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Shocking revelation: Former Air Force personnel disclose UFO, alien-related threats
NECN ^

Posted on 09/27/2010 1:34:18 PM PDT by marbren

(NECN: Washington) - A press conference was held this afternoon at the National Press Club in Washington, where at least a dozen former U.S. Air Force personnel, mostly officers who worked on secret projects connected to sensitive nuclear weapons sites, are admitting that they were privy to UFO and alien-related incidents -- that occurred during their time of service.

In this clip, you will hear from: Retired Air Force Captain Robert Salas, Former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Dwayne Arneson and Former Air Force Official Bill Jameson

(Excerpt) Read more at necn.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: humor; missiles; panstarrs; quix; qx; ufo; usaf
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To: presently no screen name

GREAT POST.

Gotta get ready for a tech to take control of my computer from tech support at 12:30 MDT. . . . may not get to that post for a while.


1,001 posted on 10/18/2010 10:06:13 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

oh, I’m interested in any video of a Vatican official who says that “this is an official pronouncement from the Vatican” rather than his own personal opinion. You, Quix can state your personal opinion, but, as you pointed out, many of your own congregation don’t share that and your pastor does not give a public announcement of this. THere is NO and has never been any pronouncement by the CHurch on alines amongst us.


1,002 posted on 10/18/2010 10:12:19 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Quix

Furthermore, even Balducci used a lot of “it is probable”, “they could be” etc. and never made any “pronouncements” — his own opinions are his own opinions.


1,003 posted on 10/18/2010 10:14:05 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos
the Church has not given a public pronouncement on this topic either

And that means what? That satan doesn't deceive?

If nothing else, consider yourself fortunate that when and if that time comes, you will be ahead of the curve just because you heard/read about it.
1,004 posted on 10/18/2010 10:15:20 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name; Quix

Do read before shooting off. Quix said that The Church made a pronouncement. I said it hasn’t. THAT was the topic alone not whether Quix is right or wrong, I do not comment (and for that matter neither does The Church)


1,005 posted on 10/18/2010 10:24:05 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos
Do read before shooting off.

A little angst going on? I DID read and I commented and VERY MUCH on topic.
1,006 posted on 10/18/2010 10:39:07 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Cronos; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ..

I’m confident you are bright enough to understand

that at THIS STAGE

The Vatican too is taking advantage of ‘plausible deniability’

while also upping the ante and incrementally preparing the sheep for the coming disclosures.

Paola was rather tight lipped about the confidential conversations with Balducci before his death.

However, it was still fairly clear reading somewhat between the lines and somewhat not so between the lines—that Balducci had the ear and confidence of the Pope on the matter and was not some wild lone ranger or loose canon on it. There are others who are also in that category.

I suspect that if you had my decades of study in your bones on it . . . that you, too would understand more specifically and more emphatically the very carefully calculated pronouncements that the Vatican observatory folks have given to the public.

THEY ARE NOT merely voicing their personal opinions without any approval from the Pope or other hierarchy. That much is very clear.

For one thing, much more would have been said by some of them much earlier.

Given your level of skepticism, I won’t bother looking up the links to the current videos. It appears that you, too are somewhat wedded to a TYPE II ERROR . . . suffering evidently from the illusion that a TYPE II ERROR is LESS deadly than a TYPE I ERROR . . . when, of course, it is NOT.


1,007 posted on 10/18/2010 10:44:42 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta
Could I then say the same that using a TYPE II ERROR . . . suffering evidently from the illusion that a TYPE II ERROR is LESS deadly than a TYPE I ERROR, namely that your group has a deep belief in aliens amongst us as a group?
1,008 posted on 10/18/2010 11:05:08 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos

I don’t know anyone in any of those sorts of groups who believe that a TYPE II error is less deadly.

Perhaps you don’t understand.

WHEN ONE ignores the evidence to an extreme degree to avoid ONE of those errors, that increases to a virtual certainty that one will be victimized by the OPPOSITE type error.

The typical naysayers tend to say that

THERE IS NOTHING THERE

AS A PERSONAL BELIEF, OPINION—IGNORING TONS OF QUALITY EVIDENCE—as though, their personal opinion, belief, WITHOUT considering remotely fair-mindedly, if at all, the evidence—they consider that their opinions are fact.

I don’t know of any of my closer associates in any such groups who have that sort of relationship with a TYPE II error.


1,009 posted on 10/18/2010 11:11:54 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Quix,with all due respect, it is clear to me, based on your comments in post 901, that you are woefully ignorant of the
catholic Church. And I do state that with respect. First of all there is no way the Pope would ever make such a declaration. He does not even have the authority to do so. And second of all, Paola P Harris, of all people does not speak for the Vatican.

You have made the comment many times that the Vatican supports the idea of one-world government. I am a devout practicing RC. I know many Priests and even a couple of Bishops. One Priest who works at the Vatican. I have questioned many of them on that point. They have stated, to a man, that the Vatican totally rejects the concept. Quite the contrary, The Church considers the nation-state and national sovereignty to be of paramount importance to the order of world peace.

Please, please stop listening to the alleged pundits, and that includes me, and get to know some Catholic priests and authentic Catholic theologins and find out from the source what the Church believes.

I love you Quix as a Christian brother, and I know you love our Lord Jesus as much as I do. So please don't think I'm attacking you or trying to start an argument. I look forward to your posts and trust you will continue in your mission of opening peoples minds. Just focus on yourself occasionally. In His Love, L2ZA

1,010 posted on 10/18/2010 11:12:47 AM PDT by Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

Thanks tons.

Much appreciate your sentiments and exhortation.

The same affections back at you.

This paragraph is encouraging:

You have made the comment many times that the Vatican supports the idea of one-world government. I am a devout practicing RC. I know many Priests and even a couple of Bishops. One Priest who works at the Vatican. I have questioned many of them on that point. They have stated, to a man, that the Vatican totally rejects the concept. Quite the contrary, The Church considers the nation-state and national sovereignty to be of paramount importance to the order of world peace.


However, frankly, the encyclical that included the horrid globalist paragraph also included lots that SOUNDED like you just wrote.

What are we to make of the contradictions?

Perhaps it is my extensive years studying globalism that leaves me with my jaundiced view.

I don’t think it would take much for the globalist puppet masters to insure that the college of Cardinals towed the line. They clearly have their members in it already.

They are extremely skilled at pressure tactics.

I pretty much don’t doubt that they will insure who they want as the next Pope.

I think all this would be one thing if it were likely to be totally brazenly played out on the public stage.

It will likely only be partially so.

I just cringe at the thought of unnecessary numbers of RC’s being snookered by such hideous forces and folks.

Thankfully, all those who truly SEEK GOD’S FACE AND PUT JESUS FIRST will be unlikely to be fooled.

And, I suppose the lukewarm are condemned already.

Still . . . it is my task to be a watchman on the wall. And I care about RC’s too.


1,011 posted on 10/18/2010 11:25:22 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
So, I repeat:
1. Your grouping has not made any pronouncement on aliens amongst us
2. You said yourself in your guesses that only a small % of your grouping agree with you about aliens, the rest disbeleive
3. Your pastor, you're not sure about

So, can you state that your group has a deep belief in aliens amongst us as a group?
1,012 posted on 10/18/2010 11:33:26 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos

I’ve already made that reasonably clear as you outlined it.

What is the problem?


1,013 posted on 10/18/2010 12:55:50 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Quix, I have no doubt that Satan has infiltrated the Vatican. He's been doing that for centuries. But I also know that Benedict is no dummy. He has surrounded himself with some of the holiest men in the Catholic Church. I am very confidant that when it comes time to replace him We can count on God's choice rising to the top.

We have a private chapel in our home where my wife and I spend much time praying for the Church. I've even been known to pray for you from time to time as I know you pray for us at FR as well.

God bless.

L2ZA

1,014 posted on 10/18/2010 1:09:57 PM PDT by Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

PRAISE GOD FOR YOUR PRAYERS.

I pray you are right about Benedict.

Yes, I have prayed for you and shall again.

Thanks tons.


1,015 posted on 10/18/2010 1:11:27 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Cronos; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights

You are not asking me but I am responding, honored as I am to be included in your post.

Inasmuch as the Word tells us there are two kinds of created beings, angels and humans, and the aliens are manifestly deceptive, then any alleged ‘aliens’ would have to be fallen angels.


1,016 posted on 10/18/2010 6:28:57 PM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: esquirette

Quite plausibly. Certainly I believe that the critters known and written about the last 60+ years are fallen angels.

However, I do not believe that Scripture expressly limits God’s created beings to angels and humans.

Perhaps you meant sentient created beings.

Even there, I don’t believe Scripture expressly limits God’s created beings to angels and humans. It may be. It is hazardous to argue from silence. Scripture is silent on the issue in terms of anything clearly applying to the issue.


1,017 posted on 10/18/2010 6:41:20 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Ditter; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; A knight without armor; albertp; aragorn; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...
Here's the photo by FREEPER DITTER'S AUTO TRIGGERED GAME CAMERA South of Houston . . . triggered by a deer clearly seen in the shot . . . with the UFO type light stuff above and behind the deer. DITTER AUTO CAM DEER TRIGGERED UFO SHOT Here's Ditter's narative about the shot: This photo was taken by an automatic game camera on our ranch in . . . County Texas at the time and date indicated on the photo. The camera was facing north and the light can be seen between two clumps of trees. Quix, that is all I know to say about it. The other light is a different shape but was taken by the same camera a few days later. I don't have time to search for it today and it might even be in one of the cameras down at the ranch. --Ditter;
1,018 posted on 10/18/2010 8:18:44 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for posting this for me Quix.


1,019 posted on 10/18/2010 8:29:25 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Quix

That might be a spirit !


1,020 posted on 10/18/2010 8:32:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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