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Crofter finds a 'Viking' anchor on the Isle of Skye
BBC ^ | Thursday, December 3, 2009 | unattributed

Posted on 12/07/2009 7:08:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Crofter finds a Viking anchor on the Isle of Skye A crofter... Graeme Mackenzie, 47, made the find after hiring an excavator to open the drain on rough pastureland 50yds (48m) from his home near Sleat. Rain had partly washed away the bottom of the drain and exposed a corroded 4in (10cm) iron spike. Mr Mackenzie levered it out and was "stunned" as the ancient anchor gradually emerged. The Treasure Trove Unit at the National Museums of Scotland said the anchor will probably be claimed by the Crown. Measuring 4ft high and a similar distance from tip to tip, the artefact is undergoing dating and metallurgical testing. Preliminary results showed it is at least of medieval, possibly Viking, origin and could be about 1,000 years old. If proved to be Viking, the find would be further evidence that many Norse raiders never returned to their native land, choosing instead to settle on Skye and many other places along Scotland's northwestern seaboard.

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1 posted on 12/07/2009 7:08:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 12/07/2009 7:10:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

How can the crown claim this item?


3 posted on 12/07/2009 7:12:53 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: SunkenCiv

For some .. The Skye’s the limit.

Go Vikes


4 posted on 12/07/2009 7:14:12 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: SunkenCiv
" If proved to be Viking, the find would be further evidence that many Norse raiders never returned to their native land, choosing instead to settle on Skye and many other places along Scotland's northwestern seaboard. "

There's no question about that, the DNA proves it.

5 posted on 12/07/2009 7:18:35 PM PST by blam
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To: NormsRevenge
"Go Vikes"

Roll Tide.

6 posted on 12/07/2009 7:19:20 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
Loch Duich

7 posted on 12/07/2009 7:23:38 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: guitarplayer1953
How can the crown claim this item?

Simple answer? Because it's the Crown.

The complicated answer is that the Crown claims the item, and pays compensation to the finder and landowner (I'm not up on the current state of UK law).

8 posted on 12/07/2009 7:25:08 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
It would seem that if it is a Viking artifact and it was found in northern Scotland would it not belong to some other country? And how can they place a value on it?
9 posted on 12/07/2009 7:27:25 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Well (not trying to be a smartass about it), if someone else can claim title to the anchor, then it’s up to a court to decide if the title and claim are valid.


10 posted on 12/07/2009 7:29:44 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: SunkenCiv
I'll be stuned with a beeber on this one ~ sure doesn't belong to the Crown. Ever so great Granduncle Tavish McAlexander stole that long boat fair and square from Nelson Longtooth!

That anchor is mine!

11 posted on 12/07/2009 7:30:51 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: guitarplayer1953
It would seem that if it is a Viking artifact and it was found in northern Scotland would it not belong to some other country? And how can they place a value on it?

Scotland is part of the United Kingdom.

12 posted on 12/07/2009 7:38:13 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Was it in 1009?


13 posted on 12/07/2009 7:41:23 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Was it found in 1009?


14 posted on 12/07/2009 7:45:49 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: guitarplayer1953

I understood it to mean he found something of value and he’ll have it taken from him.


15 posted on 12/07/2009 7:46:22 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: guitarplayer1953
"How can the crown claim this item?"

Because the Crown has the guns.

16 posted on 12/07/2009 8:07:37 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: SunkenCiv

a) what’s a crofter?

b) how does the anchor prove vikings settled in Skye vs some viking lost his anchor?


17 posted on 12/07/2009 8:24:37 PM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
It said that it was 1000 years old so that would make it in the early 10th century would it not?
18 posted on 12/07/2009 8:29:43 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: SunkenCiv

All the discussion about the Crown aside, I would like to point out that by many people’s reckoning, the Isle of Skye is the most beautiful spot in Scotland. It’s certainly one of my favorite spots and I would tend to agree with the assessment- although I have a soft spot for Wester Ross (area just south of Ullapool) as well.

If you ever visit Scotland, don’t just go to Edinburgh and Ft William. Definitely, definitely drive over to Skye and check it out. Stay a night or two. Drive all the way round the island. It’s worth it.


19 posted on 12/07/2009 8:32:45 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son

The walk to Loch Corruisk is worth is as well (as long as you’re there)


20 posted on 12/07/2009 8:33:28 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: guitarplayer1953

I was thinking early 11th century.


21 posted on 12/07/2009 9:00:34 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: SMCC1
Still it was 1009 yes the 11th century was Scotland part of the UK then?
22 posted on 12/07/2009 9:17:51 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: guitarplayer1953

According to wikipedia, “The Kingdom of Scotland was an independent sovereign state before 1 May 1707 when it entered into a political union with the Kingdom of England to create the United Kingdom of Great Britain.”

For some reason I thought it was earlier than that but guess not.


23 posted on 12/07/2009 9:30:02 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: SMCC1
I was going to say when was Braveheart suppose to of happened?
24 posted on 12/07/2009 9:33:57 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: guitarplayer1953

13th century so the anchor predates both those events and the creation of the UK. Pretty cool.


25 posted on 12/07/2009 9:44:24 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m adding this to my bookmarks!


26 posted on 12/07/2009 10:03:55 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: lack-of-trust
A crofter was those people who lived off the land. Many of them were cleared in that area by Mrs MacDonald.

The descendants of Summerled MacSorley have had their DNA tested. It shows a clear line from the Norse.

27 posted on 12/07/2009 11:05:17 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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28 posted on 12/08/2009 9:32:56 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: MSF BU

> I understood it to mean he found something of value and he’ll have it taken from him.

The mere act of “finding” something does not automatically make it yours.

If you were to “find” my wallet in the street, and you were to decide to keep it instead of trying to return it to me, you could be had up on charges of “Theft by Finding”.

Similar concept here: the anchor does not necessarily belong to the “finder” thereof.


29 posted on 12/08/2009 10:13:46 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Prodigal Son

Does Skye have a distillery?


30 posted on 12/08/2009 11:06:44 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: guitarplayer1953; SMCC1
The English King Edward I conquered Scotland and was Braveheart's great nemisis. Edward's son was not the King or soldier Edward was and lost the Battle of Bannockburn to Edward the Bruce. Scotland was thereafter independent.

The crowns were united when Elizabeth died without an heir and the Scottish King James VI became King James I of England. The countries were technically separate, however, until the Acts of Union of 1707, after which the "Union Jack" became the flag of the United Kingdom.

31 posted on 12/08/2009 12:11:41 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: SunkenCiv

They found a Viking burial plot in my front pasture on the Isle of Man. I didn’t think there ever any question the Vikings stayed.


32 posted on 12/08/2009 12:13:41 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Prodigal Son; SunkenCiv

And definitely make your way up to Oban and taste the Scottish whiskey. Try some of the Islay malts, too. mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm! I loooove those smoky malts. Hubby prefers the Highland or Lowland single malts, but I love the Islays.


33 posted on 12/08/2009 12:33:19 PM PST by TheOldLady (No more global baloneyism!! -- Jim Thompson!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Ah, then it must ‘belong’ to the viking who lost it? Certainly it doesn’t belong to the government.


34 posted on 12/08/2009 12:48:51 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: lack-of-trust
b) how does the anchor prove vikings settled in Skye vs some viking lost his anchor?

I wondered that, myself. Very weak reasoning behind that statement, irrespective of the real facts.

35 posted on 12/08/2009 1:25:46 PM PST by Tax-chick (Here I come, with a sharp knife and a clear conscience!)
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To: DuncanWaring
“Does Skye have a distillery?”

One of the best - Talisker.

http://www.scotchwhisky.net/malt/talisker.htm

36 posted on 12/08/2009 8:05:59 PM PST by decal (The Key To Flexibility is Indecision)
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To: TheOldLady

Not my thing, but I would like to visit Scotland, yet.


37 posted on 12/08/2009 8:08:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Deb

Wow, thanks! Interesting!


38 posted on 12/08/2009 8:08:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: rdl6989

Excellent.


39 posted on 12/08/2009 8:09:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: NormsRevenge

Uh-boy... I wonder if they’ve got what it’s going to take, the NFL has a bigger than usual divergence in team quality this year.


40 posted on 12/08/2009 8:10:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Hey, don’t make me dig that stone out of your house foundation and build it into a chair. ;’)


41 posted on 12/08/2009 8:11:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
would it be a chair or a thrown? Like the one I set on every morning.
42 posted on 12/08/2009 8:16:35 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: MSF BU

> Ah, then it must ‘belong’ to the viking who lost it? Certainly it doesn’t belong to the government.

No, it doesn’t belong to “the government”. It belongs to “The Crown”, which is something entirely different.

The closest thing you Yanks have to “The Crown” is “We the People...”

(The Crown is not the Queen)


43 posted on 12/09/2009 12:57:36 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well, there are plenty of other reasons to go to Scotland. Ullapool is a lovely place, and we did get a really, really nice hotel room in Oban. The tourist traps are interesting as well, and the scenery and weather (and we went in November) make it God’s country for sure.

We started at Hadrian’s wall in the east and went north along the coast and around past John O’Groats and Dunnet’s Head, then back to the wall in the west. It took us two weeks, and we went to our favorite distilleries and hiked every trail we could find. It was great.


44 posted on 12/09/2009 6:31:24 AM PST by TheOldLady (No more global baloneyism!! -- Jim Thompson!)
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