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Can You Help America?
Self ^ | 11/30/2002 | B4Ranch

Posted on 11/30/2002 8:03:21 AM PST by B4Ranch

Can You Help America?

Are you willing to give five minutes or more of your time to think about a solution to a very costly problem that exists in every State in the Union?

If you listen to Rush Limbaugh on TV or on his radio show, you will hear him discuss how dumb and ineffective Democrats can be. He has been saying that the Democrats are only good at whining about problems, not at fixing problems. Rush says the Republicans are the only party that actually fixes problems. Do you believe this? FreeRepublic.com is overflowing with Republicans isn't it? I propose that the Republican FReepers attempt to find a solution to this major problem and demonstrate to America just how effective Republicans (and FReepers) can be.

In the early 1960s, approximately 62,000 illegal aliens came across the Mexican border, and the INS considered this notable and worthy of action. Now, in the first decade of the 21st Century, hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens enter the United States across the Mexican border each year and the INS declares the problem too big to tackle because nothings stems the tide. Federal immigration laws state that sneaking into America without going through the INS Border Patrol stations is illegal. Hiring an illegal alien is illegal. Sheltering an illegal alien is illegal. And keeping knowledge from law enforcement as to the whereabouts of an illegal alien is illegal. With Agenda 21, the politicians are looking at every way possible to give those who break these laws a pass by granting amnesty and American citizenship to illegal immigrants. Agenda 21 means effectively removing the borders between Mexico and the US. NAFTA just opened our roads to tractor trailers from Mexico. This situation will become much worse.

This problem has been ignored in just about every city and county in America while costing exorbitant amounts of taxpayer dollars, spent on social welfare and the education of illegal aliens. Ignoring this problem also comes with the cost of an increasing crime rate resulting in too many American citizens being victims at the hands of illegal aliens. Governments at all levels, federal, state and local are not protecting America's federal nor State sovereignty,. nor are they protecting American citizens.

Why should you and I support a federal lawbreaker in our State? So an incumbent politician can get reelected with their illegal vote? I don't think so!

Matricula consular identification cards are solid identification of an illegal allien. If you can't show a birth certificate, a Visa or a green card then you are an illegal alien who has broken our immigration laws. They must leave America and reenter within our laws. We shouldn't have to amend our laws to accommidate lawbreakers! What example does that set for those who are attempting to enter America legally? Much more important: What example does this give our children? That breaking the law can be a rewarding act? If our immigration laws carry no penalty for being broken, why should bank robbery, or molesting children be punished? Do we make our laws for them to be ignored by aliens and politicians? Is a vote more precious than our standards and ideals? Our politicians must believe so, judging from their responses.

The words "protect the people" are found in virtually every Oath of Office taken by elected and appointed officials in the US, including the police chiefs, mayors, county sheriffs, state legislators, governors, congressional representatives, and senators. Sadly, not one of these officials on the public dole is taking their Oath of Office seriously when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration.

The Supreme Court of the United States has wisely ruled that the Feds cannot force state, county or city law enforcement officers to enforce federal laws (including immigration laws), and our local and state officials use this as an excuse to turn their heads on the problem of illegal immigration while our communities slide steadily downhill. Government officials continue to demand higher taxes to keep the illegal immigration problems under "control" yet we can only sit back in wonderment as they pay lip service to the problem while actually enacting legislation and policies that encourage people to emigrate to the US illegally with promises of social welfare and education benefits.

Being an American is a primarily a state of mind for all of us - being a proud American is based on the idea of freedom and self-reliance. We are all immigrants from one country or another, and we (or our forebears) became Americans by consciously subscribing to these ideas. We came here legally, we obey the laws and we promote the idea that others obey the laws in the same way. Are we supposed to sit and wait while the political class comes up with the politically correct so-called solutions that fail to keep America strong and our families safe?

How many foreign college students choose each year to stay in America rather than obey the conditions upon which they entered America? How many older vistors choose to stay at the end of their vacations? How many deported criminal aliens return using a different name? How many Muslims are in America illegally studing our open way of life, just waiting for an opportunity to repeat 9/11? I am sure we have illegal aliens from every country in this world enjoying the American lifestyle, helping to bring us down to a third world power. We aren't too far from becoming the country that these people left. The American culture can only absorb so many new residents each year without radical changes. We have passed that number. We must act now before the policical leaders offer them amnesty and permanently defeat our way of life. The time has come to stand up and fight for what we believe in. The Constitution will become wastepaper. The Bill of Rights will become a memory. Our flag will become a symbol of defeat.

If you have listened to Rush, you know the truth of his broadcasts. If you haven't listened to him, here's an opportunity for you to show how good FReeper Republicans can be at finding solutions to our nationwide illegal immigration problems.

So tell us, what should be done to fix the problems of illegal immigration in your community?

#1. Should we acquiesce and allow the illegal immigration to continue while waiting for the elected officials to address the problem in a substantive way?

#2. Should we wait for Federal legislators to compromise our security and way of life by resolving the problem in a manner that is politically correct and acceptable to every nation in the world?

#3. If we continue to send snail mail and email letters to your local and State leaders. Will the roar be ever loud enough to be heard in the highest offices? What will their response be? Submition to illegal immigrants who want to change America forever?

#4. Should we wait until you fly off the handle and lash out at an illegal alien, surely resulting in legal problems that will further harm your family and ruin your life's ambition to be a good and loyal American citizen?

#5. Should you ignore the illegal immigration problem and hope it will go away before it gets much worse?

What should YOU do?
What should WE do?

It is time to stand together to correct this problem. You are the leader in your family. Your kids look to you to protect them. If you don't help us now, will your children be able to look at you with pride or shame in five years. It's your freedom and your way of life that is up for grabs.

It's your choice, you decide what to do before it is too late.

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The new way of life


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and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

(citizens!)

The flag is the symbol of our national unity, our national endeavor, our national aspiration.

201 posted on 12/01/2002 6:50:56 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: calawah98
I happend to be in Dallas a couple of years ago. As expected, all low-level jobs at the hotel were held by Mexicans. Judging by their looks, quite fresh in the country - can't say whether legal or not. The funniest experience I had at a conference center on the last day of my stay there. We had to check out off our hotels and drop our luggage at the conference center to pick it up in the afternoon when heading for the airport. The 'luggage attendants' were a bunch of Mexican boys, none understanding one word of English. The conference center had hired interpreters to work with the boys to translate to them what it meant when the customer would point to some bag and say things such as 'this is my bag, may I have it please?'
202 posted on 12/01/2002 6:53:04 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
What hotel were you staying at?
203 posted on 12/01/2002 6:55:40 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
The scene I described was at the conference center, not at the hotel. The center is, I believe, the newest one. Construction was still taking place behind it.
204 posted on 12/01/2002 6:58:41 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator; B4Ranch
The NRA does this, if I am not mistaken.

Exactly! Americans for Immigration Control and The Federation for American Immigration Reform need to get together and mail out "immigration ratings" of candidates/incumbents on yellow postcards (the NRA-ILA uses orange).

Also, let's get a copy of Michelle Malkin's book Invasion in everyone's hands.

205 posted on 12/01/2002 7:02:51 AM PST by RFP
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To: RFP
IMHO We need Michelle Malkin to head the INS and the Border Patrol. Then if the lady says she needs 25 million bucks to cure the problem we need to demand that Congress give it to her tomorrow.
206 posted on 12/01/2002 7:07:43 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: RFP
Excellent idea.
207 posted on 12/01/2002 7:12:12 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
That would have been the ideal tme to question why people who didn't speak English were being hired to protect your luggage. I'm sure you had a laptop lots of company research papers worth thousands of dollars with you.

I presume any well dressed person could have said "this is my bag, may I have it please?" then got into a car and driven off.

I probably got a couple of busboys dismissed at a local restaurant last evening when my wife and I went out for dinner. After dinner, I asked for the manager. When he came over, I gave him a piece of paper asking if all the employees were here legally and would he mind having me return tomorrow with a sign saying that "XXX Restaruant has illegal aliens working on the diningroom floor. Be careful with your purses, Ladies. These boys broke Federal laws, State laws are nothing to them." He told me that he would verify their legality and if they didn't have Visas they would be dismissed at the end of the shift.

I told him that wasn't necessary. What I was looking for was for him to hire legal employees and not support criminals. He agreed with me that if they weren't legal he would replace them by next weekend. I said Thankyou, that we enjoyed the dinner and would certainly be back next weeekend.

It was a good evening. A bit of polite conversation with the management regarding national security, fine food and fine wine and a lovely lady to enjoy the eveing with. What more could a man ask for?

208 posted on 12/01/2002 7:27:19 AM PST by B4Ranch
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We Need YOUR HELP!

209 posted on 12/01/2002 7:35:33 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
I sympathize with your effort to save our country.

However, I've given up on this topic. Just like Rome, we have rotted from the inside, and we deserve the invasion. We deserve the unassimilating flood of other cultures that we have asked for. Ever since Americans have decided that any culture is just as good as any other culture (a consequence of amorality and relativism) we were doomed.

Any of the Mexican, Central American, Middle Eastern, Filipino, Chinese, Haitian, or Jamaican immigrants I have known would quickly tell you I am far from being anti-immigrant or disrespectful of people from other cultures, yet whenevr I speak up about immigration, I am branded as a xenophobe by Democrats, a statist by Liberterians, and a "Bush-basher" by Republicans. Nobody seems to want a sane and enforced immigartion policy. A tiny minority of politicians harp on it, and they are promptly destroyed by the political elite.

So be it - open wide the gates! We deserve it!

Colin Powell wants to bring in 15 million more Muslims into the country, even though statistics show that of those immigrants, 15,000 of those would be active, revolutionary terrorists, and 150,000 would be terrorist sympathizers. And that's a number that could snowball, if the militant Muslims make headway. Yet Colin Powell is sacred, and cannot be criticized, because he is Republican and associated with the Bushes.

It's ironic, because I love those immigrants who I have met. I love meeting people from other cultures, and seeing how they think, and interchanging ideas with them. Yet the same people that criticize you and me and others for being concerned about the destruction of our economy, our culture, and our national security from perverse immigration policies, are the same ones that will probably go on a rampage and start killing those immigrants when things get worse. Damn, self-righteous hypocrites, too many Americans have become!

210 posted on 12/01/2002 7:45:44 AM PST by agrandis
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To: B4Ranch
You are right. We do not need to surrender. We can preserve our country. Fight political correctness mind control. Do not celebrate diversity when it means turning a blind eye to immorality, laziness, etc. Speak the truth every chance you get. Getting carried away here.
211 posted on 12/01/2002 7:52:21 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Bahbah
No you're not getting carried away. You should be just getting started!
212 posted on 12/01/2002 7:56:01 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: agrandis
It is time to stand together to correct this problem. You are the leader in your family. Your kids look to you to protect them. If you don't help us now, will your children be able to look at you with pride or shame in five years. It's your freedom and your way of life that is up for grabs.
213 posted on 12/01/2002 7:56:57 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Everybody should know by now that I favor severe penalties for all those who hire illegals.

But I would like to comment on a statement.

Being an American is a primarily a state of mind for all of us

I certainly agree with this statement since a country named America doesn’t appear on any map that I have seen. As a matter of fact, those illegal Mexicans are as American as we are since Mexico does appear on the North American continent and Hawaii doesn’t. However, Hawaiians are U.S. citizens and are consequently legal while Mexicans may only be here with the knowledge and approval of the United States government. Also, anyone who hires them without the knowledge and approval of the U.S. government is breaking the law just as bad or worst than the Mexican. IMHO they are worse.

Anyway, we should stick to the facts and not make any mystical states of mind prerequisite for being here.

214 posted on 12/01/2002 8:07:00 AM PST by al_possum39
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To: wirestripper
The lawyers simply say that the company was not aware of the violation.

what about "ignorance of the law is no excuse...."?

215 posted on 12/01/2002 8:19:36 AM PST by 1john2 3and4
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To: al_possum39
I don't want to get too far off the subject of the thread here. When someone asks what nationality you are. Do you reply, a man (presumptuous of me) or do you say, I'm a citizen of the United States of America, or a citizen of Alabama and a resident of Huntstville. I doubt it. You probably say, "I'm an American" and the person recognizes that you are from somewhere in the US. I would doubt that they would presume you are from Mexico or a Canadian.

Did you just get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning or are you like me, naturally a pain in the butt and always grumpy.

216 posted on 12/01/2002 8:20:06 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: 1john2 3and4
"ignorance of the law is no excuse...."?

Nice term! My Momma used to say it, all through my formative years.

The point is, forged documents will get you a job with little employer concern.

217 posted on 12/01/2002 8:27:33 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: B4Ranch
Did you just get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning or are you like me, naturally a pain in the butt and always grumpy.

My wife says that I'm all of the above.

218 posted on 12/01/2002 8:29:29 AM PST by al_possum39
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To: al_possum39
Mine too and she won't trade sides of the bed either, so it's not my fault.
219 posted on 12/01/2002 8:38:49 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Colin Powell wants to bring in 15 million more Muslims into the country, even though statistics show that of those immigrants, 15,000 of those would be active, revolutionary terrorists, and 150,000 would be terrorist sympathizers. And that's a number that could snowball, if the militant Muslims make headway. Yet Colin Powell is sacred, and cannot be criticized, because he is Republican and associated with the Bushes.

This is the type of rhetoric, (post#210)(silly, I might add) that mis-directs a rational conversation on immigration. It makes my point that I made in our correspondence last night, and it causes people to become irritated, so that little or nothing is accomplished.

This is what I try to stay clear of. It is not civil, nor is it factual.

220 posted on 12/01/2002 8:42:42 AM PST by Cold Heat
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