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How Do They Decide Who Gets Included in the Debates?
Elephant Watcher ^ | April 24, 2011

Posted on 04/24/2011 4:10:07 PM PDT by DeskCaptain

The question of which candidates get invited to the primary debates can be a tricky one. In any given year, the field of presidential candidates is vast. It includes many candidates who have never held office or who have almost no name recognition. It includes some serious candidates and likely frontrunners. And it includes a lot of candidates who fall somewhere between....

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TOPICS: Politics; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: debates; duncanhunter; elections; freepressforpalin
With the republican primary debates coming up, should be interesting to see who they'll let in, and who they won't.
1 posted on 04/24/2011 4:10:11 PM PDT by DeskCaptain
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To: DeskCaptain
Many times it depends on who is holding the event. It all seems to revolve around some arbitrary formula, usually only understandable to the people holding the event.
2 posted on 04/24/2011 4:18:27 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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Passively allowing the -=] MEDIA [=- to decide who is in the televised debates and who will be the GOP candidate will be suicide for America.
3 posted on 04/24/2011 4:25:22 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: DeskCaptain

Every legitimate candidate should be included in the debates.


4 posted on 04/24/2011 4:43:40 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: DeskCaptain

Every legitimate candidate should be included in the debates.


5 posted on 04/24/2011 4:43:46 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: DeskCaptain

Based on recent decades, any well spoken conservative will be either excluded outright or not asked questions.

If that isn’t enough, the Tokyo Rove wing of the party will remove conservative challengers from the primary ballots, which they had to do with Dole.

For this reason, getting the teaparties going and gaining control over the state parties is critical.


6 posted on 04/24/2011 4:54:11 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: DeskCaptain

Based on recent decades, any well spoken conservative will be either excluded outright or not asked questions.

If that isn’t enough, the Tokyo Rove wing of the party will remove conservative challengers from the primary ballots, which they had to do with Dole.

For this reason, getting the teaparties going and gaining control over the state parties is critical.


7 posted on 04/24/2011 4:54:22 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: DeskCaptain

I propose a different approach, and one that would be appreciated by most Republicans. Set up the debates as “friendly” speeches between two, and just two, random candidates who *agree* on the topic.

Strict ground rules for these “preliminaries”. Candidates will not argue, talk each other down, or behave in any way in a contentious manner.

Instead with the agreed topic, say “deficit reduction”, given to them at least a week before the discussion, they are each to do a presentation with the following format:

1) Describe the problem in detail.
2) Describe how the problem came about.
3) Explain how best to address the problem.
4) Explain how “the president” fits into the solution.
5) Describe the consequences of inaction.

Importantly, advantage goes to both candidates, as the candidate that speaks first will in essence give a speech, but the second candidate will be able to edit his speech on the fly, to take into account what the first candidate said.

This will give the audience a chance to evaluate the first speaker as a communicator of ideas. If they cannot give a public speech, or if they babble niceties and platitudes instead of addressing the issue, they will not do well.

Then the audience will see how the second candidate thinks after being given new information from the first candidates speech. If and how they are able to adjust what they say based on new information.

More than anything else, both candidates will be dealing in ideas instead of personal conflict. It will also get the Republican candidates new ideas from each other, free knowledge and advice for whichever is elected.

As “preliminaries”, the intent here is for them to act as “qualifying rounds”, that do not cost very much, are designed for smaller venues, and gets the candidates out there to speak to their constituents. And also to get some of the Republican ideas out there as well.


8 posted on 04/24/2011 5:02:23 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: DeskCaptain

It should be decided by; who ever shot the most Moose!


9 posted on 04/24/2011 5:41:45 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: DeskCaptain

If they spend money in Iowa they get invited.

This otherwise irrelevant State helped us get McCain.

Thanks, Iowa.


10 posted on 04/24/2011 5:48:12 PM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: DeskCaptain

Historically, it is based on oh well an individual polls. Some events have a cutoff of usually 10% it just depends who is running the event.


11 posted on 04/24/2011 6:00:48 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: pyx
Cain's fate in the race may well be decided by the debate organizers.
Passively allowing the -=] MEDIA [=- to decide who is in the televised debates and who will be the GOP candidate will be suicide for America.
The correct answer is that the Republican Party is the party of the internet and talk radio. And that multiple debates among pairs of candidates, moderated by conservative talk show hosts or by a perfectly neutral chess clock controlling the allocation of speaking time, would suit Republicans well.

The traditional method of allowing hostile "objective" journalists to moderate the discussion - and, coincidentally, keep the discussion on weak issues among Republicans and away from the disastrous policies of the Democrat incumbent - suits Republicans not at all.

There is no reason why Rush couldn't take control of the debate process, using the reach of his program as the incentive which no candidate could be comfortable declining.


12 posted on 04/24/2011 7:08:50 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: DeskCaptain; EternalVigilance
I favor allowing anyone who's filed as a candidate in a GOP presidential primary to be included in national presidential primary debates. The criteria chosen by Fox News for inclusion in the first GOP presidential candidates debate seem a travesty to me. 1) Only candidates who have filed to run in South Carolina primary are eligible. Why did they pick SC? Well, I suspect it's because that state has the highest presidential primary filing fees in the nation -- higher, in fact, than all the other states' fees put together. This ensures that only the existing well-heeled campaigns even get a chance for their candidate to be heard in first national debate. 2) Only candidates who already poll more than 1% in 5 national polls are eligible. This means the media essentially limits the universe of candidates who even get a chance to be heard in national debates. None of the big name GOP candidates are what I call 'personhood pro-life' -- and by that I mean recognizing that the Constitution says that no person shall be deprived of their life without due process. So Fox News' rules likely means that GOP candidates will never get challenged on this matter in the debate marketplace of ideas.

Disclaimer: I left the GOP when McCain garnered enough delegates to win 2008 nomination. I helped form what quickly became the third-largest national party as measured by number of registered voters -- America's Independent Party. AIP's structural design is unlike any other party, and was developed to best ensure that we can avoid the root causes of the miserable failure of the Democratic and Republican parties

13 posted on 04/24/2011 8:56:25 PM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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