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Alinsky vs. Sun Tzu: How ancient strategy can be used against the Liberal Left.
The Constitutional Alamo ^ | 09/19/09 | Michael Naragon

Posted on 09/19/2009 2:33:22 PM PDT by Publius772000

In 2009, Saul Alinsky has been discussed in such a matter-of-fact way that many casual observers have heard of him. The following is a list of Alinsky’s 12 rules for upheaval:

RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” RULE 12: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Of these, Rules 4, 5, 8, and 12 have been used to greatest effect by the Left. In their war against the Constitution and traditional America, they have assailed, in turn, most of the great foundations of our society. They have removed God. They have made abortion mainstream. They have helped the tiny minority of gay and lesbian activists dictate policy to the majority. They have made millions dependent on government through social programs such as Social Security, Medicare, and now federal control of automakers, banks, energy, and health care. Granted, some of these Leftist changes took place long before Alinsky, but his principles have been widely used by the 21st century brand of so-called progressives who look to take the next step.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: acorn; alinsky; suntzu; teaparty; theleft
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To: Publius772000; shibumi
“Standing on the defensive indicates insufficient strength; attacking, a superabundance of strength.”

“The onrush of a conquering force is like the bursting of pent up waters into a chasm a thousand fathoms deep.”

Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Attack, Attack, Attack!

Attack and overwhelm like the bursting of pent up waters.

21 posted on 09/19/2009 4:35:55 PM PDT by Semper Mark ("The future ain't what it used to be." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Publius772000

bookmark


22 posted on 09/19/2009 4:40:02 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: cripplecreek

I know most of you won’t believe this but recently I picked up a copy of “The 50th Law” by 50 cent & Robert Greene and it’s pretty good. In it he talks bad about the liberals, the mainstream media, and how complacent the blacks became because of the social programs that take away people’s drive to be better. I was quite surprised. Yes he was a drug pusher but I really just read some because of Robert Greene.

http://www.amazon.com/50th-Law-50-Cent/dp/006177460X/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253402618&sr=8-4


23 posted on 09/19/2009 4:40:31 PM PDT by FreeManWhoCan ("By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.")
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To: Publius772000

Alinsky is an ass.

Sun Tzu and Machiavelli rule.


24 posted on 09/19/2009 5:01:58 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Resident Obama: Not a President, not a Citizen, living here but from somewhere else...)
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To: freedumb2003

Everyday, some need to pick a rule and use it on a particular issue...say gather 20 - to go to specific sites and leave a writing on healthcare for 3 days or so, then change it to cap and trade, then .....After 10 days or so, change the tactic...to a different rule but on the same topics...healthcare then cap and trade etc...


25 posted on 09/19/2009 5:10:53 PM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: Publius772000

The president and congress only have as much power as WE let them have!!


26 posted on 09/19/2009 5:12:50 PM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: Freddd

We have let this government have too much power already. The time has come to turn the tide.


27 posted on 09/19/2009 6:26:01 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: Publius772000

RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”


28 posted on 09/19/2009 6:31:40 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Publius772000; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...
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The following is a list of Alinsky’s rules for upheaval, (see article for entire list):

RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”

RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”

RULE 12: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Of these, Rules 4, 5, 8, and 12 have been used to greatest effect by the Left.

"If your opponent [has a hot temper], seek to irritate him. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. Attack him where he is unprepared; appear where you are not expected.” (Book I, Verses 22-24)"

Barack Obama taught a class on using Alinsky principles to keep the nation in chaos. After all, it’s easier to get radical policies enacted during a crisis.

29 posted on 09/19/2009 8:15:29 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

INDEED.

thx for your pings.


30 posted on 09/19/2009 8:24:32 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

You’re welcome, Quix.


31 posted on 09/19/2009 8:27:48 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

Evil can occasionally be clever and sly . . . yet . . . on the whole, I think it’s DUMB.


32 posted on 09/19/2009 8:38:58 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: LucyT

Can I pick Tamerlane over those two ?...;0)


33 posted on 09/19/2009 9:11:21 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Excellent bio of Tamerlane:

http://www.carpenoctem.tv/military/tamerlane.html


34 posted on 09/19/2009 9:28:21 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

TANKS,Lu,,,That was the meanest SOB on earth...;0)


35 posted on 09/19/2009 9:37:13 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Publius772000

There is a fundamental difference between Alinski and Sun Tsu:

The Rules for Radicals is about politics ... verbal rhetoric.
The Art of War is about war ... physical destruction.

Do the math.


36 posted on 09/19/2009 9:49:07 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Joe Wilson was right.)
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To: ctdonath2

What you call verbal rhetoric I believe has been extrapolated into ideological warfare. The sooner that conservatives realize that we are in a fight, not a debate, the sooner we can get to the business of winning the country back.

Rush Limbaugh has said as much in his controversial discussion of the failure of Obama. His policies need to fail. The Democrats will do all in their substantial power to keep that from happening. If that is not a situation requiring tactics, I’m not sure what is.

Obviously, not everything in Sun Tzu is relevant to politics—using fire in warfare, for example—but, just as many business institutions teach The Art of War to their personnel, so, too, does it have relevance to the political arena. Consider the math done.


37 posted on 09/20/2009 12:48:39 AM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: LucyT

When it comes to ruthless military leaders, he definitely would rank at or near the top. Excellent choice!


38 posted on 09/20/2009 6:19:49 AM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: Publius772000

Mark


39 posted on 09/20/2009 6:28:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Thanks for the support!


40 posted on 09/20/2009 4:38:24 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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