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The danger is far deeper than simply Obama...
Forums.Hannity ^ | 03/15/10 | Unknown

Posted on 03/14/2010 8:33:06 PM PDT by American Dream 246

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails them.

Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”


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1 posted on 03/14/2010 8:33:07 PM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

I have said it before, but needs to be repeated:

Between the explosive growth of illegal immigrants, and blacks, the USA has become a victim of “The Peter Principle”.
I do not see it ever returning to be the country that I grew up in.


2 posted on 03/14/2010 8:39:08 PM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: American Dream 246

Truer words were never spoken.


3 posted on 03/14/2010 8:41:25 PM PDT by MGMSwordsman
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To: American Dream 246

“The current system of GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS (aka INDOCTRINATION CENTERS) did not just make Obama possible. They made him INEVITABLE. Unless the process is halted, these institutions will continue to produce hundreds of thousands of new socialist simpletons each year and we will look back at the Obama maladministration as the good old days.” Dick Bachert, 2009


4 posted on 03/14/2010 8:42:52 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: AlexW

I fear that I agree with you. We are over the cliff and plunging to the death of this country. We need a national prayer day - such as a sick out or sit-in, whatever you want to call it, where we bring this country to a complete stand still for one day. That is the only wan to send a message and then - Obama must be kicked out of office on his ass, run out of this country back to Kenya, all money going to D.C. has to be stopped. Federal agencies must be dismantled. That is the only way to get our country back. I’m not sure is voting is going to do the trick.


5 posted on 03/14/2010 8:46:58 PM PDT by Jukeman
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To: American Dream 246
His coming was long foreseen...

September 1, 2008



The Book of Invesco

The Sermon on the Mile High Mount

*SCHNIPP*

5And seeing the multitudes, He went up on a mountain and stepped into the floodlights where they had built for Him a temple, and His disciples gathered around Him. Then He opened His mouth and taught them, saying:

6"Blessed are the poor, For theirs is the kingdom of State expropriated wealth.

7Blessed are the jobless, For the taxpayers shall be their keepers.

8Blessed are those who lost their homes, For they shall inherit a bailout.

9Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for Change™, For they shall be filled with a great taxpayer-funded feast.

10Blessed are all who have grievances, For they shall be compensated through civil rights lawsuits.

11Blessed are the peace protesters, For theirs is the Progressive World of Next Tuesday™.

12Blessed are those one illness away from disaster, For they shall obtain free health care.

13Blessed are our homosexual brothers and sisters, For they shall be married and receive Intensive Family Preservation programs and Family Reunification privileges from the immigration authorities.

*SCHNIPP*

More at:

http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2269


6 posted on 03/14/2010 8:49:52 PM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: American Dream 246
That's exactly right. However, there are some positive trends underway.


7 posted on 03/14/2010 8:50:34 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: American Dream 246
Yes, the problem is a societal-cultural-educational one. We have to "start over" completely in each of those areas or our country is doomed. The education of Truth is the key, starting with the teachings of our Founders!
8 posted on 03/14/2010 8:51:43 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: American Dream 246

9 posted on 03/14/2010 8:52:01 PM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: American Dream 246

10 posted on 03/14/2010 8:52:43 PM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: American Dream 246

This is the result of ignoring God in society and the conditioning of the generations through schools, media, entertainment and the workplace. We are now reaping what we’ve sown. Only God can save us from ourselves at this point.


11 posted on 03/14/2010 8:52:45 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: American Dream 246

Truth rings....but will the people listen?


12 posted on 03/14/2010 8:55:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: American Dream 246
I don't know whether Ann Coulter or Robert Heinlein in Starship Troopers had the better idea about voting.
13 posted on 03/14/2010 8:58:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, the Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: ViLaLuz

Yep!....when a nation turns it’s back on God...history has shown that nation is invaded by people with pagan beliefs or no beliefs at all. Communism had a try...we fought...but this is a double header...Progressives AND Islamic domination.


14 posted on 03/14/2010 8:59:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: AlexW

I tend to agree. But it does not follow that a smaller country, carved from the heartland of the current United States and severed from the grasping greed and indulgences of the parasite urban areas could not form a republic more in keeping with the Founders’ visions.


15 posted on 03/14/2010 9:12:32 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: American Dream 246

BTTT


16 posted on 03/14/2010 9:17:19 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Jukeman

“all money going to D.C. has to be stopped. Federal agencies must be dismantled. That is the only way to get our country back. I’m not sure is voting is going to do the trick.”

Therein lies the key. The Federal bureaucracy is out of control and has been for years. The only way to control it is for the states to assert their rights under the constitution. The flow of money to D.C. will have to be stopped. Problem is even in the face of massive over reaching by the Feds, the people are still relatively complacent.
I don’t know what will finally make the people angry enough to take action, but it has not happened yet. So far all D.C. hears is a little fussing from the peons, which they are obviously ignoring.


17 posted on 03/14/2010 10:01:07 PM PDT by flash2368
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To: American Dream 246

I agree that the voters are as much to blame for this presidency as Obama himself. On the other hand, America has a history of recovering from socialism. For a full recovery, the sting of socialism must be felt by a large number of people, and the economy is what will sting us. That is, if the economy gets bad enough, enough people will say “enough!”. The process will be ugly, probably with plenty of polarization and riots. Some will take sides over ideological issues, others will riot because of their economic situation. The bigger question I have is, “Are we willing to go through the termoil to cleanse ourselves?”


18 posted on 03/14/2010 10:04:03 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: American Dream 246

I have been saying this for months!

Even if BO (God forbid) were to drop dead tomorrow, there are still all those “gimme people” out there! That must be fixed.


19 posted on 03/14/2010 10:21:40 PM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: American Dream 246

One step in the right direction is the Campaign Finance decision from the Supreme Court. Whatever Bush did economically was made up for in the war on terror and his Supreme Court appointments.


20 posted on 03/14/2010 11:06:16 PM PDT by rbbeachkid
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To: Bean Counter

What an interesting picture with Judas sitting in the center...


21 posted on 03/14/2010 11:33:04 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: American Dream 246
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency.

Caligula's horse.

22 posted on 03/15/2010 1:04:58 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: American Dream 246

This is why we need a full four years of Obama’s epic failures. I don’t want this usurper impeached. I want him to fail in a spectacular manner, daily. Otherwise, the greedy and the stupid will fall for the next anti-American socialist who promises to play Santa Claus with other people’s money.


23 posted on 03/15/2010 2:31:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: AlexW
Between the explosive growth of illegal immigrants, and blacks, the USA has become a victim of “The Peter Principle”. I do not see it ever returning to be the country that I grew up in.

I totally agree. The demographic trends are strongly against a future strong, united America. Don't forget the muslims, too. Despite the fact they're only 1.5-2% of the population at present, they breed like rabbits and will explode their population, especially in enclaves like MI and northern VA. Their political power is only going to grow.

24 posted on 03/15/2010 5:54:15 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: mlocher
America has a history of recovering from socialism.

I'm sorry, I may be suffering from a poor memory and/or am ignorant of some significant event(s) in US History -- what are you referring to here?

From my perspective, I see what is happening now as just the most current incarnation of the slow boiling kettle of socialism that was put on the burner by FDR decades ago. It has been heating up, sometimes rapidly when the fire has been turned up, and sometimes more slowly when the burner is turned back down to simmer for a while, since then. And the point that we are at now is a direct result of all of the infiltration and brainwashing that has gone on for decades, all carefully and patiently plotted out. Usually I am an optimistic person by nature, however I don't see how the tides can be turned at this point -- the majority of people in our country have been so thoroughly indoctrinated that they can't even understand that there are so many un-Constitutional problems contained in this health control legislation that they can't even be counted at this point.

How have we ever recovered from socialism? What am I missing here?

(And I am not being sarcastic or facetious, I really hope that someone can show me how we can possibly turn this decades long disaster around.)

25 posted on 03/15/2010 6:24:55 AM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy freedom & liberty!)
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To: zzeeman
what are you referring to here?

Perhaps your explanation is correct. What I refer to is the shift from the socialistic policies from the 1930s to the conservative policies of the 1950s. I also refer to the Carter Catastrophe of the 1970s and the turnaround of the 1980s. Significant economic strangleholds and to a lesser extent freedom infringements were undone.

You are correct. Many people are not as astute as you to see the un-Constitutional problems contained not only in health care, but in many of the proposed legislation in the pipeline. The economy will drive most people's ideology -- not theory, unfortunately. The implication is that to turn things around, the economy will have to get worse.

26 posted on 03/15/2010 7:21:59 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: mlocher
mlocher,

Thank you for your reply, I understand what you are referring to. I think it is a case where both perspectives are right. You have pointed out 2 smaller cycles in which leftist-socialist agendas have been beaten back -- I am grateful for the reminder. But yes, the large "wheel" has been spinning since FDR, and the latest monstrosity of health control will dwarf the rest of those programs in both destructive economic force and loss of Liberty and Freedom.

Many people are not as astute...

Not to quibble on word choice or semantics, but I want to make sure that my point is understood here. When I see the word "astute" I usually think that it means being better educated and/or having a higher degree of education and/or sophistication. I'm not sure if that is how you were using that word or not. To me I see the cause more as the result of brainwashing and indoctrination, over decades, for younger citizens it has begun at birth.

The news and airwaves are filled with "astute" (meaning that they are well educated, highly intelligent, and "sophisticated") people telling the masses how wonderful Obamacare will be and how the best of what is American is about how we take care of our "poor." (Of course one could argue that if they were indeed "educated" properly, they would have been well grounded in the history of our nation's founding and the core principles reflected in our founding documents, and how this unique combination of thought and action formed the most successful form of government that mankind has ever witnessed. But that hasn't been the case for decades.)

Sorry to ramble on about that!

I understand your point about the negative economy being able to catch the attention of the masses. However I am very concerned that the provisions in health control are crippling to the point of pushing our country over the edge. I hope that I am very wrong about that.

27 posted on 03/15/2010 9:15:39 AM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy freedom & liberty!)
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To: zzeeman
I understand your point. By astute, I meant that you are able to effectively start with a set of axioms (truths) that define a system and logically step through the what happens to that system when the system input is modified. You are telling me that many other people do not understand the axioms because of brainwashing, etc. You probably are better educated than most, but you also are more "down to earth" than most and know how to properly apply knowledge. I in no way meant to imply that you were elite or used your knowledge innapropriately. Your gift, by the way, is wisdom!

Obamacare will negatively impact the economy. Unfortunately, it may not be immediate, and when the economy does get worse, there will be some Keynsian economist telling it is because of some reason other than gov't intervention. It will take patience and good communication to connect the dots between Obamacare and a poor economy.

28 posted on 03/15/2010 9:38:40 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: mlocher
Hahaha, your response made me chuckle a bit, which is a lot closer to a laugh than I've been for quite some time. The reason being, I don't consider myself "astute" at all. I actually consider myself fortunate in two regards. One, since I am in my 50s, I was fortunate to attend grammar school (private Catholic) before education was decimated and destroyed in our country. Even though I look back with a bit of regret since I didn't embrace the value of what was being taught then in the areas of history and social studies (truth be told I often thought it was boring and did a lot of "cramming" just to pass the test). But at least I was exposed to what I mentioned in the last response in a, at a minimum "neutral" manner, and most often in a "positive" manner (contrasted with the way our founding and history is often spun in a "negative" manner today).

And the 2nd way in which I feel fortunate is that I started to listen to the Mark Levin show a number of years ago. In fact, if memory serves, I think that I used to hear him on Sunday afternoons on WABC in NYC when (I just learned that) he was doing the show for free, just to get the experience! I have to say that I have learned more about our Constitution (and how it is intended to be used as a permanent guiding force for our government), as well as how to understand what is, and has been, happening in our country over the past several decades, than I ever did in any school course at any level. I know it may sound a bit over the top, and Mark would balk at hearing a compliment like this, but I consider Mark Levin to be a National Treasure. (Here's a laugh that maybe we all can share -- didn't the NAACP call that communist green job czar that was forced to resign, a "National Treasure?" I can't even recall his name, but I am glad to say that I am a citizen that still can understand what a National Treasure means! And can still manage at least a small laugh when I think of the absurdity that we are currently dealing with!)

29 posted on 03/15/2010 10:14:44 AM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy freedom & liberty!)
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To: zzeeman
Thanks. We all need a little levity right now.

I am about the same age as you and went through a lot of the same school experiences as you. My parents instilled a "own your own problem" mentality in me. Further, in college, of all places, I took what I will dub an "economics class for engineers." It was a macro economics class where the professor, a visitor from the UK, showed us the impact of gov't intervention on the economy. These two factors easily drove me to conservatism, which was later strenghtened by my faith.

Take care and I have greatly enjoyed FReeping with you!

30 posted on 03/15/2010 10:46:17 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: American Dream 246

The philosophy of the school room in one generation
will be the philosophy of government in the next.
— Abraham Lincoln —


31 posted on 03/15/2010 1:23:45 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: American Dream 246

Very good! I could not agree more.


32 posted on 03/15/2010 1:25:32 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AlexW
I do not see it ever returning to be the country that I grew up in.

Unfortunately, you are probably right.

33 posted on 03/15/2010 1:27:18 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: caww

“this is a double header...Progressives AND Islamic domination”

Yet they both share the same root. One that reaches deep down into the pit.


34 posted on 03/15/2010 7:16:18 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

From the pit...absolutely...and I fear let loose because our country has lost it’s moral compass, it’s sense of normality, it’s traditions, borders down and languages mixed, with few who come here that care to assimulate...and it grows daily.

We were once unapologetic of our nation and it’s laws “under God”...now our laws are our own devices and are nation is falling....turn your back on God....in time He can and will turn His on us and let the consequences play out.


35 posted on 03/15/2010 8:01:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Thanks to God, we know He is victorious!


36 posted on 03/16/2010 4:51:13 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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