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Roubini On US Downgrade: Bond Market Revolt Won’t Happen
Forbes ^ | 4/20/2011 | Agustino Fontevecchia

Posted on 04/21/2011 2:06:23 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

Dr. Doom Nouriel Roubini gave his views on S&P’s recent outlook downgrade for U.S. government debt, considering it a “reminder” to Washington to do the right thing on Wednesday. Noting that short-term fiscal balance can be restored fairly easily, while long-term fiscal restructuring will require strong political will and will probably have to wait until after the 2013 elections.


Dr. Doom, Nouriel Roubini

It is not every day that perma-bear Nouriel Roubini sounds relatively optimistic on macroeconomic matters. Yet the renowned NYU economist said that “a bond market revolt is not at all easy to engineer in the United States” as “there is no safer asset destination on the planet than the United States, which has the third-longest-running system of government in the world, despite being a young nation.”

With the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the S&P 500 suffering their worst one-day performance in over a month on April 18, there is no doubt that S&P’s landmark downgrade rattled markets. That was no more than a “knee-jerk risk-off wave” that will “pass as people begin to recognize that this rating move will make little if any difference.”

Writing along with RGE Monitor’s Arnab Das, Roubini explains that it is natural that after a massive leveraged asset bubble a country’s public debts would rise substantially, as Keynesian consumption-smoothing mechanisms, financed by borrowing against future revenues and growth, are deployed to redistribute resources among economic actors. “But the flip side of this short-term recovery may be reduced post-recovery potential and actual growth: The larger public debt portends a future rise in taxes on wealth and/or income, which in turn weighs on growth and thereby on fiscal balance,” wrote the economist. (Read Heather Struck’s take Key Question For S&P: Can U.S. Be More Like Europe?).

Interestingly, Roubini says

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1 posted on 04/21/2011 2:06:26 AM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

The 2013 elections? Which ones are those?


2 posted on 04/21/2011 2:19:36 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

I suppose he assumes that Obama will win in 12 and then declare new elections in 13 to make him King. Naturally, in cases like these, he is the only one who gets a vote in the matter.


3 posted on 04/21/2011 3:10:13 AM PDT by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: bruinbirdman

I don’t like or trust this guy. He seems to be a hack for the MSM and is rarely correct in his predictions.


4 posted on 04/21/2011 4:23:37 AM PDT by Errant
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To: bruinbirdman
“a bond market revolt is not at all easy to engineer in the United States” as “there is no safer asset destination on the planet than the United States, which has the third-longest-running system of government in the world, despite being a young nation

in other words, unlike Bear Stearns, the US is really too big to fail, in his humble opinion.

5 posted on 04/21/2011 4:30:43 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Markets don't lie. People do.)
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To: bruinbirdman
“a bond market revolt is not at all easy to engineer in the United States” as “there is no safer asset destination on the planet than the United States, which has the third-longest-running system of government in the world, despite being a young nation

in other words, unlike Bear Stearns, the US is really too big to fail, in his humble opinion.

6 posted on 04/21/2011 4:31:18 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Markets don't lie. People do.)
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To: Errant

Post his big call of the CMO’s in Oct of 07 and how it would destroy housing/banking, No. He has been a bit off his game. That one he called and I remember it being posted here, the market was smoking past 13k...


7 posted on 04/21/2011 4:35:24 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger

Schiff is my go to guy on these things.


8 posted on 04/21/2011 4:37:48 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: taildragger
Mark Faber is the real Dr. Doom. ;)

http://new.gloomboomdoom.com/portalgbd/homegbd.cfm

9 posted on 04/21/2011 4:46:20 AM PDT by Errant
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To: the invisib1e hand

The failure of the US is assured and unavoidable... name one thing working to stop our death... just one?

LLS


10 posted on 04/21/2011 4:53:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: bruinbirdman
there is no safer asset destination on the planet than the United States

You sure about that Doc?

With a tangible asset you may lose some of your investment, but you won't lose everything. And you are not subject to Obama's promise to pay. The us bonds are only as good as the people's faith in the government to pay them. And while Obama may cause religious rapture among some on the left, he inspires no faith to me.

Gold, and other tangible assets, aren't a panacea or the answer to all worlds problems. But they are an alternate safe asset. So if your theory is that the dollar is safe because there is no place else to go, you may need to reevaluate your position.
11 posted on 04/21/2011 5:06:40 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Reminds me of the scene at the end of Animal House

"Remain calm, everything is under control".....

12 posted on 04/21/2011 5:16:31 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: samtheman

I’m sure he mean the 2012 elections — whereby the new congress and President begin work January 2013. Roubini is no MSM hack, no apologist for liberalism at all. And his point is that the US is still safer than a lot of the world’s economies, who have been socialist for a lot longer than we have.

He may or may not be right in this prediction, but he has a good track record.


13 posted on 04/21/2011 5:59:46 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: bruinbirdman
BILL GROSS: Even In A Fiscal Crisis, America Will Not Default
14 posted on 04/21/2011 8:28:53 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Wake up S&P: The U.S. Can't Default on Its Debt
15 posted on 04/21/2011 8:45:11 AM PDT by blam
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To: LibLieSlayer

If we’re out of business, your natural resources aren’t worth half as much. Freedom is self-correcting. We’re the strongest economic engine there is.


16 posted on 04/21/2011 3:38:02 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Markets don't lie. People do.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
It was... today we are on the cusp of destruction... I am not happy about it but I have been in business for 40 years... 37 with my current company... I know what has happened and what most probably will happen... it is going to be brutal. Believe what you will but no one is doing anything to stop it. I pray that I am wrong... many times a day.

LLS

17 posted on 04/21/2011 4:43:40 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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