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The Inside Story of a Controversial New Text About Jesus (Married!)
Smithsonian Magazine ^ | 9-18-2012 | Ariel Sabar

Posted on 09/19/2012 6:49:40 PM PDT by Renfield

Harvard researcher Karen King today unveiled an ancient papyrus fragment with the phrase, “Jesus said to them, ‘My wife.’” The text also mentions “Mary,” arguably a reference to Mary Magdalene. The announcement at an academic conference in Rome is sure to send shock waves through the Christian world. The Smithsonian Channel will premiere a special documentary about the discovery on September 30 at 8 p.m. ET. And Smithsonian magazine reporter Ariel Sabar has been covering the story behind the scenes for weeks, tracing King’s steps from when a suspicious e-mail hit her in-box to the nerve-racking moment when she thought the entire presentation would fall apart. Read our exclusive coverage below....

(Excerpt) Read more at smithsonianmag.com ...


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To: pgyanke

>> Jesus is married. To the Church.

Ladies and gentlemen, hold your calls! We have our winner! :-)


21 posted on 09/19/2012 7:17:51 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Proud2BeRight; Josephat

Not to start a flame war, sincerely, because I don’t mess with other people’s beliefs, but a little known fact is that back in the time of Jesus, you could not be honored with the title of Rabbi UNLESS you were married and had consummated the marriage. That was the Law at the time. So it would not surprise me either.


22 posted on 09/19/2012 7:18:36 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Renfield
Oooohh.

A fourth century Coptic text.

So that's only 200 years after the actual Gospels.

That's kind of like finding a text from 1998 that says that George Washington stole Richard Grieco's Walkman.

23 posted on 09/19/2012 7:19:06 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Renfield
The rest of the fragment has been discovered. The entire text says, “Jesus said to them, ‘My wife, Mary, is going to McDonalds. Who wants a burger?’”

The text's authenticity has been thrown into question...

24 posted on 09/19/2012 7:21:53 PM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Renfield
written in 400AD... feh
25 posted on 09/19/2012 7:22:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Eddie01

Anyone ready to riot? Oops, sorry...wrong religion.


26 posted on 09/19/2012 7:23:28 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: MestaMachine

There was an article in the Tampa Trib this morning that listed the names of two exceptions to your rule.


27 posted on 09/19/2012 7:23:58 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Renfield
Written 400 years after the birth of Christ, this business card item with no other corroborating writings is supposed to be honored in academic circles as a significant finding? One fake in 400 years isn't so bad. There is a major amount of writings that Biblical scholars have omitted from the Bible because they cannot be corroborated or there is too little to justify their inclusion. This is too little to reverse thousands of years of academic studies and writings.
28 posted on 09/19/2012 7:24:31 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: piasa

What was it? I am truly curious. Have been for years and years.


29 posted on 09/19/2012 7:26:56 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Renfield

30 posted on 09/19/2012 7:27:59 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: pgyanke

Absolutely right!

I am just waiting for my Bridegroom to call me Home!

*BIG SMILE*

Maranatha!


31 posted on 09/19/2012 7:28:06 PM PDT by Shelayne (Even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus!)
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To: Josephat
To play the devil’s advocate, I must ask why His being married would, in any way, diminish Him. He is God and I believe part of His mission was to, by His example, show us how to live our lives. Of course, His main mission was to die for us because it is impossible for us to live up to God’s strict standards. Since marriage is such an important part of our human lives, it kind of make sense that Jesus might have shown us how to do that part right, too.

Well at least you put this claim in proper perspective .... devil's advocate. Christ was God with us... now why on earth would He have need or cause to have a physical wife... Spiritually speaking Christ is the 'bridegroom' the Church is the bride.

32 posted on 09/19/2012 7:29:29 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: pgyanke
Ephesians 5:25

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her

His model for marriage is stated thusly, in the Living Word. Indeed, Christ was married to the church.

33 posted on 09/19/2012 7:41:17 PM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: MestaMachine
Not to start a flame war, sincerely, because I don’t mess with other people’s beliefs, but a little known fact is that back in the time of Jesus, you could not be honored with the title of Rabbi UNLESS you were married and had consummated the marriage. That was the Law at the time. So it would not surprise me either.

It is out of the devil's own workshop to be making claims that Christ, 'Emmanuel' God with us would be in need of a flesh woman. Who exactly ever called Jesus rabbi? Christ was not a rabbi He was the only begotten Son of God, sent to redeem those that believe upon Him, and so that destruction of the devil already pronounced could be carried out. BUT the Heavenly Father does give His children all of them the free will to believe whatever they choose to believe.

34 posted on 09/19/2012 7:45:22 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Renfield

No doubt the Piltdown Jesus. Just hope I’m around to see the experts squirm out of this one..


35 posted on 09/19/2012 7:45:28 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Just mythoughts

I have already stated this is a matter of curiosity. Believe as you will. “TEACHER” is Rabbi. So I wonder.


36 posted on 09/19/2012 7:48:38 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Renfield

Oh, goody, another old gnostic text from Egypt. (Yawn!)


37 posted on 09/19/2012 7:50:27 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: MestaMachine

Not sure where you found this, but Jesus was declared a “rabbi,” based on His knowledge of the scriptures, at the age of 12 by the elders in the temple of Jerusalem. I don’t think he was wed at the time, because His parents, according to the New Testament, had been looking for Him for three days..


38 posted on 09/19/2012 7:51:06 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Josephat

These two verses imply that it would diminish Jesus to be married (which is impossible, therefore He wasn’t married).

Matthew 19:12 (ESV)
12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.”

1 Corinthians 7:32–34
32 I want you to be efree from anxieties. fThe unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord. 33 But the married man is anxious about worldly things, how to please his wife, 34 and his interests are divided. And the unmarried or betrothed woman is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit. But the married woman is anxious about worldly things, how to please her husband.

Also:
http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/was-jesus-married


39 posted on 09/19/2012 7:55:54 PM PDT by impimp
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To: Proud2BeRight

Married? I want to see the marriage certificate. What, “NO” paper work, records sealed....kind of reminds me of someone else.


40 posted on 09/19/2012 7:56:08 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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