Posted on 04/14/2012 11:39:17 AM PDT by Reality_News
Never mind the laughable polls coming from MSNBC/ABC and the rest. There must be thousands of residents in the rust belt who can tell us the real deal. The White House must know the real internal polls,obviously thats why they are accusing the GOP of being anti-woman,along with Hillary Rosen displaying her jealous feelings towards the next First Lady. So can any of you give us the real feelings towards Obama coming from Pennsylvania and Ohio? It looks like Obama has already lost the entire south. Obama can't win without Pennsylvania,Ohio and Florida(of course,we all know that).So if you live in any of the tri-fector states, what can you tell us?
I think that our nominee has a good chance of carrying every state that W carried in 2000.Unless I’m mistaken that’s enough (I’d have to check the new EV counts resulting from the census to be sure).
Don’t ever put “real facts” and “Obama” in the same sentence.
Pennsylvania has voter id, now.
0bama is going to rely on Voter Fraud in every state. Our side’s getting out and voting will counter that, hopefully.
The ‘10 election removed generations of Rat politicians in PA. The Fast Eddie machine is gone. Obummer won’t have it here to help him win this state that had a preference for Hitlery to begin with. Shale gas is also big here and the Obummer EPA is trying to shut it down as well. It will not be the easy ride in PA that he had the last time. I would consider PA to be in the toss up column for sure.
In short, it is ours to lose, if we continue to mince our words.
William Flax
As long as the polls are open, Democratic fraud is possible.
I don’t think there are any “real facts.” The election is something yet to happen, and therefore has not entered the world of facts. If chances were facts, gambling would produce a lot more billionaires.
obama is still way ahead among Blacks, people depending on government loot and are really pissed off at the working people giving them the loot, dead people, voter’s with no I.D’s, fake I.D.’s and/or multiple I.D.’s, jihadists, those with I.Q.’s under 75, and other morons. I would also list union members, but they are covered by the other categories.
I wouldn't be counting chickens yet.
Romney has a good chance of becoming the nominee.
I believe the new additions will off set the hard core that refuse to vote for mittens.
I was at a gun shop last week and the owner is a big TEA party guy was having a heated discussion over his buddies not going to vote for romney and the TEA party guy was really upset with his pal {customer} for saying that he was not going to vote for President.
Since they were both over 6'2" and everybody in the store was armed, I just listened {and thought about FR and the nihilists we have here}.
That customer sounded just like any spoiled kid that doesn't get it all his way.
Your analysis makes a lot of sense, and I am glad to hear the state’s “environment” has changed as it has. As you mentioned, shale gas will be a big deal to those people too which would hurt Obama’s chances there as well. Shale gas won’t mean so much to Philadelphia though, (urban, small parcels that won’t see the same royalties, etc.) that little rat hole city that always turns Pennsylvania away from where the state as a whole wants to go. I’m glad I don’t live in PA as I would be so angry every election when 95% of the acreage of PA votes with some sense and then that 5% comes in with all the people there and screws up any common sense they have.
Here’s hoping more of that 95% land mass will come out and overcome that Democratic stronghold in Philadelphia! :)
I live in Ohio and I can tell you there are goodly number of people leaving the State. And I've noticed many are heading to Texas.
So I am guessing we are losing Conservative Votes in the process. Columbus used to be a toss up as far as to which party would win the Area. It seems to have swung permanently to the Dems. The Area I live in is about 70% Republican. In the recent past no one would even consider Running as a Democrat (except for one guy who would always get elected because he represented an Area where most of the Teachers and the City Union Workers lived in) for our town council and Mayor. Last Election the Democrats managed to get 4 people Elected to Our Town Council.
Bottom line from what I can gather Ohio is definitely in Play for the Democrats. They can take it on election day even if Gas Prices and the Economy is still shaky. The Taft Debacle hurt the Republican party deep in the Republican strongholds in Ohio. It will take a decade or more from this point to repair the damage.
Well, there IS no such thing as real facts on this. But never dismiss polls out of hand. All polls have some value even though polls themselves are of only limited value.
We make the mistake of dismissing some things out of hand just because we don’t like them. It doesn’t mean we should embrace them, but none of the polls you site did badly last cycle.
Didn't Rassmussen have Romney up on Osama by a couple of points a day or two ago?
Rass has Romney up by 5 over Obama today.
When the Spanish online voting company SCYTL bought the largest vote processing corporation in the United States, it also acquired the means of manufacturing the outcome of the 2012 election.
It has also been claimed that SCYTL CEO Pere Valles is a socialist who donated heavily to the 2008 Obama campaign and lived in Chicago during Obama’s time as Illinois State Senator. MORE HERE.
I think it depends on how many people have moved away from those states and on how many dead will still vote.
Obama will win both OH and PA, given all of the FReeper support provided here.
I see Kevin Dewine giving up leadership of the Republican State Central Committee (I hate that name - sounds Democrapic) as a positive development. He was fighting with Governor Kasich.
They haven’t begun to destroy RINOmney yet... Polls now aren’t worth much.
Pennsylvania’s new Voter ID Law should help keep Philadelphia and the unions honest. If that’s the case, Obama will lose Pennsylvania.
Romney and his people seem to be very good at tearing down other candidates. If this transfers to the general election from the primaries, we’ll have quite a battle in that respect if he is the Republican candidate.
Also a Buckeye. I think 6 months ago O would lose Ohio, and would trail Sherrod Brown (D) running for Senate. Gov. Kasich really became unpopular last 2 years, but hopefully he has mended fences. He went all out to throw out the Party Chairman (DeWine) who helped win a statewide R sweep. I do not know why Kasich took this internecine tack, but it has been done and I do not know how that will work. It of course split party. Then we have a new insurgency of Conservatives vowing to sit out the presidential race (e.g. FR). If anyone sits out the Prez race, I hope they work to seat a Tea Party Congress to help block O, but as we’ve seen O goes around Congress with impunity (Boehner & McConnell) with czars, recess appointments, agency rules and regs, executive orders, etc. All the Dems have to do is elect ONE guy (O) and they seem focused on doing that. Rs are all over the place - very disorganized and unfocused.
well this so-called rust belt is the heart of this country—that has been under attack for decades-to kill anything-go for the heart! rust-belt is a term of endearment for the left-their shining victory in crushing this great country. If the election is fairly close,we can win in court-if its really close-the fix will be in.
Post of the day
Soros purchased the company that counts the votes. It’s already over.
I swore I wouldn’t vote for Romney. That lasted for a week or so. I will hold my nose and do my duty. I think you will see that more and more
Lol, SJ.
“I swore I wouldn’t vote for Romney. That lasted for a week or so. I will hold my nose and do my duty. I think you will see that more and more.”
It’s hard to say. Some like you will cave. Others like me will stand strong and vote on principle. Some of us are done voting for unprincipled liberals who will do anything to win the presidency, including lying and destroying their opponents reputations.
I think that description applies to Romney as well.
Thank goodness for Romney as the nominee. That’s really going to energize the conservative base.
PP Has Ohio at +8 for Obama, and Romney has huge likeability problems right now.
Soros purchased the company that counts the votes. It’s already over.
Not to worry. George Bush himself will intervene and stop this treachery./S
PA would be a great state if we could get rid of Philthy and Pittsburgh. They screw it up for the rest of us.
I cannot believe that we bright constitutional conservatives cannot find a way to both fight against EVER BEING FORCED TO DRINK GOP KOOLAID and still be able to actively vote against Obama.
I think we can. If we have to vote for Romney as the true lesser evil, we need to start NOW protesting LOUDLY and starting a new party for the future. They got us now because we did not galvanize early enough with the tea party. Political movements take time.
We need to start now for 2016. But I don’t think we need to passively support Obama by not voting. If you are passionate about it, fine, don’t vote for Romney. But he should pick a good conservative as his running mate because he reads FR too and can see he has ZERO CONSERVATIVE SUPPORT. So when he picks someone we like, we can hope that he wins and that maybe the veep will grow to be a future good candidate. Also, if conservatives don’t vote for Pres, they are far less likely to even show up at the polls for the down ticket.
We can do both. I believe in us. We just have to get off our baskets and not waste the 3 years between elections like we did this time. You could smell this coming since 2008 and no one did anything to move a strong, vetted tea party candidate forward. We were counting on Palin and frankly, she is a huge disappointment. She chose the money.
Beyond my comment, I see that Real Clear Politics shows O with a big lead in Ohio from several polls. Not good. Come on, Conservatives. Please go out and vote AGAINST O.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html
Philadelphia should belong to New Jersey, but even they don’t want it.
See post 19. Also recommend YouTube “Battle of Athens”. Post WWII in GA. PROTECT THE BALLOTS....
Thank goodness for Romney as the nominee. That’s really going to energize the conservative base.
Obama is going to energize the conservative base.
I might start spouting support of Romney just to piss off some people. And I do not like Romney.
Go Romney!
I’m very familiar with the Battle of Athens. But, that was an era long gone. People now are more like sheep, I’m afraid. With the help of the media Obama has been tearing down the fabric of our republic with little moves like this transfer of vote counting while everyone is talking about hoodies and stay at home moms.
I hear you and agree. In this age of technology I have no idea how we protect our votes. I trust that my prayer, YOUR WILL BE DONE will lead our ONE NATION, UNDER GOD....
I hear you and agree. In this age of technology I have no idea how we protect our votes. I trust that my prayer, YOUR WILL BE DONE will lead our ONE NATION, UNDER GOD....
Ask again after Labor Day.
well, don’t count out the hordes of freepers who are going to vote obamey...its a game changer.....
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