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Grading the Debate: Fox News Unethically Coordinates with Romney
Personal ^ | 4 Mar 16 | Xzins

Posted on 03/04/2016 6:27:06 AM PST by xzins

Trump won the debate with Kasich tied. Trump prevails because he was forced to debate 3 moderators who had coordinated with Mitt Romney, who had done his share a few brief hours earlier. He also had to debate 3 candidates, one of whom was independent and the other 2 clearly hitching to the Romney bandwagon.

1. Trump A-

2. Kasich A-

3. Cruz B

4. Rubio - F

I. Fox moderators have stated they spend huge amount of time and analysis preparing their questions.

Then they got down to business, talking through questions. The moderators have spent weeks writing (and rewriting) about 100 potential questions, roughly half of which will actually be asked. Though they have eight to 10 broad topics they plan to raise, including immigration and the economy, the moderators found themselves working down to the wire to refine their questions and think through smart follow-ups.

“Every day I spend a fair amount of time on my iPhone tightening them, redoing them, refining them, further researching them, bolstering them, eliminating them, and starting anew on some,” Ms. Kelly said.

II. One caveat to this process is 'late breaking news'.

Bill Sammon, vice president for news and Washington managing editor, urged the group to keep in mind two additional types of queries: timely ones off late-breaking news and ones “we might have missed.”.

III. So, leaving their carefully scripted questions they have agonized over, the moderators picked up LAST MINUTE orchestrated attempt to INFLUENCE the debate, AND they made it the headliner in their questioning of only one candidate.

IV. Likewise, two other candidates took their cues from the Romney attempt to influence and hung their responses on that same intrusion by a failed former candidate.

V. Trump was hit with this at the last minute on a debate day. One has to truly admire his ability to deal with it.

VI. Fox committed journalistic bigotry by coordinating their questions with an obviously bitter, partisan attack.

1. Trump, A-....For the above reasons and for still being standing, Trump wins the first half of the debate.

2. Kasich, A-...Kasich refused to participate in the Romney attack and in the moderator instigated attacks. Additionally, his answers were very substantial. His response to the Flint water crisis was truly a response from an experienced man. His reminder that he actually worked with Ronald Reagan was another home run. Kasich wins 2nd half of the debate.

3. Cruz, B...Cruz gave some good responses on the legal system about which he is very knowledgeable. He made no real stumbles except his using the Romney coordinated attack.

4. Rubio, F-....Rubio called for an all-out war with full commitment of our troops in the middle east. It went by unnoticed. The guy fancies himself a Little Napoleon.


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To: TBP

He got on Romney’s bandwagon.


101 posted on 03/04/2016 10:37:48 AM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: Sam Gamgee

What do you consider to be his business failures?


102 posted on 03/04/2016 10:38:59 AM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: xzins

Vodka airlines steak mortgage casinos university.


103 posted on 03/04/2016 10:56:13 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: xzins
They were so obviously prejudiced against Trump.

Agreed. I'm not even a Trump fan and I found the whole thing to be a sham. Unfair to single out one candidate to blast, but also unfair to the others who don't get the same amount of attention, good or bad.

104 posted on 03/04/2016 11:01:24 AM PST by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

The Airlines didn’t make it.

Are you talking of chapter 11 with casinos. If not, I don’t know and would have to check.

The university is a civil suit being litigated. He stands by his version and says we just have to wait for the court to decide to see who is right and who is wrong.

I don’t know about vodka and mortgage?


105 posted on 03/04/2016 11:02:45 AM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: TXBlair

Even to the other candidates the questions were always “Trump said this, don’t you really feel like bashing him?”

They didn’t say, “Sen Cruz, what are the principles you’d look for in deciding on who is the replacement for Justice Scalia? How would you get a pick through a hostile senate or overcome a senate filibuster?”

Now, that’s a discussion I’d like to hear.


106 posted on 03/04/2016 11:05:25 AM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: xzins

Exactly!!


107 posted on 03/04/2016 11:07:17 AM PST by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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To: xzins

Using current events in framing questions of the frontrunner in a political debate is hardly an ethical violation.

It’s hysterical how the supporters of the big, strong, winner have such a hard time dealing with any criticism of him.


108 posted on 03/04/2016 11:24:18 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

The moderators and a political opponent of one of the candidates coordinating a political attack is an ethical violation of neutral moderating. Also, it violates ethical standards in general, so it violates journalistic standards as well.


109 posted on 03/04/2016 11:30:22 AM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: jjotto

They should have to disclose their major political activity in reporting on their station.

Fox falsely claims it is “fair and balanced” but in reality it is socially liberal/economic globalist. That is false advertising.


110 posted on 03/04/2016 11:30:59 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: xzins

First of all, that’s nonsense.

Secondly, there is no evidence of “coordination” so it’s also nonsense.

Why can’t Trump fans accept that he will attract scrutiny as the frontrunner?

If he expected a coronation, he should have run in his real party, the Democrats.


111 posted on 03/04/2016 11:38:43 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

There is evidence.

Fox has stated how it prepares questions. They threw this together in a few hours after Romney made a speech, and they used points from the speech.

Romney doesn’t like Trump is not ‘breaking news’.

They coordinated their attack with Romney’s.

Unethical


112 posted on 03/04/2016 11:43:57 AM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: xzins

You do realize that Romney is not a candidate, don’t you? A news organization talking to a public figure before a debate is not a scandal.

Seriously, why is it so hard to accept that Trump will face hard questioning?


113 posted on 03/04/2016 11:45:46 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

You do realize that coordinating an attack on a candidate by so-called neutral moderators is unethical, don’t you?


114 posted on 03/04/2016 11:47:10 AM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: xzins

Coordinating with whom? Who are you alleging coordinated with whom?

What evidence is there?

You aren’t making any sense. News people talking to other political people in order to formulate questions for a debate is their job, not an ethical abuse.

Seriously. What could they ask about that was not at some point said by some other person that has some opinion about one or another of the candidates? If it’s unethical and an abuse of journalistic practices to do that, then you might as well shut down all of the news channels.


115 posted on 03/04/2016 12:01:33 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

I am saying the entire pre debate coordination was by opponents of one candidate, and it included Romney. Surely you don’t think that’s ethical.


116 posted on 03/04/2016 12:31:19 PM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: xzins

I’m pretty sure they prepared questions for all of the candidates.

And there is no evidence that Romney was present at Fox News production meetings. And if he was, so what?

You do realize Romney is not a candidate, right?

You are mad that Fox News didn’t genuflect to your candidate. That doesn’t make it unethical for them to prepare tough questions for him.


117 posted on 03/04/2016 12:35:03 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
I will guess we are talking about the obsolete definition of debate here? de·bate (dĭ-bāt′) v. de·bat·ed, de·bat·ing, de·bates v.intr. 1. To consider something; deliberate. 2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points. 3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument. See Synonyms at discuss. 4. Obsolete To fight or quarrel. v.tr. 1. To deliberate on; consider. 2. To dispute or argue about. 3. To discuss or argue (a question, for example) formally. 4. Obsolete To fight or argue for or over. n. 1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument. 2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate. 3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition. 4. Obsolete Conflict; strife.
118 posted on 03/04/2016 12:41:57 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: SoothingDave

So, you think partisan attacks from fake neutral moderators is ethical?


119 posted on 03/04/2016 1:52:12 PM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: xzins
Why did Trump respond? Trump ALWAYS responds. He established that long before the ‘penis’ comment by Rubio.

Not very wise IMO. There are times when the proper response is to say nothing. A person with good self-control resists the temptation to speak out at every provocation. You might want to review the Book of Proverbs - Solomon told us that it is the fool who can't control his tongue.

I’ve never heard the ‘hands and penis’ thing that Rubio says is ‘what everyone says’. I heard ‘feet’ in that regard. I wonder what kind of circles Rubio runs in???

Apparently, the same circles as Trump because the Donald knew what Rubio was talking about.

120 posted on 03/04/2016 2:08:59 PM PST by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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