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Obama Takes First Step in Banning All Firearms
DefendUSx ^ | November 11, 2009 | DefendUSx

Posted on 11/12/2009 6:01:58 PM PST by opentalk

On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress.

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TOPICS: Government
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To: opentalk

This is what happens when You let an Apparently KENYAN BORN COMMUNIST RADICAL who has stated he “only supports some parts of the U.S. Constitution” hide ALL of His Past, including where he was Born, All of His Medical and Academic Records, All of His Passport and Travel records, All of His Professional Records and Financial Records, Realize He NEVER WROTE HIS ALLEGED “MEMOIRS”, ignored the Fact that ge Never Had a Real Position of Responsibility and Decision making, Ignored that He Campaigned as a US Senator for a Third World Thug and Possible Murderer, and then You Give HIM the MOST POWERFUL and MOST RESPONSIBLE POSITION IN ALL OF THE WORLD’S HISTORY because He is GOOD AT READING A TELEPROMPTER AND OBFUSCATING THE TRUTH!

MAY GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA AND OUR WORLD!!


41 posted on 11/12/2009 6:29:17 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: OldNavyVet

That’s right and if there is a special call at 3:00 am to half a dozen anti-gun Senators they’ll vote on the treaty and ratify it before we know what’s happening.

Then there will be blood...


42 posted on 11/12/2009 6:30:09 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: opentalk

Its DOA if he tries. Treaties are subordinate to the Constitution and cannot override the protections stated therein. They can only be valid within the confines of the authority granted to our government by the Constitution. Plenty of controlling case law on this already exists including the recent Supreme Court smack down ruling in Medillan v Texas 2008. More here: http://supreme.justia.com/constitution/article-2/19-constitutional-limitations-on-treaty-power.html


43 posted on 11/12/2009 6:30:34 PM PST by Mechanicos
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To: StolarStorm
But its just an exercise in fantasy really. No way the Senate would pass such a thing.

Most likely you're right. But what if it's something else like Cap and Trade? Say 10 years down the road gas is $10/gallon, electricity rates have tripled, and there is no more middle class. Do we as citizens just sit there and become a third world country, or do we say "enough!"?

44 posted on 11/12/2009 6:30:36 PM PST by oldvike
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To: Captain Peter Blood

See #42


45 posted on 11/12/2009 6:32:16 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: opentalk

IT'S A HOAX!!

Geez, 42 posts into the thread and no one's bothered to see if SB-2099 exists in this Senate session (it doesn't) and no one's bothered to look on SNOPES.COM to see if this is a hoax (it is, and has been since May of this year.)

What's become of Freepers who knee-jerk react first, and don't bother to look for the facts?

46 posted on 11/12/2009 6:32:47 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: opentalk
There is NO agenda of Øbamoa’s that is in our best interests. The marxists are playing with fire, and like an inexperienced child, they will get burned if they don't stop. Private stockpiles of ammo and firearms exist now. Good luck, Ø, getting them from us without a fight.
47 posted on 11/12/2009 6:32:48 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: StolarStorm

See #42


48 posted on 11/12/2009 6:32:48 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: opentalk

I sure wish I had bought stock in firearms and ammo companies about a year and half ago.


49 posted on 11/12/2009 6:33:50 PM PST by TigersEye (0bama is our first Port of Entry President - I hope he goes home.)
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To: StolarStorm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvf8r3cX3vo&feature=related


50 posted on 11/12/2009 6:33:59 PM PST by silentreignofheroes
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To: Captain Peter Blood
What struck me about this article is that past presidents would not sign on to this.

from article:

The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.

There is a lack of trust with the current administration and our constitution.

51 posted on 11/12/2009 6:36:50 PM PST by opentalk
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To: StolarStorm; pandoraou812

I don’t want to make any secret of it. (not that I could after nine years of posting) Try to confiscate my guns and I will go jihad like no stinkin’ Muzzie ever dreamed of. Can you dig it? Got that copied?


52 posted on 11/12/2009 6:39:42 PM PST by TigersEye (0bama is our first Port of Entry President - I hope he goes home.)
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To: silentreignofheroes

Let the blue helmets come collect........

They’d be more terrified in the backwoods of West Virginia than the jungles of Rwanda.


53 posted on 11/12/2009 6:40:00 PM PST by MiltonFriedmanFan
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To: opentalk

Think 1775 and Lexington Green — only NATIONWIDE!!


54 posted on 11/12/2009 6:40:27 PM PST by Dick Bachert ('08 WASN'T AN ELECTION. IT WAS AN INFESTATION. FUMIGATION HAS ALREADY BEGUN!)
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To: opentalk

bang bump


55 posted on 11/12/2009 6:41:40 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: oldvike

Check out — and join — OATHKEEPERS.
Large number of LEOs and ex-military there.


56 posted on 11/12/2009 6:42:22 PM PST by Dick Bachert ('08 WASN'T AN ELECTION. IT WAS AN INFESTATION. FUMIGATION HAS ALREADY BEGUN!)
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To: opentalk

BS. He’d need 2/3’s of Congress and there would be the resulting lawsuits that would, ultimately, be decided by the SCOTUS.

He can’t sidestep Congress.


57 posted on 11/12/2009 6:43:50 PM PST by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

That is why Obama wants a civilian military that is just as strong, just as powerful as the military because he knows they will not follow all of his evil orders.


58 posted on 11/12/2009 6:44:21 PM PST by mel
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To: opentalk
Suggest a careful reading of Art. VI, U. S. Constitution, which sets out the order or laws , esp, the phrase “which shall be made under the authority of the United States”. In other words, treaties derive their power and acceptance from the Constitution. If this proposal were to take place, it would require the elimination of the 2nd Amendment. That ain't gonna happen, period. Further, NO treaty can supersede the Constitution. Obama may try something otherwise, but he'll run square into an armed populace, if he does.
59 posted on 11/12/2009 6:46:28 PM PST by Southbound ("A liar in public life is worse than a full-paid-up Communist, and I don't care who he is." - HST)
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To: oldvike

All that I have spoken to will do the right thing


60 posted on 11/12/2009 6:49:31 PM PST by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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