated at the time by acclaimed state geologist Elias Sellards as being at least 10,000 years old. The bones’ antiquity was questioned by Ales Hrdicka of the Smithsonian Institution who believed they were much younger. He asserted the heavily mineralized human bones, clearly fossils, were of recent origin. His view was the fossilization had happened quickly and humans never lived here in the Pleistocene.

Over the next 30 years the bones and skull were housed by numerous persons and institutions. There was even some evidence the bones had actually belonged to a woman and not a man. The skull was cast in cement, damaged, and then disappeared. Femurs and the other remaining bones today are scattered at different state institutions and at the Smithsonian in Washington D.C.

Although Sellard’s assessment is now generally accepted, there are still those who have questioned the presence of man living here with the great mammals long gone. James Kennedy’s discovery appears to offer unequivocal evidence that human beings lived in our area during the Pleistocene, and that Sellards analysis was likely correct.

Barbara Purdy has spent years studying and analyzing the earliest Floridians and the evidence they left behind. Her most recent book, “Florida’s People during the last Ice Age,” released last year, offers an overview of the last 100 years of research into Florida’s earliest people.Fossil sites and finds in Vero Beach and Melbourne are among the many she describes in detail.

Purdy would like to see a new, more complete excavation of the old Vero site that has continued to yield fossil animal bones and human artifacts like spear points. She calls for a new “well-designed project incorporating the expertise of individuals from various disciplines using 21st century techniques.” She estimates a thorough scientifically executed excavation would cost around $150,000.

“What we need down there requires going down eight feet or more into the deposits,” she says. “All material needs to be screened with fine mesh. It all needs to be carefully done, not contract archeology, but a painstaking University-type project.”

The question of pre-historic man living here during the late Pleistocene now may be resolved, but scientists wonder what other finds might be discovered. The famous site of Vero Man, where human fossils were first found, will likely be disrupted this year due to expansion of the Vero Beach water plant. Other scientists interested in the age of bones and the surrounding sediments found there plan to begin work in June. Any excavation will be the last opportunity to properly examine the site before the water plant project.

Sometimes people do find the thing that dreams are made of. For Barbara Purdy and James Kennedy, the image under the light in February revealed a once in a lifetime discovery. The elephant carving will bring new interest in the geology and fossil beds of Indian River County. Hopefully the bone will find a permanent home at the Natural History Museum of the University of Florida.

This extraordinary and rare piece of human history will put Vero Beach in textbooks for years to come. Stories will be written and more extensive explorations will certainly follow. Barbara Purdy dedicated her recent book to Elias Sellards whom she calls “a visionary.”

Today, with amateurs and pros looking at an old bone and an ancient hand’s depiction of an awesome beast, he would certainly be smiling.


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: carving; florida; godsgravesglyphs; mammoth; pleistocene; science; verobeach; veroman
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1 posted on 06/04/2009 8:15:38 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: SunkenCiv

Carving ping.


2 posted on 06/04/2009 8:16:28 AM PDT by BGHater (It's easy to be a Conservative now.)
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To: BGHater

Go Gators!


3 posted on 06/04/2009 8:17:33 AM PDT by dfwgator (USM is Gator Bait! (Congrats to U-Dub!))
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To: SunkenCiv

According to leading experts from the University of Florida, the remarkable find demonstrates with new and startling certainty that humans coexisted with prehistoric animals more than 12,000 years ago in this fossil- rich region of the state.

4 posted on 06/04/2009 8:18:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (June 4, 2009 - the day Barack Obama threw all of America under the bus.)
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To: BGHater

cool..


5 posted on 06/04/2009 8:19:11 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Revolting cat!

Scientists are puzzled if this was an advertisement for a circus coming to town or a then new mastadon broiler restaurant chain...

6 posted on 06/04/2009 8:19:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (June 4, 2009 - the day Barack Obama threw all of America under the bus.)
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To: BGHater

Very cool. BTTT!


7 posted on 06/04/2009 8:20:44 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: a fool in paradise

I dunno. It kinda looks like a flea...


8 posted on 06/04/2009 8:24:15 AM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: BGHater

Amazing find.


9 posted on 06/04/2009 8:39:31 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: a fool in paradise
Nope.

Don't Believe it

6K, that's the limit.

Gotta be EVEEEIL Evo prank.

10 posted on 06/04/2009 8:41:48 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: BGHater

They were Bama fans. Awesome.


11 posted on 06/04/2009 8:43:49 AM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: BGHater

12 posted on 06/04/2009 8:47:04 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (I asked my broker what he's buying today. He replied: "Canned food and ammunition.")
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To: BGHater

Probably moved there from New York......


13 posted on 06/04/2009 8:52:47 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: BGHater

It looks too accurate, like it was drawn by a 20th century artist rather than a stone age artist.


14 posted on 06/04/2009 8:57:57 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: BGHater

15 posted on 06/04/2009 9:02:36 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: BGHater

Mastodon art ping.


16 posted on 06/04/2009 9:04:43 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: BGHater; a fool in paradise; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; ...

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17 posted on 06/04/2009 9:07:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: JoeProBono

Moog did it first. ;’)


18 posted on 06/04/2009 9:11:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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19 posted on 06/04/2009 9:24:40 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: BGHater

Wow..


20 posted on 06/04/2009 9:41:09 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: JoeProBono

I think I read that in my ancient history class...


21 posted on 06/04/2009 10:06:07 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (June 4, 2009 - the day Barack Obama threw all of America under the bus.)
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To: SunkenCiv
May be these people:

Bye, Bye Beringia (8,000 Year Old Site In Florida)


22 posted on 06/04/2009 10:41:07 AM PDT by blam
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To: BGHater

Neat !


23 posted on 06/04/2009 11:59:09 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: blam

Wow, fossils discoverd Florida thousands of years ago. Nowadays they come down from New Jersey, and New York after retiring...
LOL


24 posted on 06/04/2009 12:11:57 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: blam

More proof Europeans discovered America, not “Indians.”


25 posted on 06/04/2009 1:13:05 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Crawdad
They were Bama fans. Awesome.

Ok, even I got a chuckle out of that.

26 posted on 06/04/2009 1:15:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (USM is Gator Bait! (Congrats to U-Dub!))
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To: BGHater; SunkenCiv

I think we need to thank God that this article wasn’t about an epic carving on a mammoth bone on South Beach.

One cana’t be too careful about your reading material these days, Although I suppose the monitors would have suppressed it.

This also brings up the subject of why there are so many mammoth articles about mammoths these days. I’ve been a lonely prophet, pointing this phenomenon out to Sunkn Civ for lo these many months. Doesn’t anyone have any concern about a mammoth plot?


27 posted on 06/04/2009 2:22:42 PM PDT by wildbill ( The reason you're so jealous is that the voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill
I did a search on 'Mammoth Plot' and found this:

Mammoth, Plot,For Sale,1171956,USA,Arizona,Mammoth

28 posted on 06/04/2009 3:25:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Go ahead. Make fun of me. But when there are thousands of cloned mammoths runnin up and down the countryside, destroying crops and wind farms and ethanol plants and you wind up walking to work from your dark house, you’ll wish you had listened to me.

By the way, I’m glad to see ya back posting again. Missed your inquiring mind and expertise.


29 posted on 06/04/2009 3:33:38 PM PDT by wildbill ( The reason you're so jealous is that the voices talk only to me.)
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To: dfwgator
They were Bama fans. Awesome.

Ok, even I got a chuckle out of that.

Given the age of the item, I think the artist may have been Bear Bryant.

30 posted on 06/04/2009 3:37:58 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 ("What's in YOUR wallet? MY MONEY!")
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To: wildbill

Thanks. I’m in/out, not consistent.


31 posted on 06/04/2009 6:02:29 PM PDT by blam
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To: Kevmo

“It looks too accurate, like it was drawn by a 20th century artist rather than a stone age artist.”

I’d like to see what ancient and prehistoric art experts have to say on this.

A 12-14,000 year old carving rendered in full 3-D depth perspective, almost perfectly proportioned?

Interesting. Maybe if they dig around that area some more they’ll find a large black monolith.


32 posted on 06/04/2009 11:03:43 PM PDT by wolficatZ (Turning on the TV is the first mistake.)
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To: blam

I always have used FR for surfin a wide range of political articles. But lately I’m so down about the political situation I find myself skipping a lot of those articles I used to read so avidly and just reading the archeological and historical stuff.

If it wasn’t for the GGG stuff, I’d be in and out myself. It helps me keep my sense of humor as well as interest.


33 posted on 06/05/2009 5:57:07 AM PDT by wildbill ( The reason you're so jealous is that the voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill

Ivory upset about it.


34 posted on 06/05/2009 9:53:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: wildbill
I always have used FR for surfin a wide range of political articles. But lately I’m so down about the political situation I find myself skipping a lot of those articles I used to read so avidly and just reading the archaeological and historical stuff. If it wasn’t for the GGG stuff, I’d be in and out myself. It helps me keep my sense of humor as well as interest.

I feel the same. The political news is so depressing. Either Zero is here announcing another dumb program or he's traveling the world apologizing.

But GGG always has some fresh, interesting and thought provoking stuff.

35 posted on 06/05/2009 12:16:26 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: GodGunsGuts

Interesting article from yesterday.


36 posted on 06/05/2009 1:35:00 PM PDT by Fichori
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To: a fool in paradise

I can tell you that is not the case, I happen to know that for a fact.I joined this site just because I wanted to tell you that. Here is a bit of info for you also, The reason I know that fact is because I found it.


37 posted on 06/11/2009 3:16:58 PM PDT by mr digger
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To: a fool in paradise
Scientists are puzzled if this was an advertisement for a circus coming to town or a then new mastadon broiler restaurant chain...

The grand opening of a General Mastodon Dealership.

38 posted on 06/11/2009 3:21:11 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: mr digger

Congratulations on your discovery. And I mean that. And welcome.

Around these parts we mix a bit of levity with debate and discussion. Nothing mean spirited was meant by the comment and I was not among those questioning the authenticity, just the meaning of the artifact.


39 posted on 06/12/2009 8:56:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: mr digger; SunkenCiv

You may be interested in having SunkenCiv add you to his archeological threads PING list.


40 posted on 06/12/2009 8:57:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: BGHater
The image, small yet showing the perspective of one rear leg in front of the other, a dangling trunk and a hint of a squinting eye, was apparently made by a prehistoric resident of south central Florida.

who accidently voted for prehistoric Buchanan when he intended to vote for preshistoric Gore.

41 posted on 06/12/2009 9:02:33 AM PDT by dead
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To: BGHater

Nice post. Thanks.


42 posted on 06/12/2009 9:05:34 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Any 'jokes' about raping my 14-year-old are despicable." - Todd Palin)
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To: OB1kNOb

I clicked on this thread because I knew Helen’s picture would appear. Thanks for not making me disappointed.

ROTFL!


43 posted on 06/12/2009 9:09:41 AM PDT by dforest (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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To: mr digger

Welcome to FR. Nice find. Keep us posted of any updates on the continuing research on this fossil.


44 posted on 06/12/2009 9:42:23 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Thanks a fool in paradise.


45 posted on 06/12/2009 3:47:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: mr digger

Welcome to FR!


46 posted on 06/12/2009 3:47:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: BGHater

additional:

Decorated bone found in Florida may be from 13,000 years ago
Submitted by SHNS on Tue, 07/07/2009 - 13:30.
By ELLIOTT JONES, Scripps Howard News Service
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/44395


47 posted on 07/08/2009 5:55:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: wolficatZ
I've always suspected the cave paintings in France were a fake. Way too 1950s modern to be real...
48 posted on 11/05/2009 7:05:35 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: a fool in paradise

New to forum, was researching info from earth in upheaval by immanuel velikovsky (copyrighted 1955) have you heard of or read his books?


49 posted on 12/17/2009 5:04:12 PM PST by pfdr101
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To: pfdr101

No, sorry, I have some interest in archeological events but do not do much reading on it (more on art history and biographies).


50 posted on 12/18/2009 8:04:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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