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'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
The Telegraph ^ | July 28, 2015 | Sarah Knapton

Posted on 07/28/2015 11:20:36 AM PDT by Mellonkronos

[Now this would be really cool! Hope it pans out!]

'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours

The British designed EM Drive actually works and would dramatically speed up space travel, scientists have confirmed

By Sarah Knapton, Science Editor 6:04PM BST 28 Jul 2015

Interplanetary travel could be a step closer after scientists confirmed that an electromagnetic propulsion drive, which is fast enough to get to the Moon in four hours, actually works.

The EM Drive was developed by the British inventor Roger Shawyer nearly 15 years ago but was ridiculed at the time as being scientifically impossible.

It produces thrust by using solar power to generate multiple microwaves that move back and forth in an enclosed chamber. This means that until something fails or wears down, theoretically the engine could keep running forever without the need for rocket fuel.

The drive, which has been likened to Star Trek’s Impulse Drive, has left scientists scratching their heads because it defies one of the fundamental concepts of physics – the conservation of momentum – which states that if something is propelled forward, something must be pushed in the opposite direction.

However in recent years Nasa has confirmed that they believe it works and this week Martin Tajmar, a professor and chair for Space Systems at Dresden University of Technology in Germany also showed that it produces thrust.

The drive is capable of producing thrust several thousand times greater than a standard photon rocket and could get to Mars within 70 days or Pluto within 18 months. A trip to Alpha Centauri, which would take tens of thousands of years to reach right now, could be reached in just 100 years.

"Our test campaign cannot confirm or refute the claims of the EM Drive but intends to independently…

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: moon; rockets; space
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To: ThomasMore

LUDUCROUS SPEED NOW!!


21 posted on 07/28/2015 11:42:13 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Mellonkronos

“It produces thrust by using solar power”

Doesn`t work at night at all.


22 posted on 07/28/2015 11:44:41 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))
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To: VRWCmember
"But where will we get the dilythium crystals to run the thing?"

Dilythium crystals are for the warp drive silly! Every 1st year Star Fleet Cadet knows that!
23 posted on 07/28/2015 11:44:42 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SampleMan

Unmanned vehicle could handle constant 3+ g’s, but doubtful a human could and be worth anything once there.


24 posted on 07/28/2015 11:45:25 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: massgopguy

lol.... not sure of the thrust needed to slow down enough to go into orbit around the moon...but I would assume it would be huge...with a load of time needed to decrease speed at a reasonable g force. But I believe someday we’ll have this technology and greater.


25 posted on 07/28/2015 11:46:40 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: bunkerhill7

And its always dark in space. So obviously this thing won’t work.


26 posted on 07/28/2015 11:49:39 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Mellonkronos

Good luck, and thanks for all the fish.


27 posted on 07/28/2015 11:51:03 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (but if not...)
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To: Mellonkronos

The other ‘new’ approach is to use the solar wind. It produces a very little acceleration, but that acceleration continues to build up the velocity with time, to very high values, because there is no friction and air drag in space.


28 posted on 07/28/2015 11:51:21 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Mellonkronos
Holding out for warp drive!
29 posted on 07/28/2015 11:54:02 AM PDT by Jaxter (Si vis pacem para bellum.)
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To: Paul46360

Homina, Homina...


30 posted on 07/28/2015 11:54:18 AM PDT by nomad
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To: Resolute Conservative

Yep, hope they got good brakes. Or they could just us parachute ... right?


31 posted on 07/28/2015 11:54:40 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: ThomasMore

“The problem is slowing down.”

Good point. By my rough math you would be travelling at about 50 million miles an hour by the time you reach Alpha Centauri 100 years from now.

You’d barely have time to take a picture out the window.


32 posted on 07/28/2015 11:57:28 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: Lee'sGhost

Yeah?


33 posted on 07/28/2015 11:58:27 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: ThomasMore

“The problem is slowing down.”

The article hints that there is no conservation of momentum, so start/stop acceleration may not be a problem.


34 posted on 07/28/2015 11:59:24 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Mellonkronos

I’ve read about this before. I was unaware that they’d managed to get it to produce any large effects. If so, that’s bloody awesome. I doubt something like this can be used to escape the earth’s gravity well, but once out there, it opens up some interesting possibilities. Inter-solar exploration would be greatly enhanced if we had propulsive systems in our probes as well.


35 posted on 07/28/2015 12:08:15 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: lapsus calami
Sounds like it would work a lot better than that buggy Improbability Drive.

Improbability fields are inherently dangerous, as the more improbable a given thing is, the more likely it is to actually occur in the field. Bistromathematics is a great improvement. Can't wait to go see Disaster Area!

36 posted on 07/28/2015 12:11:33 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: bigdaddy45

>>> And its always dark in space. So obviously this thing won’t work. <<<

Obviously. When it’s dark you need a wind generator.

Problem solved.


37 posted on 07/28/2015 12:17:29 PM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: antidisestablishment

I always thought that Transparent Aluminum was just another way of saying Aluminum Oxide. ;-)


38 posted on 07/28/2015 12:19:18 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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We can’t build it, not only was it developed by an oppressive white guy, but it will also make muslims feel bad about their contributions to math and science


39 posted on 07/28/2015 12:19:44 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Mellonkronos

Bookmark


40 posted on 07/28/2015 12:30:22 PM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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