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1 posted on 12/08/2017 6:46:10 AM PST by simpson96
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This is a perfectly fine change.


2 posted on 12/08/2017 6:50:23 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Our government, who art in control of everything, hallowed be thy name . . . give us this day our daily bread, and free health care and free housing and . . .


3 posted on 12/08/2017 6:51:19 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Always nice to find someone who is a better writer than God.

/Sarc


4 posted on 12/08/2017 6:51:41 AM PST by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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Makes sense to me.

The line that has bothered me the most has always been “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.” I’d like to be more forgiven than I am able to forgive others. I’ve always wondered if that was an accurate translation or if it was more along the lines of “Help me to forgive others the way You forgive me.”


5 posted on 12/08/2017 6:52:18 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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Allah is proudly proclaimed to be The Great Deceiver.

Is he trying to insult Muslims?


6 posted on 12/08/2017 6:52:45 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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I for one still feel uncomfortable with updated version of the Nicene Creed and find myself reverting back to the old way.

This pope seems intent on changing whatever he can, no matter how trivial or substantial.

Marxist.


7 posted on 12/08/2017 6:53:34 AM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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If he’s not speaking ex cathedra he’s just having diarrhea of the mouth.

And he’s not speaking ex cathedra.


10 posted on 12/08/2017 6:57:23 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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Pope Francis is to Catholicism what a man who’s never sailed is to the Navy.


12 posted on 12/08/2017 6:58:11 AM PST by relictele
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I finally agree with this pope on something.


13 posted on 12/08/2017 6:58:32 AM PST by windsorknot
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Sounds okay, but I would like to get the opinion of some linguistics and lexicographers.................


15 posted on 12/08/2017 6:59:06 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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The word in question comes from the Greek word, eisphero which means to bring or lead into. So we are left with the way we learned it. Lead us not into temptation. How are to understand that? James writes that God tempts no one. And so “we pray in this petition that God would guard and keep us, so that the devil, the world and our sinful flesh may not deceive us or lead us into false belief, despair and other great and shameful sins; and though we are tempted by them, we pray that we may overcome and win the victory.” So leave Jesus’ words alone Mr. Pope. Just teach them correctly.


16 posted on 12/08/2017 6:59:12 AM PST by uscga77 (the truth remains)
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I always thought the phrase was “lead us not to Penn Station.”


17 posted on 12/08/2017 6:59:25 AM PST by Cowboy Bob
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“prevent me from harming myself”. It sounds like “Stop me before I kill again”.


25 posted on 12/08/2017 7:03:27 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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I would offer what I think is a better change:

As it is: And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil;

Change it to: Lead us away from temptation, and deliver us from evil.


29 posted on 12/08/2017 7:04:23 AM PST by Wuli
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Is the pope Catholic?

Uh, don't know about that.

30 posted on 12/08/2017 7:04:36 AM PST by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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I recall a translation that went something like "do not put us to the test."

I often think of what deeper meaning there is to words I memorized as a child. I'll stick with "lead us not into temptation."

34 posted on 12/08/2017 7:06:08 AM PST by Oratam
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With all that is wrong with the world and Catholicism, this is what concerns the Pope? I’ve put him on ignore long ago.


35 posted on 12/08/2017 7:06:47 AM PST by JonPreston
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Latin: Ne nos inducas in tentationem.
Do not lead us into temptation.
Greek: kae mê eisenenkês hêmas eis peirasmôn.
The words mean “lead.” That’s what they say.

Was the author not paying strict attention to the root meaning of the words, and meant “don’t let us fall into temptation”? Probably. But the words don’t say that.


36 posted on 12/08/2017 7:06:48 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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It’s the thought that counts.


38 posted on 12/08/2017 7:07:59 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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Why is this pope’s lapel pin a pentagram with an embossed goat’s head?


45 posted on 12/08/2017 7:20:06 AM PST by Eddie01
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