***Sad But True: O'Reilly Says Oswald Shot JFK***

Stardate: 1210.5

[Clyde5445]

What I found interesting was the FBI agent who test fired the rifle stated it was impossable for Oswald to fire 5-7 shots in 5-7 seconds.

What I concluded was there had to be a second gun man.

[ETL]

“Shoe store manager Johnny Brewer testified that minutes later he saw Oswald “ducking into” the entrance alcove of his store. Suspicious of this activity, Brewer watched Oswald continue up the street and slip into the nearby Texas Theatre without paying.[138] He alerted the theater’s ticket clerk, who telephoned police[139] at about 1:40 pm.

As police arrived, the house lights were brought up and Brewer pointed out Oswald sitting near the rear of the theater. Oswald appeared to surrender (saying, “Well, it is all over now”,[140] or “This is it”) then pulled a pistol tucked into the front of his trousers, pointed it at an officer, and pulled the trigger. However, the officer (Nick McDonald) stated that the hammer came down on the webbing between his thumb and first finger of his own left hand as he grabbed for the pistol, and it did not fire. Oswald also struck the officer with his left hand. However, the officer struck back and Oswald was disarmed after a struggle.[141][142] As he was led from the theater, Oswald shouted he was a victim of police brutality.[140]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald#Capture

[CougarGA7]

I’ve been to the book depository site. Very makable shot honestly and you wouldn’t have to be a qualified sniper to do it either.

So my question is. Where do you believe the shot came from then? And be specific please.

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Yep. The History Channel did a great recreation of the shooting and presenting the evidence and easily proved it could be done by one man in the book depository, where they found the rifle.

Kennedy wasn’t shot in the front of the head, and there was no “magic bullet” as the front seat where TX Gov John Connally was sitting was offset to make it easier for the President to enter/exit the Lincoln Convertible.

The bullet didn’t do anything unusual and it struck Connally due to the offset of the front seat.

[ETL]

Oswald was part of the same cabal that has foisted Obama upon America.

Exactly.

[ETL]

It just amazes me how many people continue to listen to BOR. He is nothing more than a conceited buffoon.

Even a conceited buffoon is right every once in a while.

[Doc91678]

From what I’ve read and watched on TV, there is no longer any doubt that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone shooter. However, I still believe that it was all political and based upon Oswald’s Marxist ideology. Whether he was assisted or not will never be known since most witnesses to any conspiracy are more than likely long dead.

[CougarGA7]

meant to ask you this question at post 103 to you not “wizard”.

[Doc91678]

Sorry, but that is a myth. Several shooters have shown that even with the Mannlicher-Caracano three accurate shots could be made. The fact that two struck JFK out of three is the proof. The first shot hit a traffic signal and working the bolt of this gun is quite smooth.

[GodfearingTexan]

There had to have been multiple people involved and more than one shooter. Oswald was involved but wasn’t alone. E. Howard Hunt told his son on his deathbed that LBJ was behind it. A lot of facts were in the Stone movie, even if Stone is a fruitcake: the prostitute thrown from the car on the highway from NOLA to Dallas. Oswald’s defection, marriage, redefection. The magic bullet theory. JFK’s head snapping backwards and witnesses (many) saying the shots came from the grassy knoll. Too many things wrong with the Warren Commission report.

And I’m a realist, a conservative, a veteran. Do I know the answer? No, but I know it didn’t go down with Oswald as a Lone Wolf.

[Rodney Dangerfield]

60-70 yards with a scoped rifle and a slow moving car (SS agents were walking alongside.) is indeed very make-able.

I would compare it to an NBA player hitting 3 consecutive Free Throws.

Again, very easy and about 80% probability of success, if not higher.

[fabian]

I have to say that you have to be very gullible to believe that Oswald shot Kennedy. It is a good measure of the commonsense of a person...or lack thereof.

[untwist]

You are correct. Been to the Book Depository, seen the angles and measured the speed of the presidential vehicle. There is no doubt Oswald had the angle and the time given the slow speed of the president’s vehicle. Oswald had a clear shot and was a marksman.

I once was a conspiracy believer. After having been there and seen the site, I believe Oswald could and did commit the assassination himself.

What is remarkable and eerie to me is that after nearly a half century, the site at Dealey Plaza is remarkably close to as it was is on that horrific day. Going there and seeing it for the first time last year felt like walking on a movie set. The buildings and atmosphere at the scene feel like you are stepping in a time machine back to 1963. It is very emotional to go there and see it for yourself. It is worth a visit for one to go and see it personally.

[Nifster]

smoke some more dope....oh and we didn’t go to the moon either

[djf]

Someone did a “stabilized” version of the Zapruder film.

You plainly see Kennedys head move back, towards the left, as if exactly away from the grassy knoll.

[chulaivn66]

Take note:

The Marine Rifleman’s Creed

This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than the enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. My rifle and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, or the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit. My rifle is human, even as I am human, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strengths, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it, until victory is America’s and there is no enemy.

I memorized that at eighteen years of age and learned the lesson.

Two years ago this sixty-five year old disabled VN vet, trifocal equipped Marine, went on an elk hunt. Eighty two yards downrange and downgrade, with the sun at my back, without sling support for my M1-A (M-14), standing in the off-hand position without other support, military peep and blade front sight only, with only a four inch wide neck shot available to me, I slowly squeezed the trigger and downed the game. Impact was one inch off center. No brag, just fact.

As far as the JFK multiple shooter theory goes I only know that those shots purportedly fired by Oswald would not have been impossible, not even unlikely, for a trained rifleman. Oswald received Marine Corps marksmanship training and his rifle was scope equipped.

[SunkenCiv]

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[ravenwolf]

Oswald was a top notch expert marksman according to his Marine Corps marksmanship score cards. Take off your tinfoil hats people Oswald was the lone gunman who shot Kennedy. That does not mean that there was not a conspiracy,

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I agree, and i have no doubt that it was a conspiracy in which Ruby was involved.

[The Wizard]

what’s amazing to me is all the “people” still buy the lie.....that’s how we ended up with bambi......

Oswald shot NO ONE

[trebb]

I’ve always tought that Johnson was behind the deal. This many years later, I am more worried about how history is being rewritten even as it occurs to worry about what will never be more than a footnote.