How the Faithful Voted: 2012 Preliminary Analysis (Jews voted 69% for Obama)

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[MadIsh32]

In his re-election victory, Democrat Barack Obama narrowly defeated Republican Mitt Romney in the national popular vote (50% to 48%)1. Obama’s margin of victory was much smaller than in 2008 when he defeated John McCain by a 53% to 46% margin, and he lost ground among white evangelical Protestants and white Catholics.

But the basic religious contours of the 2012 electorate resemble recent elections – traditionally Republican groups such as white evangelicals and weekly churchgoers strongly backed Romney, while traditionally Democratic groups such as black Protestants, Hispanic Catholics, Jews and the religiously unaffiliated backed Obama by large margins.

[Lumper20]

This religious blame is BS.

“For those of us who have fought for it FREEDOM has a special flavor that the protected shall never know.”

[daniel1212]

You are increasing becoming shrill. Damning evangelicals because 20% voted like 50% of Catholics is absurd, and is attacking the chaff in our eye when a beam is in your own, while the former needs no explanation other than the one given, that we do not claim all who use the term evangelical are true, or claim assured infallibility, neither will all the proffered “historical baggage” you can muster excuse the 50% of Catholics who vote liberal.

Post no more of your absurdity to me, as they are hardly worthy of a reply but testify to all the sophistry RCs will sometimes go to defend Rome in their supererogation of devotion.

[daniel1212]

>and the more literally they see the Bible, as evangelicals the more conservative they are<

>>you have any facts for this statement?<<

Of course ^ points to previous source:

47.8% of the Evangelicals and 11.8% of Catholics affirm the Bible is Literally true. 6.5% of the former and 19.8% of the latter see it as an ancient book of history and legends. (American Piety in the 21st Century, Baylor Institute for Studies of Religion http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php/33304.pdf)

Evangelical Protestants are the most politically conservative Christian tradition. Within each tradition, those with literal views of the Bible are more politically conservative than is their tradition overall. Catholics that are Biblical literalists (11.8%) hold more conservative political views than the Catholic population in general does. The Biblical literalist Catholic is as politically conservative as the Biblical literalist who is Evangelical (47.8%) or Mainline Protestant. ^

81% of Pentecostal/Foursquare believers strongly agree that the Bible is totally accurate in all that it teaches , followed by 77% of Assemblies of God believers, and ending with 26% of Catholics and 22% of Episcopalians. ( http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/53)

Related:

25% of Evangelical Christians and 20% of other Protestants and 7% of Catholics said the read the Bible on a daily basis. 44% of Catholics said they rarely or never read the Bible, along with only 7% of Evangelical Christians and 13% of other Protestants. (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/december_2008/catholics_protestants_practice_faith_in_different_ways)

68% of Evangelical Christians attend a regular Bible Study or participate in some other small-group activity. 47% of other Protestants take part in small groups related to their faith, along with 24% of Catholics. ^

72% of Catholics said that the will of the American people should have more influence than the Bible on US law, as compared to 63% of the general public. Pew Research Center, “Pragmatic Americans Liberal and Conservative on Social Issues,” August 3, 2006, (http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/283.pdf).

55% of evangelical converts from Catholicism cited dissatisfaction with Catholic teachings about the Bible was a reason for leaving Catholicism, with 46% saying the Catholic Church did not view the Bible literally enough. (Pew forum, Faith in Flux (April 27, 2009) http://pewforum.org/uploadedfiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/fullreport.pdf)

More: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html

[Tired of Taxes]

many of the evangelicals you quote are black. It would be foolish to think they will not vote Obama if he had a tail and horns.

Likewise, many of the Catholics who voted are Latino - a group with a large percentage voting for Obama.

Also, the secular vote is included in the numbers: those who identify themselves as Catholic but no longer attend Mass. A majority of church-going Catholics favored Romney (according to one study)... however, not by as wide a margin as Evangelicals did. And that is disappointing, especially after all the talk about the HHS Mandate, etc.

[Tired of Taxes]

It's like a circular firing squad here now.

For the record, this study claims that Catholic voters who regularly attend Mass broke 67% for Romney to 32% for Obama. Remember, Catholics are obligated to attend Mass. Any voters calling themselves Catholic who aren't attending Mass regularly are secular voters.

I have no idea how accurate the results of the above study are, but statistics never tell the whole story, anyway. There are other factors influencing the votes of Christians of all denominations. Pointing the finger at Catholics specifically (or any other denomination, for that matter) will get us nowhere.

[Colofornian]

and 95% or more of black Protestants including evangelicals etc. voted for Obama Many Baptist black preachers supported him Is there something wrong with these churches?

You know, the Latino vote went 71-27% Obama...but that doesn't tell the individual breakdowns within Latino religious demographic groups, which Pew Forum was polling prior to the election.

You can find that here: Latinos, Religion and Campaign 2012: Catholics Favor Obama, Evangelicals Divided

Only half (51%) of U.S. born Hispanics are Catholic; and of these, less one in five were favoring Romney going into the election (19%). That breakdown was 73% Obama; 19% Romney.

Among Evangelical Latinos, the breakdown was 50% Obama; 39% Romney; among all Protestant Latinos it was 55% Obama; 33% Romney.

Tell us, Cronos...what is it about Latino Catholics that almost 1 in 4 more would support Obama vs. Latino Evangelicals???

IoW, it's not ONLY Hispanic culture!

That same site has another example: Latino Catholics favor same-sex marriage -- 54-31%...whereas Latino Evangelicals disfavor same-sex marriage 25-66%...

What is wrong with Latino Catholic culture that is having a much greater drag, social issues wise, than other Latino religious sub-cultures?

(Oh, and btw, the problem here isn't only with Latino Catholics...white Catholics favor same-sex marriage 53-37%...so that's 54% of Latino Catholics vs. 53% of white Catholics...showing us that it's the Catholic culture itself that is, in part, corruptive...

[Colofornian]

The question is — why did 20% of white evangelicals vote for Obama?

The question is -- why did 40% of white Catholics vote for Obama?

[Colofornian]

Or to give you some lee-way, can you explain why 9 million evangelicals voted for Obama?

Well, you can probably get 9 million Evangelicals when you add white, Latino, and black Evangelicals together...

14.5 million Catholic idiots voted for him as well

That's probably about right...Probably around 8.8 million white Catholics...over 5 million Latino Catholics...and the rest "other"

Note, Cronos, that Catholics are 25% of the population -- over 77.7 million...yet probably around 30 million (I guestimate about 22.5 white Catholics & 7.5 million Latino Catholics) showed up to vote...

In 2004, white Catholics were 21% of the voting block; they have declined by over 14% since then...as they were only 18% of the voting block in 2012.

A high pct weren't even registered...

But of course, hey, if you register more Catholics, you're actually lining the pockets of the Democrats!

[metmom]

While attending services is not mandatory for Evangelicals, likewise, it’s likely that a number who claim the label of Evangelical are no more Evangelical than the twice a year Catholic is Catholic.

And if it is acceptable for Catholics to disown those secular or cultural Catholics, then it is acceptable for the Evangelical to disown the secular person who claims the label of Evangelical.

If Evangelicals are required (demanded of so to speak) to own ALL who claim the label of Evangelical, then the same standards need to be rightly applied to ALL denominations.

It can’t be a matter of *Do as I say, not as I do*.

Nobody is responsible for how others act, no matter what label they wear. What I object to is the double standard.

Cronos, how much time have you lived in the US? Are you a citizen?

[metmom]

When it suits someone’s agenda, even Hispanics can be called *white*.

[metmom]

You know what, cronos, you might just as well admit what is plain for the rest of us to see.

No amount of blame shifting and finger pointing can change the stats about Catholics.

There is a problem that is endemic in the Catholics church and has been for YEARS, and it seems that everyone can see it but the Catholics. They are in deep denial of the problem and until the man up and admit to the problem and either the church does something about it, or the congregants man up and demand that the church address the issue, it isn’t going to be going away.

It’s only going to get worse the longer it goes unaddressed.

[Lera]

When it suits someone’s agenda, even Hispanics can be called *white*.

LOL I am Hispanic You would not be able to pick me out of a crowd of white women.
Not all Hispanic people look a like .
It's funny because I tried to get a college scholarship for Hispanics and they laughed at me and told me no but I did get an academic one as a white girl lol

[CynicalBear]

>>>> Well if the Jews don’t care about Isreal why should I worry about it any more?<<<<

<< It's hard to argue that.<<

Here may be one reason guys.

"FOR BEHOLD, in those days and at that time when I shall reverse the captivity and restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all nations and will bring them down into the Valley of Jehoshaphat, and there will I deal with and execute judgment upon them for their treatment of My people and of My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations and because they have divided My land." [Joel 3:1-2 And Israel will be just fine.

"In that day will I make the chiefs of Judah like a big, blazing pot among [sticks of] wood and like a flaming torch among sheaves [of grain], and they shall devour all the peoples round about, on the right hand and on the left ..." [Zechariah 12:6]

[upsdriver]

Just because someone claims to be Jewish or Christian, etc, does not mean they are people of faith.

[CynicalBear]

>>Just because someone claims to be Jewish or Christian, etc, does not mean they are people of faith.<<

You hit the nail on the head there!

[upsdriver]

Thank you.

Faith comes from the heart so it’s pretty hard to measure just who are those “faithful”.

[daniel1212]

Shh! That is what is being avoided. As for the attempt to charge evangelicals with poor turnout, polling data from The Faith and Freedom Coalition, an organization in Duluth, Ga., dedicated to educating and mobilizing people of faith to be effective citizens, revealed that the evangelical vote increased to 27 percent this year, with 78 percent of them voting for Romney and 21 percent for Obama. http://www.citizenlink.com/2012/11/08/surveys-evangelical-electorate-vote-increases/

[daniel1212]

Thanks for your work. Prepare for spin.

[daniel1212]

It has been evangelicals who have been attacked for the loss in a number of posted articles, even though no Christian group voted as conservative as they.

As re regular attendees,to make that the comparison you would have to compare how weekly Evan. attendees voted.

Related to that,

34% of weekly Mass attending Catholics are Democrats, and an additional 19% are not affiliated with a party but lean toward the Democrats (53% identifying or leaning as Democrats). 28% of weekly attenders are Republicans and an additional 17% lean toward being a Republican (43 percent identifying or leaning as Republicans). Thus Democrats have a 10% point edge among weekly attendees, Catholics who attend Mass less. - http://cara.georgetown.edu/NewsandPress/PressReleases/pr061808.pdf (Catholic source)

Exit polls in 2008 reported that weekly churchgoing Catholics voted for John McCain over Barack Obama, by just 50 percent to 49 percent. Weekly Protestant church attendees voted for McCain over Barack Obama 66 to 32 percent. - http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/churchgoing_catholics_chose_mccain_over_obama/ (Catholic source)

Of an estimated Catholics population in the United States of almost 78 million less than 48 million attend more than once yearly. - http://www.glenmary.org/rcms2010/ (Catholic source)

Church attendance [2002-2005]: Evangelicals at approx. 60 percent showed the highest percentage of those who reported they attended services weekly or almost weekly, with 30% going more than once a week. Catholics were at 45 percent (9% more than once a week), and Jews 15 percent. Gallup poll. between 2002 and 2005. - http://www.christianpost.com/article/20060418/weekly-attendance-highest-among-Evangelical-churches.htm

Church attendance [2001]: 69% of those associated with Assembly of God churches, and 66% of other Pentecostal churches and 61% of those in non-denominational Protestant churches were the most likely to have attended in the past week (which does to mean they always do) . - Gallup poll. between 2002 and 2005. http://www.christianpost.com/article/20060418/weekly-attendance-highest-among-Evangelical-churches.htm

However, numbers from head counts show the actual rate of attendance is less than half of what the pollsters report. - http://www.ic.arizona.edu/ic/indv10258/readings/HadawayWhatthePolls.pdf ; http://www.churchleaders.com/pastors/pastor-articles/139575-7-startling-facts-an-up-close-look-at-church-attendance-in-america.html

From 2000 to 2004 the Catholic Church experienced an 11% decrease in its attendance percentage, followed by mainline Protestant churches which saw a 10% percentage decline, while Evangelicals experienced the smallest drop at 1%. - http://www.churchleaders.com/pastors/pastor-articles/139575-7-startling-facts-an-up-close-look-at-church-attendance-in-america.html

Christian church attendance is between 1 ½ and 2 times higher in the South and the Midwest than it is in the West and the Northeast [the latter two have the highest percentage of Catholics]. - http://www.theamericanchurch.org/facts/8.htm; http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2007/03/01/how-many-americans-attend-church-each

The states with the most frequent churchgoers were Mississippi, Alabama, S. Carolina, Louisiana, Utah Tennessee, Arkansas, N. Carolina, Georgia, then Texas. The states with the most infrequent churchgoers were Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Nevada, Hawaii, Oregon, Alaska, then Washington. - http://www.gallup.com/poll/125999/mississippians-go-church-most-vermonters-least.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/22579/church-attendance-lowest-new-england-highest-south.aspx

Committed Roman Catholics (church attendance weekly or almost) versus Non-R.C. faithful church goers (see the below as as morally acceptable): Abortion: 24% R.C. vs. 19% Non-R.C.; Sex between unmarried couples: 53% vs. 30%; Baby out of wedlock: 48% vs. 29%; Homosexual relations: 44% vs. 21%; Gambling: 67% vs. 40%; Divorce: 63 vs. 46% - http://www.gallup.com/poll/117154/Catholics-Similar-Mainstream-Abortion-Stem-Cells.aspx

46 percent of Catholics who say they attend mass weekly accept Church teaching on abortion; 43 percent accept the all-male priesthood; and 30 percent see contraception as morally wrong. - Catholic World Report; 2997 survey of 1,000 Catholic Americans by Roper Center for Public Opinion Research at the University of Connecticut

31% of faithful Catholics (those who attend church weekly, 2004) say abortion should be legal either in “many” or in “all” cases. 2004, - The Gallup Organization Gallup Survey for Catholics Speak Out: 802 Catholics, May 1992, MOE ± 4%

Among Catholics who attend services regularly (weekly or more), 31% say there should be no legal recognition for homosexual relationships (marriage or civil unions), with 26% favoring allowing gay and lesbian people to marry, versus 43% of Catholics who attend once or twice a month, and 59% of Catholics who attend a few times a year or less favoring allowance of homosexual marriage. - (Pew Research Center, Religion & Politics Survey, Pre-­-election American Values Survey, 9/2010; http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Catholics-and-LGBT-Issues-Survey-Report.pdf.)

More: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html

[daniel1212]

And attacking others while defending Rome here has worked to expose her.