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Mr. Obama Refuses To Show He Is Constitutionally Qualified To Be President
Vincent Gioia's Blog ^ | March 2, 2009 | Vincent Gioia

Posted on 03/02/2009 5:31:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Barack Obama has hired an army of lawyers to prevent access to records that may show he is constitutionally unqualified to be president of the United States. Doesn’t that seem odd to you?

The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

A California lawsuit seeking documentation from Occidental College that could verify the nationality under which Barack Obama entered the school has been filed by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation, which has brought a lawsuit on behalf of Ambassador Alan Keyes over Obama's eligibility. Defense lawyers for Obama are trying to quash the request for Occidental records, arguing that any objections to Obama's presidential candidacy and victory should have been raised in Congress at the time of the Electoral College vote. However there was an effort to raise the question with the Electoral College but the court refused to intervene. Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama's eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama's citizenship but his case was denied.

As part of the suit filed by USJF, a subpoena was served on Occidental College for its records. School officials immediately contacted lawyers for Obama and said the demand would have to be answered unless they intervened. Obama's lawyers then submitted a demand to the court arguing the case was moot because the election was over and the correct place to resolve such concerns was in Congress now and challenges should have been made to the Electoral College who confirmed Obama’s election as president. [But as pointed out previously such an effort was timely made but was rebuffed.]

Papers filed on behalf of USJF also cautioned: "If MR. OBAMA is not constitutionally eligible to serve as President of the United States, then no act that he takes is, arguably, valid, the laws that he signs would not be valid, the protective orders that he signs would be null and void, and every act that he takes would be subject to legal challenge, both in Courts of the United States of America, and in International Courts, and that, therefore, it is important for the voters to know whether he, or any candidate for President in the future, is eligible to serve in that office."

Obama has refused to document his U.S. citizenship and as a result his eligibility to be president under the Constitution's requirement for a "natural born" citizen, have been challenged in court.

"MR. Obama’s actions to block any attempt to inquire into his status as a 'natural born citizen' raises questions which must be answered in order to avoid a situation where, perhaps several years in the future, it is discovered that he was not eligible to serve as President of the United States, and, therefore, all of his acts would be null and void, and that the resulting chaos could lead to a constitutional crisis, immobilizing the United States," the USJF said.

Obama supporters have all along stated that his birth certificate was posted on the internet web site. However the "Certification of Live Birth" which was actually posted doesn’t confirm a birth location. "[Hawaii] statute 138 allows foreign born children of HI residents to get HI [Certificates of Live Birth] and get them based on a statement of one relative only. While Hawaiian officials confirmed a birth certificate exists, they did not exclude the possibility it was "one obtained for a foreign born child." It is also noted that in Obama's immigration to Indonesia at age 5 he was considered an Indonesian citizen.

In addition to the USJF law suit, many other suits have been filed and all are documented in various article posted on the internet, including several described by WorldNet Daily. Some of the lawsuits question whether Obama was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. Some suits contend that if he was born out of the country and some contend that Obama's American mother was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth. This would make the father a dual citizen. However the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Although Obama could settle all questions about his eligibility to be president by simply producing his birth certificate or authorizing others to do so; instead, a series of law firms have been hired on Obama's behalf around the nation to prevent any public access to his birth certificate, passport records, college records and other documents.

Obama has refused to document his U.S. citizenship and, therefore, his eligibility to be president under the Constitution's requirement for a "natural born" citizen.

What do you conclude from this?


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1 posted on 03/02/2009 5:31:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can you imagine the outcry that would have happened so long ago had this been a Republican? The person never would have made it past the primary.


2 posted on 03/02/2009 5:35:42 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He has shown, however, that he is morally and intellectually unqualified.


3 posted on 03/02/2009 5:36:51 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep. I was a skeptic early on because there was no way the democrats could be so stupid and nominate someone who couldn’t serve. I assumed it would all be cleared up before the election and Zero would be proven eligible.

That obviously hasn’t happened and the democrats show an ever more blatent disdain for the constitution and the people it represents.


4 posted on 03/02/2009 5:38:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: beaversmom

Keep up the pressure.


5 posted on 03/02/2009 5:38:30 PM PST by NowApproachingMidnight (Sell the left short this cycle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One day soon, someone who can do something about this, such as leaking information on some record somewhere, will become angry enough about the destruction of our country and economy that he will act.


6 posted on 03/02/2009 5:38:33 PM PST by ducdriver (Judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: LucyT; STARWISE

Ping


7 posted on 03/02/2009 5:40:23 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: LucyT; STARWISE

Ping


8 posted on 03/02/2009 5:40:24 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The strange thing is, how is it normally done? How does one go about proving eligibility to be elected to any federal office? There must be some standardized procedure, just to verify everything's in order . . . ., you know, crossing your "t"s and dotting your "i"s, stuff.

What is it? Does anyone know?

9 posted on 03/02/2009 5:41:15 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: jeffc

We once had a free press.


10 posted on 03/02/2009 5:42:20 PM PST by ducdriver (Judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: cripplecreek

Nobody had the balls to call him on it, for fear of being labeled a racist.


11 posted on 03/02/2009 5:45:01 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The fact he has spent close to a million dollars (or so I’ve heard) in fighting the release of ANY of his records (birth, scholastic, passport, et al) suggests to me he definitely has something to hide.


12 posted on 03/02/2009 5:45:46 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: jeffc

I dunno. John McCain was born in Panama. He released his actual birth certificate for all to see.


13 posted on 03/02/2009 5:46:32 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: beaversmom

>>>Can you imagine the outcry that would have happened so long ago had this been a Republican? The person never would have made it past the primary.

Well, there are those that claim that being a natural born citizen requires birth on US soil, which would disqualify McCain. See the case of D’onfrio vs. Wells, which argued being a “natural born Citizen” requires meeting both of two criteria: (1) citizenship must be passed on by the constitutionally pertinent principle of natural law, which assumes that citizenship is inherited from one’s father’s citizenship, and (2) citizenship must be granted by means of being born in the actual territory of the United States.


14 posted on 03/02/2009 5:48:58 PM PST by nc28205
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To: ought-six

Can you imagine the “Presidential Library” he will build (if allowed) that will have NOTHING in it about his “pre-Presidential Past”? It won’t take up much room...


15 posted on 03/02/2009 5:54:58 PM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: ducdriver

It appears to me that the reason The One is moving his agenda so fast and pushing so hard for everything he wants is that if he’s declared ineligible to be POTUS, all the crap he’s enacted so far will stand for the balance of his term. After that, the next POTUS, hopefully a Pub, will reverse all of The One’s BS.


16 posted on 03/02/2009 5:55:43 PM PST by NCC-1701 (DRILL NOW. DRILL OFTEN. DRILL 24/7/365. PAY LESS. SUCK THE GROUND DRY.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thus far, his desire to keep his BC (if one truly exists in Hi) secret has more weight than the Constitution of the Unite States.

Whether he is a natural born citizen or not, that scenario in itself is an outrage.


17 posted on 03/02/2009 5:56:01 PM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thus far, his desire to keep his BC (if one truly exists in Hi) secret has more weight than the Constitution of the Unite States.

Whether he is a natural born citizen or not, that scenario in itself is an outrage.


18 posted on 03/02/2009 5:56:58 PM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: Know et al

Sorry for the double post. It didn’t look like it posted the first time.


19 posted on 03/02/2009 5:58:01 PM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: jeffc
What is it?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Two things:

1)Previously the proof was self-evident. Armies of relatives, neighbors, and friends could testify to the family and candidate's standing in the community. These people were witnesses to the mother and her newborn in the community.

Since Obama can not provide self-evident evidence, he should be required to provide other evidence ( birth certificate, as well as, school, immigration, adoption, passport travel, and repatriation records.

2) Moral integrity...but no more.

It is impossible to write enough laws to control an immoral people. In the end, the success of our republic rests upon the good will and honesty of its citizens. The Marxists in our nation's schools, media, entertainment, and arts are quickly driving a stake through the heart of morality.

20 posted on 03/02/2009 5:58:14 PM PST by wintertime
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To: nc28205

bump to that


21 posted on 03/02/2009 5:59:54 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: nc28205

Well one big difference between McCain and Obama is that McCain was very forthright with all his records as I recall. We know where he was born. He released his medical records. BO is a big mystery man.


22 posted on 03/02/2009 6:00:12 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What do you conclude from this?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I conclude that we must pressure our states to pass laws requiring hard proof that a candidate is constitutionally eligible.

If states do this, Obama will develop an odd illness, need more time with his, family and not run for a second term.

23 posted on 03/02/2009 6:06:03 PM PST by wintertime
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


24 posted on 03/02/2009 6:13:25 PM PST by Lokibob (When handed lemons...Refuse to sign for them. Life's lemons can't be delivered without a signature.)
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To: nc28205; All

You are correct! And McCain was actually born in an “unincorparated territory” of the US and was “ineligible” as I have read the information contained in “Zapem’s Blog.”

As far back as February 2008, the Senators Obama, Clinton, Menendez, McCaskill, Coburn (R), and Leahy introduced legislation or a ruling to “qualify” and state that McCain was “natural born.” He is NOT!

These Senators are COMPLICIT in the fraudulent election which took place in November of 2008.

Read the info. I don’t have the link but google this title as it reads: “Obama Knew He Wasn’t Eligible For POTUS.” You will get the article from Zapem’s Blog.

They should ALL be charged with treason and tried.


25 posted on 03/02/2009 6:14:22 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 ("Don't Tread On Me!")
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To: All

NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE, NO PEACE!!!!


26 posted on 03/02/2009 6:14:38 PM PST by patriot08
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To: Jet Jaguar
I dunno. John McCain was born in Panama. He released his actual birth certificate for all to see.

Then again, John McCain's birth certificate did not document a birth from a bigamous marriage.

My guess is that the State of Hawaii may have listed Obama's mother as "Single" and that the name on the original birth certificate may have been "Barry Dunham".

27 posted on 03/02/2009 6:14:59 PM PST by Polybius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

28 posted on 03/02/2009 6:15:32 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am a proud "BIRTHER". Thank goodness the threads are getting back up to frequency they were at a few weeks ago.

All you truth diggers out there, keep up the good fight!!!! Bless you.

I wish I could do as much as you do. You may be our best, last hope.

29 posted on 03/02/2009 6:16:45 PM PST by IrishPennant ("We're surrounded...That simplifies our problem.")
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To: Polybius

John McCain was born in an “unincorparated territory” of the US, therefore, he was also ineligible.

Google: “Obama Knew He Wasn’t Eligible For POTUS” and you’ll see the info on him as well.


30 posted on 03/02/2009 6:26:16 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 ("Don't Tread On Me!")
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To: IrishPennant

“BIRTHER” Bump!


31 posted on 03/02/2009 6:27:28 PM PST by Golden Gate
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To: Joe Marine 76

That’s “unincorporated”... Spell Check is my friend.


32 posted on 03/02/2009 6:29:27 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 ("Don't Tread On Me!")
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To: RebelTXRose

It will belong in the back seat of an old rusty Buick, sitting on cinderblocks, with no wheels and the glass all busted out don’tchaknow.


33 posted on 03/02/2009 6:32:58 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Polybius
Barry's attorneys have pled that disclosing his original BC would cause such a degree of embarrassment that it would cause actual harm, thus he should be allowed to keep it hidden. Just being a bastard isn't all that embarrassing.

Think a more twisted reason, like actual birth father is Davis or Malcolm X, or Stanley Ann was not the actual birth mother, Toots was ... or--and this is my choice--included with his BC on file are the adoption papers from Indonesia and he never re-acquired his U.S. citizenship and used his other nationality to obtain passport and perhaps tuition favors, etc.

34 posted on 03/02/2009 6:38:57 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Know et al

If you could only get the Obama worshippers to realize that and become dissatisfied over it, Amerika could be saved!


35 posted on 03/02/2009 6:40:25 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree! When someone hides something, they have something to hide.


36 posted on 03/02/2009 6:42:36 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Joe Marine 76

And hanged as the traitors they are!


37 posted on 03/02/2009 6:43:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Hahahahhaha...how about Farley being the Obama Presidential Librarian in a "Van down by the river"?


38 posted on 03/02/2009 6:49:46 PM PST by IrishPennant ("We're surrounded...That simplifies our problem.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


I noticed that on older U.S. Census forms (this one from 1870) that the "constitutional relations" was considered important enough to record.

Column 18 could apply nowadays as well...
39 posted on 03/02/2009 6:51:42 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot (Those who lack a needle on their moral compass can say anything and not see a problem with saying it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released July, ‘08.

The security breach involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has
earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies.

At the time of the breach, Brennan was working as an unpaid
adviser to the Obama campaign.

The files may contain additional information including “original copies of the associated documents,” the report added. Such documents include birth certificates, naturalization certificates, or oaths of allegiance for U.S.-born persons who adopted the citizenship of a foreign country as minors.

Following the breach, State Department managers met with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph Biden, whose committee has oversight over the Foreign Service and the passport office. Biden was sworn in as Obama’s vice president on Jan. 20, ‘09.


40 posted on 03/02/2009 6:53:37 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (Stay together. The Opposition inserts itself to divide.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep.


41 posted on 03/02/2009 6:53:39 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: MHGinTN

“... hanged as traitors...”

DITTO!


42 posted on 03/02/2009 7:03:58 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 ("Don't Tread On Me!")
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To: SvenMagnussen

Textbook Quid Pro Quo.


43 posted on 03/02/2009 7:04:00 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: Joe Marine 76
John McCain was born in an “unincorparated territory” of the US, therefore, he was also ineligible.

John McCain is not "natural born", because he was born at the Coco Solo U.S. Air Base. Any pregnant Panamanian woman could have been driven on base and dropped her kid there.

John McCain is "natural born" because both of his parents were U.S. citizens and they were overseas because his father was an active duty U.S. Naval officer defending the United States of America. THAT is what makes John McCain "natural born".

Obsessing about geography and ignoring parentage would make the son of two al Qaeda operatives planning to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge eligible for the Presidency because his mother popped him out in New York City the day after the bridge blew up but the son of a wounded U.S. Medal of Honor recipient would not be eligible for the Presidency of the United States because he was born at Landstuhl Army Hospital in Germany while going to see her wounded husband.

44 posted on 03/02/2009 7:26:56 PM PST by Polybius
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To: NCC-1701

I don’t think so. If he’s not legitimate, then anything he signs is invalid. It seems that by now they could have invented a good forgery, however. Perhaps he’ll show it soon enough, but so much time has elapsed, it’ll be likely a forged document. He should not have delayed this.


45 posted on 03/02/2009 8:19:52 PM PST by ducdriver (Judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama supporters have all along stated that his birth certificate was posted on the internet web site. However the "Certification of Live Birth" which was actually posted doesn’t confirm a birth location. "[Hawaii] statute 138 allows foreign born children of HI residents to get HI [Certificates of Live Birth] and get them based on a statement of one relative only.

I think that the standard Obamite response to the "Statute 138" argument is that it was not in effect when Obama was born. Even if that is correct, there was probably a similar statute in effect. All states have to deal with resident mothers who give birth abroad, who want for their kids to have clear documentation of American citizenship. Did Obama's mother use Hawaii's 1961 solution to that problem?

Obama has still not produced a birth certificate that names the hospital where he was born, or that shows the printed name and the signature of the doctor or midwife who delivered him. If he was not born in Hawaii, that documentation will never be available. If he was born in Hawaii, that documentation should be immediately available, and it should long ago have been released to the public.

It is just astonishing that this controversy is still unresolved, and that so few people are trying to resolve it. This seems like a variation on the Emperor's New Clothes fable, that is missing the little boy. In this version, everyone agrees that the Emperor's clothes look fabulous, and the story ends.

46 posted on 03/02/2009 8:27:30 PM PST by TChad
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To: SvenMagnussen
Could this be the generated crisis Biden warned us about? He knew that Obama wasn't eligible and knew it would eventually come out? And just as a side note, John Brennan, President of The Analysis Corporation, has been selected by President-Elect Obama to serve in his Administration as Homeland Security Advisor and Deputy National Security Advisor for Counterterrorist....very interesting.
47 posted on 03/02/2009 9:00:21 PM PST by Ashviadan
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To: MHGinTN
Barry's attorneys have pled that disclosing his original BC would cause such a degree of embarrassment that it would cause actual harm .....

Do you have a link that confirms that?

That would confirm my theory that the real reason that the birth certificate is being hidden is that it would expose Obama as a race hustler that figured out that, in Politically Correct America, "Barack Obama", the son of an African, has a political advantage over "Barry Dunham", the son of a white, single mother.

Do I believe that the birth certificate cover up has to do with Obama being foreign born?

No, I don't, although many on FR might vehemently disagree with me.

I am sure that the FBI, under the Bush Administration, has checked this out. Running for the Presidency if you are ineligible would have been a Federal crime and the Bush Administration would not have just sat there with it's head up it's arse. It would have been on that like a pitbull on a pork chop.

However, although it is a Federal crime to violate the Constitution, it is not a Federal crime to play The Race Card.

So, the original birth certificate of "Barry Dunham", the son of a white, single mother will remain hidden because "the original birth certificate would cause such a degree of embarrassment that it would cause actual harm" to the hyped persona of "Barack Obama".

That is my theory until I am proved wrong.

Who among us has an original birth certificate that "would cause such a degree of embarrassment that it would cause actual harm"?

Only those of us with something to hide.

48 posted on 03/02/2009 9:20:35 PM PST by Polybius
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To: ought-six
The fact he has spent close to a million dollars (or so I’ve heard)

Don't believe everything you hear. Often, such as in this case, it's not true.

49 posted on 03/02/2009 9:57:49 PM PST by curiosity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
However the "Certification of Live Birth" which was actually posted doesn’t confirm a birth location.

Yes it does. Either this woman is illiterate, or she hasn't even looked at the COLB. It very clearly indicates Honolulu as the location of birth.

50 posted on 03/02/2009 10:00:20 PM PST by curiosity
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