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No, Conservatism Should Not Embrace Populism
National Review ^ | November 26, 2016 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 11/27/2016 12:38:58 PM PST by EveningStar

Populism? No thanks.

I am not now, nor will I ever be, a populist. Evidently, that separates me from a growing number of commentators, including some conservatives, wistfully engaged in Washington's latest fad: over-interpreting Donald Trump's victory in the 2016 presidential election.

The normally sensible Mike Lee, Republican senator from Utah, took to our pages to plead the case of "principled populism" -- which is akin to calling for a sober Bacchanalia. Not surprisingly, Senator Lee's brief doesn't get very far before strangling in its own illogic, as odes to populism inevitably do. The "characteristic weakness" of populism, he tells us, is the lack of "a coherent philosophy," which inevitably makes its "proposals" (I'd have said "careenings") "inconsistent" and "unserious." Well, yes . . . that is because populism is inherently unprincipled, inconsistent, and unserious, such that arguing for "principled populism" is so much nonsense.

Lee, a very smart guy, is anything but nonsensical. He is clearly trying to exploit Trump's supposed populist moment for conservative ends. In his telling, "principled populism" becomes a menu of conservative proposals "focused on solving the problems that face working Americans in a fracturing society and global economy." I'm all for the menu, but that's not "principled populism"; it's conservatism -- or, as Lee unnecessarily modifies it, "authentic conservatism."

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TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: andrewcmccarthy; andymccarthy; conservatism; mikelee; moron; nationalreview; populism; principledpopulism; shoveit; stephenmoore; stupidpeople; trump
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To: loveliberty2

That’s a keeper. Good stuff...


41 posted on 11/27/2016 1:52:20 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: EveningStar
Conservatism does not work for Conservative. It only seems to work for the Chamber of Commerce and corporate types. It might work if brought into public policy but with all of the demographic changes going on that is not likely to happen. Since the the corporatists refuse to buy conservative media and have brought in millions of undocumented Democrats just to fill their needs for cheap labor. And since they have not even eliminated or defunded one liberal program or agency it looks like we have nobody to blame but them. Since it is their fault I don't see why it is anything but appropriate to ask them to pay the taxes along with their limousine lib friends to pay for the mess that both of these people created. If that is populism so be it. They have nobody to blame but themselves.
42 posted on 11/27/2016 1:56:28 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: EveningStar

To neoconservatives and their globalist allies, pro-American policies are populist.


43 posted on 11/27/2016 2:00:29 PM PST by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: x

Heller decision on the Second Amendment, followed by the McDonald decision, to add to your list.


44 posted on 11/27/2016 2:03:16 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Alberta's Child

The post-1994 changes in the national political conversation were far more dramatic than anything the GOP came up with when that dope George W. Bush was the president.


They occurred while the establishment media was figuring out what happened and makeing the decision to become the concious, full on propaganda arm of the Democrat party. It took the last 20 years to grow the new media enough to overcome the establishment media overbearing control of the information flow to voters.


45 posted on 11/27/2016 2:08:15 PM PST by marktwain
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To: EveningStar

Populism is a meaningless term to denigrate people we love that the establishment hates. If Trump has an ideology it’s nationalism, which is why the phony conservative globalist establishment hates him.


46 posted on 11/27/2016 2:09:37 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: DanZ

I have renounced your wish list
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I am thinking that auto correct changed “renumbered” to “renounced”, nicht var?

Anyway, it is not a wish list but an list of his actually promises from his campaign speeches during the primary campaign.


47 posted on 11/27/2016 2:10:01 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Taking donations from wealthy corporatist elites and using the ‘Conservative Movement” as a propaganda machine to support the Republican Party Establishment.

Nigel Farage spoke again recently about his admiration for Reagan and Thatcher but how he saw politics become the story of big business, big banks and big government working together against small business and the individual.

The “Conservative Media-Conservative Movement” is mixed in with those forces and the talk show hosts I suspect will pull out the long knives to deal with Donald Trump first chance they get if he threatens the Corporatists.


48 posted on 11/27/2016 2:10:14 PM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: x

One thing that occurs to me is when measuring gains are we speaking in terms of seizing new ground or reclaiming old? The left has been able to boast of wins that are truly gaining new ground (phag marriage, pot legalization, expanded and federally funded abortion, etc) while our victories are all in reclaiming ground previously won by the left.

It makes their gains appear more substantial than ours.


49 posted on 11/27/2016 2:15:52 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: EveningStar

For at least a few decades now, conservatism has meant one thing and one thing only.

That thing is to drop trousers and bend over for the pleasure and profit of the DNC in private, while running their spunk sumps with lies about how their opposing the destructionists in public.

Dishonorable and degenerate.


50 posted on 11/27/2016 2:35:39 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Populism to me means AMERICA FIRST what the HELL is wrong with ANY CONSERVATIVE or ANYONE for that matter thinking this way????


51 posted on 11/27/2016 2:41:10 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: EveningStar

Populism is when the status qou of a political class is universally rejected by the ruled. Whether the political class supports it or not is pretty much irrelevant. Most political classes never see the populist wave coming and get swept off the beach before they know it. The astute politician breaks out the surf board and jumps onto that wave (like Trump) to ride it out until the energy behind the wave is dissipated.


52 posted on 11/27/2016 2:50:33 PM PST by Gen-X-Dad
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Conservatives have done very little since 1995. Now those claiming to be “conservatives” but in reality are nothing more than Republican Party hacks have done a lot. A lot of compromising to the liberals and in most cases out right capitulation to them.


53 posted on 11/27/2016 3:23:23 PM PST by sarge83
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To: KyCats

Agreed, what would NRO know about true conservatism. They sold out as conservatives when Buckley died. They are nothing more than Republican Party partisan hacks looking out for themselves and their owners, the chamber of crony commerce. They could care less about the country just their egos and checking accounts.


54 posted on 11/27/2016 3:28:22 PM PST by sarge83
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To: EveningStar
Oh, goody! yet another link from the traitorous, pro-Hillary, anti-Trump, neo-con, RINO scumbags at National Review.

Honey Badger don't give a shit about anything National Review says anymore, and wishes people would quite posting NR links here.


55 posted on 11/27/2016 3:45:52 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: be-baw

Thank you.


56 posted on 11/27/2016 3:54:25 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: EveningStar

Conservatism shouldn’t embrace National Review


57 posted on 11/27/2016 4:08:53 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Right versus left is no longer as relevant as Nationalist versus globalist.)
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To: EveningStar
Why can't there be a conservative populism in which conservative positions and principles are conveyed to the public in an appealing and popular manner? It ought to be taken into account that Trump ran on a GOP platform that was the most conservative since Goldwater. If that is GOP populism, then bring it on!

Instead, what Andrew McCarthy seems to have in mind is a conservative frame of mind and rhetorical style that echo evangelical calls to repent and to turn to the true faith derived from Constitutional scripture and the Federalist exegesis of the founding era. This take-your-medicine approach though rarely works well outside of its natural base of white evangelicals.

58 posted on 11/27/2016 5:05:25 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Cen-Tejas

Finally, I get to his last sentence which worries about “statism” employed by Democrats vs statism employed by Republicans. Well, that’s nice Andy but when the nation is sliding off the fn cliff your hair splitting pontifications seem as blissfully irrelevant as your employer’s ignorant opposition to Mr. Trump turned out to be.
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I totally agree, and well said.


59 posted on 11/27/2016 6:51:08 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Time for the 'TRUMP 2020' yard signs)
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To: DoughtyOne

Trump kicked your ass.

Now shut up.
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That’s what I call getting right to the point. Good job!


60 posted on 11/27/2016 6:56:46 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Time for the 'TRUMP 2020' yard signs)
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