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GRUESOME NSFW VIDEO: FATHER, SON SHOOT BAT-WIELDING NEIGHBOR DURING HEATED SHOWDOWN
infowars.com ^ | SEPTEMBER 20, 2018 | Abilene Police/Star-Telegram

Posted on 09/20/2018 6:15:29 PM PDT by papertyger

A Texas father-son duo are charged with murder after a dispute with a neighbor over a mattress turned deadly, shocking video shot by the deceased man’s wife appears to show. Warning – Graphic Footage: Viewer discretion strongly advised

In video of the Sept. 1 incident released Wednesday, Kara Box captured her husband Aaron Howard arguing over trash in their Abilene alleyway with next-door neighbors John Miller, 67, and his son Michael Miller, 31. “We had thrown out a twin mattress in a dumpster in our alley a few days before the shooting,” Box commented on the video, according to The Star-Telegram. “You have to have the mattress in the dumpster or they will not haul it away.”

Box says the Millers grabbed the mattress out of the dumpster and threw it on Howard’s property, sparking a shouting match between the neighbors. “Michael Miller who lives with his father ran went inside their home and got a shotgun,” The Telegram wrote in a Sept. 2 article following the incident. “Someone went into Howard’s home and retrieved a baseball bat.” The showdown ended with Howard shot after he stepped forward following a threat from Miller, who warned, “If you come within 3 feet of me, I’m going to kill you.” The Millers were arrested later that day. The Telegram reports they have since posted a $25,000 bail.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 1stdegreemurder; aaronhoward; abilene; alley; banglist; box; donotremovetags; goobers; howard; infowars; johnmiller; kansas; karabox; mattress; mattresswars; michaelmiller; miller; texas
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To: Secret Agent Man

Judging from the size and demeanor of the victim, and the paltry bail on a murder charge, I think you probably have a valid point.


21 posted on 09/20/2018 6:35:16 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: DiogenesLamp

Don’t see how a murder rap sticks.


22 posted on 09/20/2018 6:35:41 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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To: papertyger

I imagine they claimed he took a swing at the old man with the bat so he responded with his gun. That would seem to be self-defense, especially since the two big-belly rednecks will sing the same song and if the only other witness is Mr. Orange’s widow, who would not be considered to be objective.


23 posted on 09/20/2018 6:38:21 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Lazamataz

Yes, good game plan. Should have retreated and called the police.


24 posted on 09/20/2018 6:39:00 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: papertyger

Infowars is banned here.

Listing snuff films is one good reason.

Infowars is satanic.


25 posted on 09/20/2018 6:39:06 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Yes, good game plan. Should have retreated and called the police.

I mean, maybe they get off these charges, but I suspect they won't. But even if they do, they were in jail for a while and they are facing enormous costs and horrible jeopardy.

26 posted on 09/20/2018 6:40:35 PM PDT by Lazamataz (On future maps, I suggest we remove the word "California" and substitute "Open-Air Asylum".)
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To: ifinnegan
Infowars is banned here.

Not since it was banned from the social media giants it's not.

27 posted on 09/20/2018 6:40:51 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Bigtigermike

“James4:1 What is causing the quarrels and fights among you? Don’t they come from the evil desires at war within you?”

Yep.

And look who is profiting and using images of this to enrich themselves while enticing people to gaze superfluously upon murder, something very bad for the spirit and soul.


28 posted on 09/20/2018 6:41:25 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

I dunno, I think this video has a place here. It allows people to think through outcomes before they have to live them.


29 posted on 09/20/2018 6:41:33 PM PDT by Lazamataz (On future maps, I suggest we remove the word "California" and substitute "Open-Air Asylum".)
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To: Kartographer

There’s just so much wrong with this incident.

I read a book about the Zulu Wars.

The Zulu just couldn’t believe that a puff of smoke and a little hole could kill someone.

Always take a guy with a gun serious.


30 posted on 09/20/2018 6:42:38 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
I don't either. The decedent was very out of control,spittle flecked raging and threatening.

And he had a baseball bat?

Anyone that would f*** with someone holding a shotgun is a mental case, and therefore dangerous just on the face of it.

31 posted on 09/20/2018 6:43:51 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ifinnegan
And look who is profiting and using images of this to enrich themselves while enticing people to gaze superfluously upon murder, something very bad for the spirit and soul.

I'll look after my own spirit and soul, thank you very much.

32 posted on 09/20/2018 6:44:05 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Trailer Park Boyz”


33 posted on 09/20/2018 6:45:29 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: papertyger

Saw it earlier, dude should/could have walked away. That was flat ugly murder.


34 posted on 09/20/2018 6:45:36 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: papertyger

Deadly force over trash is not worth it.


35 posted on 09/20/2018 6:45:38 PM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: bigbob
I imagine they claimed he took a swing at the old man with the bat so he responded with his gun. That would seem to be self-defense, especially since the two big-belly rednecks will sing the same song and if the only other witness is Mr. Orange’s widow, who would not be considered to be objective.

I noticed the video didn't show the actual shooting or what the big Orange guy was doing when he was shot. I would conclude he was doing exactly what the guy with the gun told him not to do, and that was advancing too close in a threatening manner.

36 posted on 09/20/2018 6:45:58 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: blueunicorn6
Dead over a mattress in a dumpster.
Beyond senseless. The best neighbors are no neighbors if possible.
37 posted on 09/20/2018 6:46:15 PM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, rescue a pit bull.)
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To: papertyger

Who in Sam Hill would pull TWO bedbug infested mattresses out of a dumpster?


38 posted on 09/20/2018 6:46:34 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: papertyger

I thought Infowars was verboten on FR.......


39 posted on 09/20/2018 6:46:58 PM PDT by Red Badger (Q..........................Future Proves Past..............WWG1WGA.....................)
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To: papertyger
“You have to have the mattress in the dumpster or they will not haul it away.”

Actually they will, but the prices are pretty high. It looks like you have a choice between a flat fee of $67 or $41 an hour for the truck and crew.
http://abilenetx.gov/business/city-fee-schedule/fee-schedule#solidwaste

Looks like it would be cheaper to hire a Mexican with a pickup truck. Or at those prices, cut it up an throw a bag's worth in the garbage every week.

Apparently, several neighbors share a 300 gallon container, so if he filled it up with the mattress there was no place for the shooter to put his household garbage that week. (Curbside customers get individual 96 gallon rolling carts) http://abilenetx.gov/city-hall/departments/public-works/solid-waste-services/collection-services

40 posted on 09/20/2018 6:47:00 PM PDT by PAR35
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