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Election over, so US, China agree to make unenforceable long term commitment with no consequences
Joannenova.com.au ^ | November 12th, 2014 | Joanne

Posted on 11/13/2014 9:34:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Now that the mid-term elections are over in the US,  Obama is free to announce the climate commitments that voters didn’t need to hear. (I did say this would happen.) It’s a “landmark” agreement and a “gamechanger”, but no one can point out what  happens if either country doesn’t stick to its agreement.

The end-point of this grand theater of intent and glorious promises is Paris 2015.

What matters is the appearance of “momentum” — and this show ticks all the boxes. The two global superpowers make a sudden, unexpected agreement to reduce emissions and the press can call it “remarkable”, as if it has substance.  Obama –  the President without a majority in either house of Congress –  has announced a big new target of 26% reduction by 2025.  What can a lame-duck President achieve? Fluff and PR. As it happens, US emissions have been falling for years because of the miracle of shale gas and oil. This announcement supposedly doubles the pace of that reduction which was occurring anyhow, and which had nothing to do with any green policies aimed at reducing emissions. Furthermore, Obama, magically, will do it without  imposing new restrictions on power plants or vehicles. What’s not to like?

The Chinese, meanwhile, were projected to hit their peak emissions in 2030 anyhow. So their big commitment is to keep doing what they were going to do anyway mostly. Let’s have a press conference. Everybody cheer. It’s historic baby.

All the important questions go unasked and unanswered

What’s the punishment, the 10,000 line legal agreement? What exactly will happen if neither country meets these “intentions” and “targets”? Is that a big slap on the wrist coming, or will someone have to pay real money — and is the fine in dollars or renminbi?

How many degrees will this agreement cool the world? Is that zero degrees to one decimal place or is that zero to two?

No one needs to mention these minor details. That’s not what matters. It’s not about the climate but about the appearance of doing something, in order to sweep the rest of the world into action:

These actions will also inject momentum into the global climate negotiations on the road to reaching a successful new climate agreement next year in Paris.

 Nobody is hiding that this is about PR and not really about pollution. The first paragraph of the New York Times lays it right out:

BEIJING — China and the United States made common cause on Wednesday against the threat of climate change, staking out an ambitious joint plan to curb carbon emissions as a way to spur nations around the world to make their own cuts in greenhouse gases.

What exactly did China commit too?

…a first-ever commitment by China to stop its emissions from growing by 2030.

Sixteen years from now China may be producing a lot more CO2 each year but they promise to keep their ultra high level at the same ultra high level year after year from then on. They are promising to stick to “extreme”, but not rise to “obscene”.

You can see how strong the  leader’s commitment is. Obama even wrote a letter:

Administration officials said the agreement, which was worked out quietly between the United States and China over nine months and included a letter from Mr. Obama to Mr. Xi proposing a joint approach, could galvanize efforts to negotiate a new global climate agreement by 2015.

But they did meet for two whole days with only a few distractions about military and trade stuff:

It was the signature achievement of an unexpectedly productive two days of meetings between the leaders. Mr. Obama and Mr. Xi also agreed to a military accord designed to avert clashes between Chinese and American planes and warships in the tense waters off the Chinese coast, as well as an understanding to cut tariffs for technology products. - NY Times

It doesn’t take long to change the energy infrastructure of a nation, just a couple of busy days of talking and a letter. Where is the fine print?

Al Gore came to Australia in June to get Clive Palmer to pressure Abbott to commit to doing something “if the rest of the world did”. Thank goodness he did not. How many political leaders will be fooled by a smoke and mirrors agreement like this into thinking it means something?

Bill Shorten was:

Mr Shorten said on Wednesday the “historic and ambitious” agreement showed global leadership from the US and China.

“At the G20 this week, Australia will hold the embarrassing title of being the only nation going backwards on climate change. With China and the United States representing around one-third of the global economy and over 40 per cent of global emissions, there will be significant momentum to deal with climate change in Brisbane,” he said.

Yes, let’s manage the national economy according to the “Embarrassment Index” — forget productivity, health, wealth, and happiness. It’s right up there next to the GCMF: the Global Climate Momentum Factor.

h/t to a friend in Switzerland, Janama


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: china; climatechange; climatechangefraud; co2; energy; globalwarminghoax; obamachinatrip; obamaprstunt

1 posted on 11/13/2014 9:34:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BO is a Clear and Present Danger to America. And it will get worse.


2 posted on 11/13/2014 9:36:15 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong."
Thomas Sowell

3 posted on 11/13/2014 9:37:32 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen (When the going gets tough...the Low Information President Obola (LIPO) goes golfing)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What commitment did China make? The agreement has them doing nothing for 16 years. What a joke.


4 posted on 11/13/2014 9:40:03 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: EagleUSA; Stand Watch Listen; GeronL
Related thread:

Why did China pick 2030? Oh look…

5 posted on 11/13/2014 10:03:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: GeronL
What commitment did China make? The agreement has them doing nothing for 16 years. What a joke.

They probably calculated that in 16 years China will be the leader of the world; and then those old agreements will have no effect.

6 posted on 11/13/2014 10:44:04 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yes, China will get much, much more out of a promise it will never have to keep than will Obama. IT will buy them international cover.

They agree to terms in a treaty/accord they know won’t get Senate confirmation come January. Obama won’t get anything but aggrandizement for himself and maybe to satiate his rabid tree hugging “Warmers”, but the country is NOT INTERESTED in “Warming” and they look like they’re going to stay on message about jobs and economy - something that “warmers” have no answer for.


7 posted on 11/14/2014 3:39:55 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Thanks Ernest.


8 posted on 11/15/2014 8:27:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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