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Intrade: Obama 65%, Romney 35%: how come? splain it to me pls
intrade ^ | october 17, 2012 | intrade

Posted on 10/17/2012 8:44:43 AM PDT by beebuster2000

I dont get it. Intrade saying Obama a prohibitive favorite. not even close. why?


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To: zencycler

They may not mean ‘squat’ in terms of predictive accuracy but they sure as hell mean something when it comes to their propaganda effect. I’ve seen Intrade used by the MSM and if to the uniformed ‘voter’ is helps to maintain the inevitability of Obama’s pending win.


21 posted on 10/17/2012 8:53:17 AM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: beebuster2000
Intrade just a reflection of the “conventional wisdom” of the liberal media. Which is, “Yeah this race is going to be closer than we thought, but Obama will still pull it out in the end.” I think the premise is based more on wishful thinking than logic, considering undecideds break for the challenger.
22 posted on 10/17/2012 8:53:18 AM PDT by apillar
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To: beebuster2000
Intrade's odds have nothing to do with, and don't purport to predict, how close the end result will be. In other words, if 65% of the people on Intrade (or, rather, 65% of the money traded on Intrade) were to believe that Obama will win the election by a margin of 50.1% to 49.9%, then the Intrade margin would be 65-35, not 50.1-49.9.

I happen to think Intrade's wrong in this case, and that Romney is priced very cheaply (if I had an active Intrade account, I'd buy as much Romney as I could at ~35, and would have bought even more a few weeks back at ~15-20). But, it's important not to conflate the predicted chance of victory with the predicted margin (which Intrade does not address).

23 posted on 10/17/2012 8:53:43 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: beebuster2000

The same people that bet on Intrade buy lottery tickets. And they vote Obama.


24 posted on 10/17/2012 8:54:58 AM PDT by albie ("Work as if you were to live a hundred years. Pray as if you were to die tomorrow." Benjamin Frankli)
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To: beebuster2000
Yet another concern troll.

Intrade is the equivalent of a bar bet -- albeit a few thousand of them bundled together.

Most of those bets were made long ago. The only thing holding them up is pride, i.e. unwilling to concede at this point.

Legally, US residents can't bet at Intrade, at least from within the US. So, most of the people betting there are outside the US, and know nothing about the election than what the media tells them.

Stop worrying about it. It doesn't matter. You can bet on all kinds of things at Intrade, including the weather, earthquakes, and which Supreme Court justice will resign next.

Intrade doesn't predict anything. It's simply a bunch of people gambling on something besides sports or casino games.

25 posted on 10/17/2012 8:55:15 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: beebuster2000
I don't know gambling, but isn't a bet FOR Romney a BIG winner (when he wins) ?

I mean, If I bet on Romney with such low numbers (odds?), don't I win more than if I bet on a favorite (and assuming HE wins) ?

26 posted on 10/17/2012 8:55:15 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ConservativeVoice

Two weeks ago I went to the site with the intent of buying contracts. The registration was a nightmare and included asking me to send a copy of my passport. I’m not doing that and my guess is most good American conservatives share my feelings causing the market to not reflect the true feelings of most in the USA.


27 posted on 10/17/2012 8:55:20 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: beebuster2000

Mormons don’t gamble?? So they are betting on the Obama voters EBT/Food Stamp money to be gambled on Obama....LOL


28 posted on 10/17/2012 8:55:26 AM PDT by jakerobins
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To: beebuster2000

Intrade is open to foreign investors, many of whom are incredibly ignorant about American politics.

I guarantee that most Europeans have no idea who Romney really is, and are pretty ignorant of Obama as well other than he’s black and sucks up to them. And those who do know are political junkies and have their biases.

Leftists like to ridicule Americans as ignorant of the world, but other countries are just as ignorant,except the reality is that they have to know who is President out of the necessity of American influence in the world.


29 posted on 10/17/2012 8:56:40 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: crosslink

Agree. I’m guessing they need your passport info to confirm you’re not a US citizen. I’d buy a lot of Romney if I could.


30 posted on 10/17/2012 8:57:55 AM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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To: beebuster2000
InTrade can be moved by less than a carrot
31 posted on 10/17/2012 8:58:56 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: tatown
What information out there are people using to get them to BUY Obama contracts >60??

If I had to guess, the people currently buying Obama contracts probably view Romney's surge in the polls following the first debate as a temporary bump, rather than a structural change in the race (or, if they think Romney's chances have increased, they think the decrease in the price of Obama contracts has out-paced the decrease in Obama's chances). If that's your view of the race, I could see how Obama contracts would look cheap now, at least relative to where they were before the first debate.

32 posted on 10/17/2012 8:59:23 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: beebuster2000

Intrade had repeal of Obamacare at 75% two minutes before the opinion was published.


33 posted on 10/17/2012 9:05:11 AM PDT by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: ConservativeVoice

You nailed it perfectly. Since Americans can’t use Intrade this is about as insightful as Pravda. I don’t understand why anyone pays attention to this; it’s like taking polls of Europeans only.


34 posted on 10/17/2012 9:07:23 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: HerrBlucher
Intrade is easily manipulated. Keep in mind that intrade was above 75% in favor of obamacare being ruled unconstitutional.....we all know how that worked

I have seen this come up each time Intrade comes up and it doesn't make sense to me. It was struck down as unconstitutional. It was changed to a tax and then upheld.

35 posted on 10/17/2012 9:10:02 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: knarf
I don't know gambling, but isn't a bet FOR Romney a BIG winner (when he wins) ? I mean, If I bet on Romney with such low numbers (odds?), don't I win more than if I bet on a favorite (and assuming HE wins) ?

You are correct. A $65 bet on Obama would pay $100 if he wins, a profit of $35, and a percentage gain of 35/65 = 54%. A $35 bet on Romney would pay the same $100 if he wins, a profit of $65, or 65/35 = 185%.

36 posted on 10/17/2012 9:10:02 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Benghazi murders due to spontaneous riot over a video. Or terrorism. Depends on the day.)
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To: beebuster2000

There are key businesses that have money to gain from being pro-Democrat, intrade is one of them. Honestly, I can summarize the following parts of our nation that are biased so bad to the Democrats they practically kiss their $%^

1) Wall Street
2) Any business that received a bailout
3) Majority of Unionized Labor
4) The majority of billionaires and multi-millionaires

That pretty much sums it up.


37 posted on 10/17/2012 9:10:32 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: LRoggy

Passport needed?

Isn’t that gambler disenfranchisement?


38 posted on 10/17/2012 9:10:40 AM PDT by Professional
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To: beebuster2000
InTrade can be moved by less than a carrot

Freakonomics: Manipulation in Political Prediction Markets

39 posted on 10/17/2012 9:12:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: beebuster2000

“Explain it to me”

Because it’s meaningless garbage.

Glad I could help.


40 posted on 10/17/2012 9:12:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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