Posted on 10/30/2011 7:52:15 PM PDT by Kevmo
how could something like the E-Cat work in defiance of known science?
Even so, to be completely dismissive of Rossi’s claims would seem to be foolish as it is one thing to *believe* something is false based on your assumptions and quite another to be able to *prove* beyond a reasonable doubt that it is false.
So, before we look at the results of the E-Cat test on the 28th, what of Rossi and the E-Cat? Why has he been so cagey and secretive about the E-Cat and not permitted a reputable third party to conduct an objective performance test? Well, there appear to be two plausible explanations .
The first is that Rossi is honestly mistaken and he just believes the E-Cat works and produces excess energy when, in fact, it doesn’t... it’s hard to believe as Rossi has been collaborating with a well-credentialed physicist and emeritus professor from Bologna University, Sergio Focardi. A failure of this kind would be a sad and unfortunate conclusion for all concerned as they would be discredited and reviled .
The other explanation is that the whole thing is a fraud and that the E-Cat doesn’t work at all. This too is hard to swallow because there would be no obvious upside. What benefit could either Rossi or Focardi hope to gain?
Sure, there may be some money involved but I doubt whether it would be a large enough amount to justify what would be an usually elaborate and public hoax and whoever the funds came from would, almost certainly, start legal proceedings (if not retain the services of a “mechanic”) .
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/30/believing-in-cold-fusion-and-the-e-cat/2/
I really dislike the title of this article.
The Cold Fusion Ping List
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/30/believing-in-cold-fusion-and-the-e-cat/2/
I’m not sure of the logic:
“It’s not a scam because the scammer can’t possibly believe he can get away with the scam?”
Of course you would, because it points out the fact that, whatever is going on with the E-Cat, it ain't science.
So, as with the other E-Cat tests, we’re really not much better off than we were prior to the 28th. We’ve got reports that sound exciting but there’s still no real evidence. That’s not to say some data doesn’t exist but until a verifiably objective analysis is conducted by an independent third party that confirms the results match the claims there’s no real news, which is utterly disappointing.
FRAUD
it ain’t science.
*** No, it is not science, unfortunately; it is business.
But that is not why I dislike the title of this article.
Now, THAT is how you drive-by on a thread.
T4BTT
Thanks for bumping the thread.
That's what Bernie Madhoff said.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62
It appears that a relatively innocuous post responding to you was pulled.
This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.
55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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What is “E-Cat”?
Bernie was involved in something scientific?
It is short for Energy Catalyzer. Might as well start with Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer
But hurry up & read it because it is
being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia’s deletion policy
exactly
You just said that E-Cat is not science, it's business.
Your words.
Bernie was just engaged in business, too.
The evil twin of lolcat.
What is “E-Cat”?
Now, that, is photography!
Then why did Bernie say “No, it is not science, unfortunately”
Kevmo: No, it is not science, unfortunately; it is business.
EPU: That’s what Bernie Madhoff said.
Just don’t anybody dis my girl Alpine Kat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM
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