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Is Obama as bright as he seems? New evidence reveals his college class got lower SAT scores than W
Daily Mail Online ^ | 23 May 2012 | Julian Gavaghan

Posted on 05/23/2012 2:33:07 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

Is Obama as right as he seems? New evidence reveals his college class got lower SAT scores than Dubya

Average SAT score of Obama's 1981 transfer group to Columbia was 1,100

Bush got into Yale with score of 1,206 out of 1,600

Obama refuses to release his academic record

Barack Obama may have got worse high school grades than George W Bush after new evidence showed the current president was among a college class with poor average SAT scores.

Doubts about the supposedly superior intellect of Mr Obama were first raised after he refused to release his academic record.

He has also made some factual errors during his time in the job – although he is still a very long way behind his gaff-prone predecessor.

But now it has emerged that Mr Obama was among a 1981 intake of transfers to New York’s Columbia University that was at the time branded one of the worst ever.

The president, who moved from Occidental Community College in Los Angeles, was among 67 students whose average combined math and verbal score on the Scholastic Aptitude Test is a 1,100, according to a report obtained by Breitbart News.

By comparison, Mr Bush – who earned a history degree from Yale in 1968 – got 1206 out of a possible 1600 points in the same test he took at Andover boarding school in Massachusetts.

If Mr Obama, who majored in political science at Columbia, were near the average of that year, it would mean he had worse high school grades than a president derided by many as the dumbest in history.

Of course, Mr Obama went on to distinguish himself by going on to earn the second highest honour in a graduate law degree at Harvard.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Education; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; barackobama; bho; bho44; columbia; georgewbush; gwb; ivyleague; potus; sat; stupidisasstupiddoes; thebellcurve; yale
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To: GreyFriar

Your post # 36 is right on the money. Thanks.


41 posted on 05/23/2012 8:18:34 PM PDT by zot
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To: LucyT
Highly speculative, but wouldn't surprise me. After all, standardized testing is racist. </sarc>
42 posted on 05/23/2012 8:45:45 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: GreyFriar

Indeed. Thank you for sharing your insights, dear GreyFriar!


43 posted on 05/23/2012 9:10:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: DogByte6RER
The main point here seems to have been missed. That is:

Why has Obozo spent a fortune sequestering virtually everything about his past?

44 posted on 05/23/2012 9:40:16 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Slings and Arrows; GreyFriar; LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; ...
Ping................

Highly speculative, but wouldn't surprise me. After all, standardized testing is racist.

Dont miss #36.

45 posted on 05/24/2012 6:00:56 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: DogByte6RER
From the article:

But, the possibility that he got lower high school scores than Mr Bush, would take some of the shine off his image as an intellectual heavyweight.

With all the Jabs at President Bush, the media is bringing up the taboos.

If ORIGINAL education records were published, 0b0z0's DUMBNESS and fraud would bring down his presidency in a matter of days.

The "black knight in shining armor" picture created by the MSM will collapse and the self-proclaimed "intellectual Left” is blown up into pieces. That would trigger 0b0z0's Communists' total collapse before the election.

46 posted on 05/24/2012 6:29:59 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: clashfan
Dear Mr. 1440,
Hate (actually love) to rain on a fine young fellow's parade, but by your era, the SAT's had already gone through several rounds of dumb-down. Sorry.

However, for a person of your generation, this was a damned fine achievement. Good on the Maths, especially.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled Obama-bash.
Of course the young Barry was a terrible student in HS, and had very sub-par SATs, and very low grades. Must have been a bit of a pariah at olde Punahou, which is a pretty darn good school.
This is why he was shipped off to Ho-Hum Occidental in the first place, instead of the Ivy League.

In that era, any young fellow with a medium melanin component and even semi-decent grades and reasonably credible SATs would have been a shoo-in for a free ride at New England's finest colleges.

However, it was at olde Occidental that he fell under the sway of the Gay Activist, overtly Communist Mentor, Professor Lawrence Goldyn.

Which leads to an interesting question: Goldyn was (is) good pals with Ayers. Did Ayers know Obama through Goldyn, or vice versa? This just gets curioser and curioser.

47 posted on 05/24/2012 6:31:13 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: NEMDF

When I went in (74) we had a bunch of guys in the company with GCT/ARI scores of 23. The minimum was supposed to be 25. I don’t know how it relates to the ASVAB score.


48 posted on 05/24/2012 6:35:15 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: GreyFriar; DogByte6RER; Interesting Times; SeraphimApprentice; zot; Alamo-Girl
Just heard something disturbing on olde NPR!

Romney and Obama were exchanging views on Capitalism. Romney was saying "Mr. Obama just doesn't understand capitalism, etc. etc. etc."

Obama stumbled badly in his incoherent babbling "class warfare" reply. BUT Romney came across as superior, carrying the point, but IMHO, in a rather smarmy and condescending way.

The danger is that Obama will get sympathy ... not rigorous analysis. Romney could sure use a sense of humor.

Skewer the guy, don't bludgeon him! Maybe a Birth Certificate joke or two?

49 posted on 05/24/2012 6:39:41 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: DogByte6RER
Of course, Mr Obama went on to distinguish himself by going on to earn the second highest honour in a graduate law degree at Harvard.

This has never, ever been documented. most of his classmates at Harvard Law School felt he was a bloviating affirmative action baybe.

50 posted on 05/24/2012 6:53:18 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: melancholy; Slings and Arrows; GreyFriar; LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; ...
standardized testing is racist.

It is also patriarchal, eurocentric, gender normative, hierarchical, economically oppressive, and like really hard on people who don't know much.

51 posted on 05/24/2012 6:55:56 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Fractal Trader
.......most of his classmates at Harvard Law School felt he was a bloviating affirmative action baybe.

True. And they will say so in private. But like good lawyers everywhere, they make sure that stays off the record. Those who worked with him on the HLR, are the same way.

However, there are those Harvard Democrat Kool-Aid imbibers who are only too happy to go ON the record. They are the ones who get quoted.

What is unknown to the public is that NO ONE actually flunks anything at Harvard Law ... or other fine law schools. Achievement is recognized, substandard performance tends to be ignored.

52 posted on 05/24/2012 7:05:54 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: DogByte6RER

Dumber than dirt. Not only that, one too many hits of Cocaine and Ganj.


53 posted on 05/24/2012 7:17:42 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Kenny Bunk
What is unknown to the public is that NO ONE actually flunks anything at Harvard Law ... or other fine law schools.

Yes, but you can flunk the bar. Our affirmative action governor, Deval Patrick, attended elite schools, including Harvard Law School, for his entire education, but required three attempts to pass the bar.

Yet, he managed to earn millions of dollars in private practice. How could this be, you might ask. He earned in all by race-baited extortionate attacks on large corporations a la Jesse Jackson.

54 posted on 05/24/2012 7:34:50 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: melancholy

Thanks, mel. You don’t have to be a doctor to know you have a cold AND you don’t have to have a *high IQ* to know that zipp0 doesn’t.


55 posted on 05/24/2012 7:44:47 AM PDT by azishot
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To: Fractal Trader
I will not hear a word against Deval Patrick!

He is blacker, bigger, better looking, and much more hetero than Barry. He is also a better speaker and has at least a bit of humor. He may be just as dumb, but at least he knows it! Barry gives one the impression that he is not in on the joke and believes his own PR.

The Democrats used the "Uncle Ben" idea with Deval. Tall, well tailored, a reassuring "family retainer" sort of guy. He is an easily managed criminal. Perfect for the Massholes. Long will he reign.

National office for this AAA (Affirmative Action Anus) ? Sure. Why not?

56 posted on 05/24/2012 8:10:09 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...


However, it was at olde Occidental that he fell under the sway of the Gay Activist, overtly Communist Mentor, Professor Lawrence Goldyn.

Which leads to an interesting question: Goldyn was (is) good pals with Ayers. Did Ayers know Obama through Goldyn, or vice versa? This just gets curioser and curioser.

57 posted on 05/24/2012 8:16:35 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: wastedyears

Bush is smarter than me because I got an 1190 on the SAT, 650 Math and 540 verbal. This is Bush’s fault.


58 posted on 05/24/2012 8:39:38 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Casie
I was a cheerleader

Your post is worthless without pictures.

59 posted on 05/24/2012 8:41:56 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Casie
I was a cheerleader

Your post is worthless without pictures.

60 posted on 05/24/2012 8:42:08 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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