Skip to comments.Methane Extinctions - Could this Explain the Carolina Bays?
Posted on 06/07/2010 12:44:05 PM PDT by Errant
Jun 2010 - The Permian-Triassic Extinction Event, the largest extinction in history, could have been caused by huge, worldwide methane explosions, says Dr. Gregory Ryskin, Professor of Chemical Engineering at Northwestern University
Could such explosions have created the Carolina Bays? (More than two million huge holes were gouged into the ground about 12,000 years ago at the Gothenburg magnetic reversal. Some of the holes - which are still there - are bigger than nearby cities. Those holes are now collectively known as the Carolina Bays.)
During the Great Permian Extinction, when up to 95% of all species went extinct, Dr. Ryskin proposes that huge - and I mean huge - methane bubbles rose out of the ocean creating methane-bearing water clouds.
CO2 is twice as heavy as air, says professor George Kling, a biogeochemist at the University of Michigan. The clouds therefore wouldn't have risen very high. (You can make methane from CO2.)
These prehistoric methane-bearing clouds then circled the entire earth in a layer as much as 50 meters thick, ready to ignite as soon as they met any random spark.
This would have provided "an incredible explosive force 10,000 times greater than the entire nuclear stockpile available at this time," says Ryskin.
When I first watched this video, it was tantalizing to think that methane explosions such as these could have blasted those millions of holes into the ground that we now call the Carolina Bays.
However, I'm still not convinced. I'll stick with my theory that the holes were blasted into the ground as a result of the Gothenburg magnetic reversal.
Besides, methane explosions wouldn't explain why all of the bays are elliptical.
Just as an aside,if CO2 is twice as heavy as air, then how in the world does it float around up there high in the sky, creating "global warming?"
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So the dinosaurs became extinct because they lit their farts? Who knew.
But methane is not. It is lighter than air and an accumulation of it in a cloud would be far above the surface.
Interesting to consider. Seems like lightening would occur somewhere before there was enough built up to cause the kind of event described.
I don’t know if Methane cause the Carolina Bays, but I have seen a causal relationship between methane and skid marks.
It is however much easier to make CO2 from methane (CH4)
An exothermic reaction which cooks a great deal of food in this country every day.
CH4 + 2(O2) = CO2 + 2(H2O)
Making Methane from CO2 would be an endothermic reaction and therefore unlikely in nature.
Couldn't possibly have been caused by huge rocks hitting the surface from an angled flight path???
Methane MW (molecular weight) 16
Air avg MW 29
Carbon Dioxide MW 44
Under standard conditions (1 atm, ~20 Celsius), ideal gas rules are good approximation so 1 mole volume (22.3 liters) weighs the molecular weight in grams.
What probably gave him the idea is that there are enormous methane ice fields under some of the northern latitude sea beds, that are believed to erupt under some circumstances, blowing vast amounts of methane into the atmosphere.
However, as enormous as these can be, they don’t seem to have the same character as the Carolina bays.
Do people get paid to be so dumb?
Those formations are the result of prevailing winds and freeze thaw cycles in permafrost lowlands.
Just check out the northern coast of Alaska.
The above theory courtesy Google maps, and FIVE MINUTES OF REFLECTION.
Looks like a fishing expedition for stimulus money to me.
If that theory had drawn a bigger grant, that would be the story.
I won’t pick it apart.
I’ll just say that many things in the article just make no sense.
Can you say “meteor shower” ?
Well it could have been caused by materials falling from the impact of a meteorite. Splatter from that strike COULD have caused it.
The best theory I have heard is that they were caused by natural springs that form along the limestone aquifers underneath the south east. Sinkholes could also lend a hand.
The teardrop shape could be something as simple as prevailing winds.
We may never know otherwise.
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Since I was 5 I knew methane could be a deadly thing.
One possibility might be a large earthquake that liquefied the subsurface causing violent venting among other theories:
In the New Madrid region, the earthquakes dramatically affected the landscape. They caused bank failures along the Mississippi River, landslides along Chickasaw Bluffs in Kentucky and Tennessee, and uplift and subsidence of large tracts of land in the Mississippi River floodplain. One such uplift related to faulting near New Madrid, Missouri, temporarily forced the Mississippi River to flow backwards. In addition, the earthquakes liquefied subsurface sediment over a large area and at great distances resulting in ground fissuring and violent venting of water and sediment. One account of this phenomena stated that the Pemiscot Bayou "blew up for a distance of nearly fifty miles."
If you're talking about the bays themselves there's actually a good deal of overlapping in a lot of places. Even bays within bays in some instances; overlapping rims, etc. If you have or can get Google Earth you can spend hours scouting around the planet looking for anomalies and unusual formations. Some of it VERY cool.
BTW, the liquefaction possibility is an idea I floated several years ago in earlier discussions but I haven't seen anything to about it one way or the other since. Oddly enough or not, our east coast is apparently not the only place in the country, or the world for that matter with bay formations or oriented lakes, etc.
There have been lots of good threads over the years dealing with happenings during the Pleistocene/Holocene event. I’m convinced some really weird stuff happened around that period.
Yup...really weird stuff.
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