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How Many Loose Planets in the Milky Way?
Sky & Telescope ^ | February 29, 2012 | Monica Young

Posted on 03/10/2012 11:28:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv

Researchers at the Kavli Institute for Particle Astrophysics and Cosmology (KIPAC) at Stanford University estimate that "nomad" planets, ejected from their home stellar system and now free-floating through the Milky Way, could outnumber stars by as many as 100,000 to 1. Earlier estimates were more like a handful to 1, though previous studies have only counted unbound planets more massive than Jupiter.

To estimate the number of unbound planets as small as Pluto that could be roaming the galaxy, Louis Strigari (KIPAC), lead author of the study, began with a basic rule of nature: where a few big objects are found, there are many more small, just like a few boulders may be surrounded by thousands of pebbles. Strigari and colleagues calculated the number of unbound planets by extrapolating from the small number detected so far by direct imaging and by gravitational microlensing.

Direct imaging has severe limits because planets are so faint. Microlensing offers more promise. It looks for the characteristic brightening and fading of a background star when an object, even one as wimpy as Pluto, passes nearly in front of it and bends its light slightly by gravity. So far, 24 planet-mass objects have been detected by microlensing -- 14 bound to their parent stars, 10 apparently not. Microlensing offers hope for detection of loose objects large and small even if they are completely dark, and even at great distances across the galaxy.

(Excerpt) Read more at skyandtelescope.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; catastrophism; deusexmachina; immanuelvelikovsky; rogueplanet; rogueplanets; science; velikovsky; worldsincollision; xplanets
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To: jessduntno; bert

;’)


21 posted on 03/10/2012 11:50:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: bert

;’) I’m an accretion denialist.


22 posted on 03/10/2012 11:50:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: SunkenCiv
Moon rocks brought back by Apollo astronauts were used to date the Moon and Earth's age at 4.5 billion years: the Moon being postulatled as a satellite resulting from a massive collision by the Earth/Moon mass, -- "spun from dust and rock around the sun" -- with some other celestial body.

Quotation is from "Darwin's Ghost" by Steve Jones, page 195

23 posted on 03/10/2012 11:52:09 AM PST by OldNavyVet (,)
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To: bert

“To us accretionist’s the concept of a loose planet is heresy.

All planets are accreted.

The concept of a Fluke (loose) planet is however interesting”
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Yes, the concept of a Fluke planet is interesting. The theoretical danger of such “loose” planets cannot be overestimated. Are these Fluke planets given free contraceptives to keep them from multiplying? Or would that only reward these loose planets?


24 posted on 03/10/2012 11:56:59 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: 17th Miss Regt

25 posted on 03/10/2012 11:57:42 AM PST by mikrofon (Loose & otherwise ;)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Thundering Worlds" by Edmund Hamilton
26 posted on 03/10/2012 12:00:23 PM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: OldNavyVet

Thanks ONV.

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27 posted on 03/10/2012 12:00:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: Wuli

The ratio of 100,000:1 (rogues to orbiting) would be a tiny fraction of what is needed, but you may have struck on the reason for this hypothesis. :’)


28 posted on 03/10/2012 12:02:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: House Atreides

Yes, the concept of a Fluke planet is interesting. The theoretical danger of such “loose” planets cannot be overestimated. Are these Fluke planets given free contraceptives to keep them from multiplying? Or would that only reward these loose planets?

Only if someone calls them sluts ...


29 posted on 03/10/2012 12:06:14 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Might be a good idea to get re-started on some spaceships. Just in case.


30 posted on 03/10/2012 12:12:33 PM PST by ngat
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To: SunkenCiv

I realized long ago that the issue of dark matter is a hypothesis needed to explain the reigning hypothesis of the begining and structure of the universe, unless some as-yet-unidentified phsysicist (or patent clerk with a penchant for math) is going to “solve” the issue by revising the math that demands the existence of dark matter.


31 posted on 03/10/2012 12:14:13 PM PST by Wuli
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To: eCSMaster

Thanks, could make a nice topic as well!


32 posted on 03/10/2012 12:17:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: SunkenCiv; null and void

What is the definition of a planet?

I don’t think an object just out there somewhere qualifies.

So I propose “loose planets” be called Vagi.


33 posted on 03/10/2012 12:17:39 PM PST by bigheadfred (I'm still pissed about Pluto)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’d always assumed there would be plenty of nomads. It may even explain retrograde orbits of some planets.


34 posted on 03/10/2012 12:21:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: null and void


“How likely is a loose planet to have any atmosphere?”

Good point.

Interstellar space is about 3 Kelvin, right?

Radiant energy from a nomad planet’s interior would be quite small.

On Earth, for instance, I think it’s less than 1% of what the sun delivers.


35 posted on 03/10/2012 12:23:32 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Wuli
I wonder if the mass relative to “loose” planets - whose travels do not seem to be (yet) among the calculated mass of the star systems, or the calculted gravitational forces affecting star systems’ travels in their own galaxies - could actually be part of the hypothetical “dark matter” needed to explain current accepted theories of the universe.

This was the first thing I thought of too, when I saw these news stories. But thinking about it, by definition these solo planets either formed from clouds of matter that weren't big enough to form stars or they're fairly small breakaway planets. I'd guess they aren't significant in the total mass of matter in the galaxy.
36 posted on 03/10/2012 12:23:39 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SunkenCiv

I doubt the number is that high.

To start with, while there can be a multitude of reasons that a planet went rogue, once they are out of the powerful gravity of a star, most people would assume Newton’s first law would apply, and the rogue would continue in a straight line in whatever its last vector was when it left orbit.

If that was the case, indeed there would be a lot of rogue planets.

However, Newton’s first law would indeed apply, in that, while it was no longer under the control of its star, it would still be under the control of the forces of the galaxy itself.

These forces are formidable in their own right. They have to be to keep the galaxy from flying off in all directions.

This means that in whatever direction the rogue planet was hurled, it would not be in a straight line, but a gradual arc, over time becoming more and more influenced by this continual force.

So the question becomes one of different effects in different directions. That is, is the rogue heading with or opposed to the flow of the galaxy, toward its edge or center, or its “top” or “bottom”, or a vast number of possible vectors between some of these. Also, where in the galaxy it started from.

This gets even more complicated because while, for example, our Sun takes 250 million years to rotate the galaxy, there is also the density wave theory, that the galaxy also has sections of the galactic disk that have a 10-20% greater mass density, which would strongly affect the arc change of a rogue planet when it passed through them.

Eventually, in most cases, the vast majority of rogues would be slung around until they were captured and destroyed, the vast majority in the center of the galaxy. And while it might take a billion years, it would still cull most of them.


37 posted on 03/10/2012 12:26:47 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Mmogamer

Earth generates tremendous amounts of heat internally. It is largely composed of a very hot liquid magma beneath a thin crust. Magma (lava) spews forth anywhere the crust is thin enough to permit it.


38 posted on 03/10/2012 12:30:57 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Mmogamer

39 posted on 03/10/2012 12:37:12 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

That is true but in outer space, with no sun to heat it, that wouldn’t be enough to keep the atmosphere from freezing.


40 posted on 03/10/2012 12:37:12 PM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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