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New Obama Military Rules of Engagement:, Don’t shoot back
Backpacker ^ | Jul. 04 2009

Posted on 11/11/2009 6:52:34 PM PST by clove

Recently on ABC television news, one of their videos showed a U.S. Marine hunkered down in Afghanistan complaining on camera that he was not allowed to shoot back when under fire. This situation resulted from Obama’s new rules of engagement from his new Afghanistan commander. General McChrystal explained it to BBC news that they are now advising troops to break off from firefights with the Taliban, "If you are in a situation where you are under fire from the enemy... if there is any chance of creating civilian casualties or if you don't know whether you will create civilian casualties, if you can withdraw from that situation without firing, then you must do so”

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To: VicVega
Combat Reform
141 posted on 11/12/2009 12:44:21 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: BuffaloJack
He's a globalist elite CFR puppet, doing what Obama's puppeteers want: a U.S. military bogged down in Afghanistan, it's Vietnam II all over again.

Finding ways to circumvent the Type 1 ROE will prove to be no easy task.

142 posted on 11/12/2009 12:46:17 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: clove
http://www.combatreform.org/johnpaulvann.htm
143 posted on 11/12/2009 12:50:34 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: clove

dumb if true...any soldier to confirm this?


144 posted on 11/12/2009 12:58:29 AM PST by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: clove

Obama/Osama, the muslim/homosexual/communist PIG clearly wants more of our troops to die.

I hate this sonofabitch.


145 posted on 11/12/2009 1:02:49 AM PST by Levante
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To: TheBattman
there are only two options

Exactly. All in -- or all out.

146 posted on 11/12/2009 1:59:57 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: clove

wasn’t this the case starting months ago?


147 posted on 11/12/2009 2:00:09 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Oh no. That’s not a terrorist attack. The terrorist attacks have yet to occur. I figure they’ll wait until right about September of 2012. There will be a several-city nuke attack (Zero will ‘magically’ manage to not be in any of the target cities, of course) and Zero will declare martial law and unceremoniously TAKE COMPLETE CONTROL of America.

But on the bright side, with any luck, the Mayan predictions may turn out to be correct.


148 posted on 11/12/2009 2:20:47 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: Rick_Michael; 444Flyer; ~Kim4VRWC's~; HollyB; Saoirise; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Candor7; Jet Jaguar; ...

You are damned right it’s true. Afghanistan updates every day on my profile page. Updated 10 minutes ago.
McChrystal’s ROE are there. Make no mistake. He is just as much a part of what is happening to our troops as the sick F*ck that is sitting in OUR HOUSE getting PAID to murder OUR Troops.


149 posted on 11/12/2009 2:41:07 AM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: omega4179

The majority poll takers on my blog:

http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/

Think Obama should be tried for treason first.


150 posted on 11/12/2009 2:48:44 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: clove

Since the foreign-born fraud took office there has never been any mention of “total victory”, “defeat the jihadist enemy of the world”, “Islamic terrorists are the enemies of civilization” etc. This fraud is a danger to every member of the American armed forces.


151 posted on 11/12/2009 2:48:53 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never "free")
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To: AU72

Adtually, my nightmare begins when I wake up.


152 posted on 11/12/2009 2:54:06 AM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: Levante

Let’s see: The 2009 Continental Convention goes into session today, Minutemen militias have been formed, Tea Parties are happening again...I’d say you have lots of company in your hatred of Comrade Obama...half the people in the country think El Presidente is a traitor...and revolution is often a topic of discussion of the Internet.

2010 should be very interesting...Maybe 1775 redux...


153 posted on 11/12/2009 2:56:10 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: thouworm

NOTE THE DATE!!! JULY 2, 2009

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Minimizing+civilian+deaths+becomes+Afghanistan+priority/1752397/story.html
Minimizing civilian deaths becomes Afghanistan priority
July 2, 2009
KABUL — Canadian commanders in Afghanistan received new fighting orders on Thursday which will prevent their troops from shooting at the Taliban if there is any risk of civilian casualties, even if it means allowing the enemy to escape.

The stricter rules of engagement were laid down in a “tactical directive” sent to all foreign forces in Afghanistan by U.S. army Gen. Stanley McChrystal who was President Barack Obama’s recent choice to take over the NATO-led war here.

“The guidance to the troops clarifies that citizens are the centre of gravity and that we should do everything to gain their support and we must do everything to avoid civilian casualties,” Col. Greg Julian, the top U.S. military spokesman in Afghanistan, said in an interview at the International Security Assistance Force headquarters in Kabul.


154 posted on 11/12/2009 2:57:11 AM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: dragnet2
MOHAMMAD MURDERED OUR TROOPS!
155 posted on 11/12/2009 3:02:31 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: machogirl

That’s right.

I don’t know what we can do about it. We would have to take back the House and not authorize any more money so zero would have to recall them all and shut it down.


156 posted on 11/12/2009 3:04:10 AM PST by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: MestaMachine; nutmeg; 444Flyer

?? Do you mean what Nutmeg noted in Post #118 or something else?

444Flyer’s post on John Bernard (#96) caused me to wonder what he was saying recently on his blog.


157 posted on 11/12/2009 3:10:41 AM PST by thouworm
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To: the anti-mahdi

Ditto!

I say a Second American Revolution is our only recourse at this point - Only in a revolution can we ruthlessly purge the “Iron Triangle” of oppression Government, Academia and the Media.


158 posted on 11/12/2009 3:10:48 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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July 2, 2009

"The U.S. commander said, “We made the decision to isolate the compound and not destroy it because we couldn’t confirm if civilians were inside,” The result, one U.S. Marine dead, one wounded, and the Taliban insurgents escaped out the back."

"Before the mission, Schoenmaker, the company commander, said he would practice "tactical patience" as a way to avoid civilian casualties — an issue newly arrived Gen. Stanley McChrystal has underscored in recent weeks. Although troops in many similar circumstances have called in airstrikes on militant-controlled compounds, Schoenmaker did not."

"We made the decision to isolate the compound and not destroy it because we couldn't confirm if civilians were inside," he said.

The Marines, the Afghan soldiers and their British advisers surrounded the compound from the east and the south.

"The militants were believed to have escaped out the back.

Wasn't the back covered?

159 posted on 11/12/2009 3:21:57 AM PST by anglian
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To: anglian

I call BS from July is a hit piece.


160 posted on 11/12/2009 3:24:38 AM PST by anglian
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