Posted on 04/25/2006 5:59:59 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
The dirty little secret among liberals is that MOST of them believe that President Bush either knew about 9/11 in advance and Let It Happen On Purpose (LIHOP) or Made It Happen On Purpose (MIHOP). I say this is a dirty little secret because few of the establishment liberals will admit this in public even though this is what they actually believe. Try talking to a liberal in person and lead the conversation around to who was behind the 9/11 terror attacks. It won't be long before most liberals will proclaim that Bush could have prevented it but just let it happen on purpose OR that he was the real instigator of those attacks. That is what they say privately. Yes, it sounds KOOKY which is why establishment liberals in the MSM and in government keep a lid on such crackpot conspiracy theories. The far out lefties in this DUmmie THREAD titled, "The Left establishment's attack on 9/11 skeptics," confuse this reluctance to discuss 9/11 with an attack. Sorry DUmmies but most of those establishment liberals actually AGREE with you but they don't want the public to view them as kooks. Also when the regular leftists publicly discuss how Bush was behind 9/11 it embarrasses the establishment liberals and makes them fearful about how such nuttiness will affect them at the polls. I mean, you think Jim McDermott or John Conyers don't actually buy into the 9/11 conspiracy theories? Of course they do but they want to avoid the topic in public for fear of properly being branded as kooks. So let us now watch the DUmmies attack the Left "establishment" in Bolshevik Red for squirming at the mention of 9/11 conspiracy theories while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who is firmly in the IHOP camp of conspiracy theories, is in the [brackets]:
The Left establishment's attack on 9/11 skeptics
["Please don't embarrass us by spouting conspiracy theories that we really believe in but won't publicly admit."]
Soon after revelations concerning Bush administration prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks ("Memogate"), a number of well-known media "liberals" and "progressives" launched a heavy-handed series of broadsides against independent 9/11 researchers who had been developing alternative theories in response to the deeply flawed and fraudulent official story. Why would they do this, at precisely the point that the Bush administration was clearly sweating bullets and in deep trouble?
[Because even though the liberals really do secretly buy into your conspiracy theories they don't want you to embarrass them by publicizing such kook theories. They know they would also be tainted by the kook brush.]
This question is particularly important in light of the fact that the anti-conspiracy critics have not been able (nor apparently willing) to articulate their own theory of what happened on 9/11 (and why) which can explain the devastating evidence and contradictions that have been exposed by independent researchers. Instead of offering a credible explanation, the gatekeepers merely saw fit to pathologize 9/11 skeptics as "paranoid conspiracy nuts" and "a danger to our movement."
[Shhhhh! Please don't tell people the kooky 9/11 conspiracy theories that we privately believe in. We are therefore forced to write you off as "paranoid conspiracy nuts" in public.]
Not surprisingly, the rank and file didn't buy into the hype—nor were many convinced by the gatekeepers' offhand, passionless calls for an official investigation. Interest in alternative 9/11 reporting continued to grow, and by the time that members of 9/11 victim's families began publicly demanding an end to the government coverup and even mainstream media outlets such as the NY Times were admitting that the lack of an independent investigatory commission was "extraordinary," the Left media gatekeepers backed down and adopted a new tactic of silent stonewalling and tacit support for the official story.
[If we say what we really believe we will be written off as kooks. Therefore we have adopted the silent stonewall mode as we PRETEND to support the official story.]
"Silent stonewalling" and removal of any discussion from "polite" circles, thus many if not most remain uneducated? I'm beginning to think we really are a danger to "their movement".
[And you are CORRECT. You are a danger to the liberals who want to get back in power by saying out loud what they really think in private. They know that if they say what they REALLY think about who was behind 9/11 (BUSH, BUSH, BUSH) then the public will write them off as being as kookie as the DUmmies.]
What possible reason would they have to come out that vehemently against 911 researchers, unless ...they aren't really democrats or they're DLC or gatekeepers, I've read that about David Corn. And Pacific radio really screwed Michael Ruppert over although his 911 show had the highest numbers on it , I think, ever, I'm not sure , but it had high numbers so that wasn't their motivation. Many "democratic" groups" have been taken over, it's scary.
[You still DON'T GET IT. David Corn and Pacific radio are all far left but they know that to publicly admit that they really think like you, that Bush was behind the 9/11 terror attacks, that they would lose all credibility. Therefore they have to distance themselves from you...in public.]
I think they are deathly afraid of questioning 9/11. The media has to take the lead...and they seem disinclined to independently investigate. There don't want to look like McKinney. Without investigatory control of committee's, there is no chance to bring it before Congress. Asking questions from the outside would bring forth a torrent of ridicule by the Republican Press. Maybe that will change if we get a majority in Congress.
[BINGO! You nailed it: they don't want to look like McKinney even though they really do believe in your kooky 9/11 conspiracy theories. And the torrent of ridicule won't come from a fictitious Republican Press, it will come from the PUBLIC. And as you stated at the end, the Democrats will be free to let loose in public with their kooky 9/11 conspiracy theories and become a party of Maurice Hinchleys if they win in November.]
Frankly, I have little faith that even with Democratic control of the house that a genuine investigation of 9/11 will ever occur. I mean, it ought to happen. It is desperately needed. But are people really ready to expose the beast, the genuine criminality that weaves its way through so many of the wealthiest and most powerful people on Earth? Are people ready to stand up to these criminals and face them down once and for all? I want to be hopeful but it isn't easy.
[The Mark of the Beast will be exposed but only if the Democrats win in November so they are free to say out loud what their private kooky 9/11 conspiracy theories really are.]
I know, the media is owned by a handful of corporations who benefit from the arrangement they have with this evil administration. What I don't get is the democrats unwillingness to say anything. Is it just because they don't want to get " McKinneyed"? or are they protecting something. The same questions I asked when Kerry wouldn't come out about election fraud. Did he make a deal? Did he just not want to get further swiftboated? Or is that silly sounding Skull & Bones stuff true?
[It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Mama T, at her exclusive Georgetown private parties, spouts the SAME 9/11 conspiracy theories as the DUmmies but in public her Boy Toy knows he has to keep mum on the subject...for now.]
9/11 was an atrocity carried out by specific members of our government. They need to be brought to justice. Germany survived and so will we.
[Spoken like a true MIHOP DUmmie. But remember, the establishment liberals can't publicly admit they agree with you...for now.]
I don't know if things have ever been this bad, though Germany was stopped, who's going to stop us? Sorry to be so negative, but that is what I think lately. I don't know how things have gotten so bad. Maybe they always were and other administrations had the ability to hide reality. The truth has got to come out about this and I just don't see how it is going to.
[Maybe the TRUTH already did come out (Al-Qaeda caused the 9/11 terror attacks) but you just didn't recognize it.]
I'm only just visiting this planet. I know when I first got here my first reaction was to scream bloody murder for all the PAIN that saturates the atmosphere of this otherwise quite stunning little planet. H20 is such an amazing element and in such abundance here. Don't you just love the way the white billowing clouds shimmer with glistening colors at certain times of the day? I just can't get over it. And the trees! I met someone online just a while back who confessed that he'd never hugged a tree. He is a Christian, or so he said, although I'm quite certain he's on our side. We were on team speak. He is back East and I am out West and there is probably 30 years or so between our ages. Knowing that I'm an "old hippie" and that I live here in California, he asked me if I was a tree huger and I had to admit, I am. He laughed, quite astounded, as if he'd never met one before, only heard about them as a sort of myth. I said, "What! You mean you've NEVER HUGGED A TREE!!??" And he admitted he had not. I was truly astounded; how can anyone with a beating heart and a breathing soul NOT want to hug a tree? He asked me, "Well, what is so great about hugging a tree?" Astounding, I tell you!! I had to say, "Well, it isn't simply hugging 'a tree', you understand, it is wrapping your arms around an axis mundae; it is embracing the local representative of a cosmic principal; it is to touch a great living being that is far more ancient than ourselves." I think he was somehow impressed by that.
[Enjoying your Acid Trip? Now back to reality...]
I have been in this dilema for sometime since the veil came off. Maybe it was more personal to me-because I once lived in NYC and worked at the WTC and well, damn it, (high drama I know) it could have been me. It's not remote. It's my own government. And what do I do about it? It's not denial, it's fear. I admit my fear. It's a good place to start. Afterall, fear and propaganda initially got me to support the Iraq war. Which is what lead me to 9/11. Every good lawyer tells you that "if they lie about one thing, feel free to assume they could be lying about anything." And with every day and every revelation this is a stone cold fact.
[MI-HOP over to the Rubber Room.]
I've only been to NY once in my life but I don't think it makes any difference. Look what happened -- is happening -- to New Orleans and the Gulf coast. The death and destruction could spread. Global war is a very real possibility and if the 'terrorists' we are creating right and left can't get it together to attack us to keep the American citizenry fighting for their very lives, then I'm sure there are covert operatives owned by more local interests that would be happy to move things along. None of us are safe so long as criminals are in charge of our national security apparatus. All of our lives are in danger. Most people think I'm being a bit histrionic, and understandably so. Still, when you let people get away with mass murder and you let them get away with stealing hundreds of billions of dollars and you let them get away with covering up arguably the biggest crime of this new century (so far), then why should they stop there?
[Thank you, Chicken Little, for that "Sky Is Falling" rant.]
Since when is the 9/11 forum strictly a 'conspiracy' forum anyway? I don't recall it being that way when it first started. It ought to be a forum for 9/11 news reporting, stories of the victims, and so forth - in short, it ought to be a forum for -anything- relating to 9/11. I am wondering why it isn't. I am researching a number of things, among them 9/11 and its links to crime networks in the U.S., and I am not finding much here that is helpful in that regard. I do think the original mission of this forum has been misinterpreted.
[Even Skinner won't allow the 9/11 forum posts to appear on the DUmmie GREATEST page. He wants to keep such kooky conspiracy theories a dirty little secret in DUmmieland even though the VAST MAJORITY of DUmmies are already firmly in the MIHOP camp.]
This forum doesn't even show up on the Latest page anymore when anyone posts a thread.
[Skinner's primary purpose is to get Democrats elected and publicizing these kookie conspiracy theories harms that goal (even though he personally believes in such wacko theories).]
You can fool some of the people... but, you can't fool them all. And, the soma does wear off over time.
[The DUmmie who posted the Tree Hugging reply obviously had a soma OD.]
Isn't this the line Bill Clinton used on Monica (and every thing else in a skirt)?
SD
KERRY BETRAYED (MY PURE HEART)
Tune: "Expressway (to Your Heart)"
I've been tryin' to tell DU for a long time
Because constantly it's been on my mind
I was thinkin' 'bout an excuse I could make
But it seems like I made a mistake:
I was wrong
I worked too long
I got caught up in the power
But it started to go sour
When he lost the election
Just like he loses his direction!
John Kerry betrayed
My pure heart!
Man, did he fade
And look how we paid!
That Kerryspeak is much too clouded
Much too clouded, so clouded
No more for me (too clouded)
Oh, too clouded. . . .
I hadn't seen your 12 when I did my 38. Oops!
You know, I haven't really watched any of this stuff about McKinney. I just read about it here. I really thought these photos of McKinney were photoshopped until I watched the latest video of McKinney. Boy, was I wrong. No photoshop here! ;)
MIHOP is built on nothing, yes,
But still my rage is bottomless;
I dare not trust what Bush may claim,
But wholly place on him the blame.
On Bush's watch all this was planned,
"Al-Qaeda's" just some sleight of hand.
When buildings fell on 9-11,
I knew this stunk to highest heav'n.
That famous crashing airplane shot
Was filmed upon a movie lot.
On Bush's watch all this was planned,
"Al-Qaeda's" just some sleight of hand.
His Rice, his Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove
Support Bush in this web they wove.
When soon they take us all away,
My tin foil and MIHOP will stay.
On Bush's watch all this was planned,
"Al-Qaeda's" just some sleight of hand.
This HAS to be a Lousy Freeper Troll. Doesn't it?
Moon-batty,
Wilder than an ant,
I'm laughing at this rant
I read.
Oh, you DUmmie,
You're too FUnny;
Can't tell if you're jokin'
Or smokin'
Some weed.
Tin-hatty,
Off in la-la land,
Conspiracies so grand
You weave.
You're angry, you seem quite annoyed,
Sitting unemployed--
You're rather paranoid--
Moon-batty,
BELIEEEVE!
Rule #1 of debate: First one to haul out the "Nazi" charge loses.
I see that the thread got some replies before it was baleeted... me wanna see!
You might begin by . . . PRODUCING SOME EVIDENCE!!!
HEL-LO?!
Is that you, Marshall Applewhite?
You were the guy with the squeegee, weren't you?
You talking about Clinton?
Aha! It was . . . A PERFECT ROVIAN STORM!
Precisely. You nailed it.
I need to make this my tagline but it's a bit too large:
"Well, it isn't simply hugging 'a tree', you understand,
it is wrapping your arms around an axis mundae; it is embracing the
local representative of a cosmic principal; it is to touch a great
living being that is far more ancient than ourselves."
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