Skip to comments.The infiltration of the Libertarian movement by the FAR LEFT
Posted on 02/25/2010 5:04:17 PM PST by The Conservative Monster
I am noticing a rise of leftist, anti-government rhetoric coming from the Libertarian movement that is being portrayed as conservative. They also are trying to portray themselves as conservatives and I suspect they are doing this to splinter and destroy the Republican Party and conservative movement in this country. Ron Paul is a perfect example of this type of Libertarian, that has the foreign policy of an anti-war communist from the 60's.
* When you mention the Iranian threat, they defend Iran * When you mention the Russian threat, they defend Russia * When you mention 9-11, they scream it was an inside job * When you mention that they are left wing, they reply " you are falling for the far left trick/trap of the Hegelian Dialectic, thesis/anti-thesis false dichotomy" * The truthers also spew the same anti-war rhetoric that the 60's communists do. They claim that the 9/11 was staged as a reason for the USA to go to war for oil accusing the USA of 'imperialism'. * The truther movement seems to attract many anti-government, anti- capitalist anarchists and they are not conservatives, but their leaders shout that they are for deception purposes. * The truthers are anti-semitic, anti-Israel and they blame Mosaad for 9/11. * The truthers ignore the overwhelming evidence that links the 9/11 attacks to the Iranians who acted on behalf of the Russians. Many KGB defectors have stated that this is the case, but it has been ignored by the left wing media and THE TRUTHERS. * Truthers love to scream the word fascist, rather than Marxist or communist and this is another tactic that communist front groups often do. * The truthers are anti-police, no different than the Marxists that riot against corporations. Click here for more
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Here, try the comments now, Allegra. Sometimes a thread will get a weird no comments situation, all you have to do to fix it is to copy this (for this particular thread):
If it’s another thread, after the id, put the number of the thread in between the “=” and the “%” and it should be OK.
You fixed it! Now I can ping some folks. Thanks!
fieldmarshaldj fixed it. :)
I noticed the poster “The Conservative Monster” just signed up today on FR.
Thanks for the Ping
Thank you, So Cal Pol!!!
Your article is spot on.
Having talked face to face with PaulBot and dealing with them on FR.
also dealing with Code Pinkos and other Far Left people,
They all have the same talking points.
A PaulBot focus is dividng the Republican Party.
The only winner in that are the Democrats.
The PaulBots and the Democrats National Security and Foreigh Policy are the same basics not to mention some of the social policies.
Except for a few notes of sanity, like Vin Suprynowicz, the LP has pretty much lost it's mind.
Too bad, libertarian philosophy has a lot of good points to recommend it.
Politics is a circle with center/moderate at the 12 o clock position. Mainline right is at the 3 o'clock and mainline left at the 9 o'clock.
Extremist of both sides come back to gather around the 6 o'clock position +/- so they look and act and believe about the same in many regards.
I understand your reasoning, but your logic is incorrect. There are characteristics in the libertarian views that match both viewpoints. Just because they are socially liberal, does not make them liberal. Libertarians are small government, fiscally conservative, pro-Constitution, and socially liberal.
I have heard libertarians such as Ron Paul argue against war, and I have to say that when I heard it, it sounded reasonable. He was not defending Iran or Russia, or even saying war is wrong. He was saying that we don’t have the money for war, and that the only reason we are in so many conflicts is because the federal reserve is generating money out of thin air.
Libertarians are not an extreme of the conservative movement, and I don’t think that there is a conspiracy going on here. I just think some of their viewpoints match both liberals and conservatives.
I DO know that several libertarians are running in Republican primaries (and I can think of at least one running as a democrat) but I don’t think that they have a chance as a Repub or Democrat. I would agree that they are probably trying to enhance their publicity by gaining support from one of the two major political parties. They don’t really have a chance running as an independent.
When Ross Perot ran, I thought for SURE he ruined it for everyone by taking the conservative vote in both of the Clinton elections. However, a poll was done on Perot voters and they were split exactly 50/50 between conservatives and liberals which ruined all of my talking points when I blamed Perot for eight years of misery.
Currently, however, I think that libertarians will take more of the conservative vote than usual for two reasons:
1. When the Republicans were in power, they still spent a lot of money (miniscule compared to Obama, I know), but government spending is this is a big deal right now with the TEA parties.
2. Obama’s birth certificate (I truly believe that this was the catalyst for the TEA parties)
3. People are tired of Washington. Tired of both parties.
I know that it’s odd, but just the way things are. I am not sure it will ruin things for conservatives... it just may shift the party a little more towards libertarian which would not be a bad thing in today’s environment. I think it would increase chances to win against a liberal.
TRAULL = The Rondamentalist Alien Unamerican Libertarian Losers
Who Ya Gonna Call?
TRAULL = The Rondamentalist Alien Unamerican Libertarian Losers
Excellent - I love it!
I do hope I added something to Deb's BRILLIANT idea!
I wanted to share some of my posts with the people on here, because I know that this is a great site. Today was my first post
Thank you, I also have dealt with them in the past. They are clever and they are FRAUDS.
“I am noticing a rise of leftist, anti-government rhetoric coming from the Libertarian movement that is being portrayed as conservative”
Have you noticed the same in the GOP? Not hard to find.
Face it, the left has infiltrated everything in American life.
CPAC sells out? Sodomy, the ACLU, Ron Paul and the conservative movement
The country is being attacked on so many levels I can’t imagine ordinary voters can keep up. Even at FR people are falling for the Libertarian propaganda. Scary.
Maybe we should start a TRAULL Busters ping list to combat the Paulbots ? We surely need ‘em in the Rand “Junior” Paul threads, he’s the most dangerous one at the moment, threatening what should be a safe seat in KY (especially once the Dems unleash against Junior all the Truther stuff from his daddy’s network).
What a ludicrous postulation the subject of this thread is!
Thank you for the alert/ping, allegra! TRALL it is!!!
I have a feeling we'll be using that one quite a bit between now and the elections.
Or at least as long as we have all these TRAULLs among us. :)
I'm all for it. We've got to keep exposing these Libertarians' agenda. They are dangerous to the conservative movement and their intent is to divide the party and therfore the vote, in order to keep giving us garbage like Obama.
LOL. Thanks for telling me! I saw Deb's name pinged and I traced the post, but didn't see the origin past Servant of the Cross.
Well done, Deb!!!
Are we so desperate to clean house of 'career politicians' that we jump on the bandwagon of Debra MEDINA, an unknown ex-nurse with zero experience, questionable judgement and loyalties and who worked on the RON PAUL presidential campaign???
Perry leans too far to the left at times for the taste of most of us, but consider this: Texas is in better shape than almost any other state in the union since it's been under Perry's governorship since 2000!
If we're going to kick him out, we'd better be D*MN sure we know just what we're replacing him with!
Just WHO would we replace him with?
Ron paul/truther nutter Medina?
Trecherous Washington RINO Hutchison?*
MUSLIM FAROUK SHAMI?
Or maybe Lib Bill White?
Nominate Medina and we'll surely turn over Texas to White and the 'rats. She CANNOT beat White.
Perhaps in the future a more Conservative candidate will emerge for Texas, but this time around WE HAVE NO CHOICE.
For God's sake, has anybody really looked into her platform- her background? Has this woman even been vetted?
She wants legalized drugs.
She backs gay marriage.
She has not spoken to her elderly parents for YEARS. They had to find out she was runing for governor of Texas by reading the newspaper!
What does this say about this woman's character?
And rumors are begin to surface about husband Noe's past associations.
Take a look at some of the statements she has made:
"I don't have all of the evidence there, Glenn. I think some very good questions have been raised. In that regard there's some very good arguments and I think the American people have not seen all the evidence there." (When Glen Beck asked her about the 9/11 conspiracy theory)
"Its a shame isnt it, that Republicans continue to ignore Hispanics especially here in Texas?
"Who is going to think more about Latino families? Rick Perry, Kay Bailey Hutchison or me, who has a Latino family?
"Being married, however, to someone with a Mexican American heritage, I certainly embrace the culture.
"I believe we too often get into race when its immaterial. (Obummer, is that you?)
I don't believe for one minute Medina's propaganda about wanting to strengthen the border!
La Raza probably has her in their back pocket!
This idea that Beck (or anybody else) sabotaged Medina is absurd. If you cant answer did the govt have anything to do with the 9/11 attacks? you're not be fit to run for dogcatcher.
Glenn Beck has once again helped the tea-party stay in the Republican mainstreamby by weeding out dangerous fringe thinkers like Medina.
Medina is NOT representative of the Tea Party movement. She USED them- latched herself on to them. Shes a hard core Libertarian who has realized that the Libertarian Party will never win anything and that the only possible way to get herself into office is to do what Ron Paul did and wrap herself in the Republican cloak in hopes that it will fool enough of the voters enough of the time. Thank God Glen Beck outed her in time.
Retrieve your sombrero from the ring and go home Senora Medina. You're Texas toast. . .
* REMEMBER THIS,TEXANS:
Feds Have Built Only 32 Miles of 700 Mile Double-Border Fence Originally Mandated by Congress
One reason DHS has been able to do this is an amendment that Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R.-Texas) slipped into an omnibus appropriations bill that Congress passed on December 18, 2007. Hutchisons amendment put a loophole in the fence law that allowed the secretary of Homeland Security not to build the fence Congress had mandated the year before.
Just kidding. Still some who aren't fronts for the bolsheviks.
Deb is Howard Roark. The rest of us are Peter Keating.
(I know it's an unfortunate reference for a thread about libertarianism)
My pleasure. It seemed like we needed a specific name for these creatures.
I am enjoying basking in the glory of deb’s ‘glow’!
count me ‘ALL IN’.
Now I know what its like to win an Oscar (sniff).
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