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Wayne Madsen: Foreign Intelligence Agencies Say Obama Birth Certificate Is Fake
Fellowship of the Minds ^ | 28 April 2011 | Wayne Madsen via Fellowship of Minds

Posted on 04/28/2011 8:40:53 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

From intelligence agencies around the world, the verdict on President Obama’s newly-released certificate of live birth from Hawaii is in: the certificate is a rank forgery on the same level as the Niger “yellow cake” uranium and Iraq Oil Ministry forged documents. Intelligence and law enforcement services are experts on fake documents since they have to deal with large numbers of counterfeit documents, such as birth certificates, passports, identity cards and driver’s licenses, as well as currency. Intelligence agencies are also experts at forging their own documents for their clandestine agents.

Within 24-hours of the release of the long form Certificate of Live Birth on April 27, intelligence agencies from Britain and China to Germany and Russia examined the document and concluded it was a forgery based on the fact that Barack H. Obama Sr.’s race, listed as “African,” was a monumental error, considering that not only the United States, but other English-speaking nations described Africans and those of African descent as either “Negroes” or “blacks” in 1961.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: birtcertificate; birth; certificate; certifigate; fraud; hawaii; hussein; naturalborncitizen; obama; officialbcrelease
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To: Fractal Trader

Wayne Madsen is an absolute crackpot who used to write a bunch of leftist conspiracy theories till even they tired of him. I do believe Madsen had worked up a giant conspiracy that claimed Bush stole the 2004 election by paying secret operatives to alter the voting machines all over the country.

Are the die hard birthers really resorting to linking to Wayne Madsen? Seriously?


21 posted on 04/28/2011 9:17:37 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Fractal Trader

I informed our local morning talkshow about this very fact this morning and even gave a “shout out” to free Republic.Everyone knows this thing is fake.


22 posted on 04/28/2011 9:22:11 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: All

Re: Kenya was not the name of the country

Sorry, but actually it was, but not independent till 1963

The Colony and Protectorate of Kenya was part of the British Empire in Africa. It was established when the former East Africa Protectorate was transformed into a British crown colony in 1920. Technically, the “Colony of Kenya” referred to the interior lands, while a ten-mile coastal strip (ostensibly on lease from the Sultan of Zanzibar) was the “Protectorate of Kenya” but the two were controlled as a single administrative unit. Mombasa, the largest city in 1921, had a population of 32,000 at that time.

Indians in Kenya objected to the reservation of the Highlands for Europeans and bitterness grew between the Indians and the Europeans. The population in 1921 was estimated at 2,376,000, of whom 9651 were Europeans, 22,822 Indians, and 10,102 Arabs.

The COLONY CAME TO AN END IN 1963 when independence was agreed with the British. After independence the former colony became known as Kenya.


23 posted on 04/28/2011 9:22:21 PM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: DustyMoment

You absolutely do not know that it doesn’t include Obama.

All one has to do is ACTUALLY listen to SCOTUS discuss this issue to realize it is not settled law.


24 posted on 04/28/2011 9:22:32 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: All

To all the complainers:

I posted this as conspiracy and weird stuff — food for thought, not necessarily totally correct

Madsen has had some claims which are quite right, and some that aren’t. It is up to the astute Freeper to separate the wheat from the chaff.


25 posted on 04/28/2011 9:23:27 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: dayglored

Not so fast.

“In other words, all one has to do to disprove his theory is to find ONE other Hawaiian BC/COLB from that year that lists a parent’s race as “African”, and his whole theory goes down the toilet. Shouldn’t be too hard.”

Finding other instances of “African” as a prescribed race-category at a time when prescribed race-categories did not include “African” would prove only that certain Hawaiian typists were incompetent. Hell, the Boers are as much “African” as Obama, Sr.

We can play only by the rules of the time, and those rules excluded “African” as an acceptable race-category.


26 posted on 04/28/2011 9:25:56 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Cicero

The hospital’s name, however, is exactly the same on the Nordyke twins’ birth certifcates. Who knows why—


27 posted on 04/28/2011 9:28:05 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: MindBender26

Are we discussing the author or what he says? What appears in this article is defensible on the merits.


28 posted on 04/28/2011 9:29:49 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Fractal Trader; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; ...
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Wayne Madsen: Foreign Intelligence Agencies Say 0bama Birth Certificate Is Fake

. . . . SP alert.

Article, then interesting discussion at # 5 and # 8.

Thanks, Fractal Trader. What happened to the other thread? It disappeared before I could read it.

Thanks also to bergmeid.

29 posted on 04/28/2011 9:30:38 PM PDT by LucyT
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See update at # 23.

30 posted on 04/28/2011 9:33:17 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Fractal Trader

He didn’t provide any evidence of the intelligence agencies confirming this, but it is a fact that “negro” was more likely used in 1961.

Whether Hawaii used the term or not.....?


Page 231 contains the requirements for “Race and color.

VITAL STATISTICS OF THE UNITED STATES, 1961
VOLUME I- NATALITY

“Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and “other nonwhite.”

http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf


31 posted on 04/28/2011 9:35:08 PM PDT by Hypo2
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To: Deaf Smith

Obama failed to hoodwink the average American with publishing his fake BC. Imagine what the average foreign intelligence officer thinks of this hoax.

If 0 really wants to continue hiding his origins he’ll be subject to foreign blackmail. Perhaps he already is.

It’s so disappointing and embarrassing to see members of Congress completely ignore this controversy. It’s difficult to get interested in any of the GOP presidential candidates when they themselves are not interested in the BC debate.


32 posted on 04/28/2011 9:36:58 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: Cicero

It says on the bottom of it that it is an abstract. Therefore, not a copy of any original or long form birth certificate. It’s just a glorified COLB and since the fool forger of the other one used “African” the current forgers had to stick with it.


33 posted on 04/28/2011 9:40:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
“Kenya was NOT the name of the country back then. It was British East Africa, a British Colony.”

Is the simple mention of Kenya, proof it’s a forgery?

Not according to this, one of the first few entries that popped up when I googled "Kenya Protectorate":

In 1920 the protectorate was united with the protectorate of Zanzibar, renamed Kenya, and made a crown colony, the coastal strip being known as the Kenya Protectorate.

34 posted on 04/28/2011 9:43:20 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: Fractal Trader
From intelligence agencies around the world, the verdict on President Obama’s newly-released certificate of live birth from Hawaii is in: the certificate is a rank forgery

Hey, many of us have already come to the same conclusion!

35 posted on 04/28/2011 9:46:28 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: dayglored; Fractal Trader; LucyT

“What we have here is a hopeful loony, I’m afraid.

“... Madsen says intelligence agencies around the world have scrutinized the birth certificate and decided it’s fake because of one word on the document. The word “African” was used to designate the race...”


How about this one, is that loony too???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk&feature=player_embedded


36 posted on 04/28/2011 9:47:05 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Fractal Trader

Linkies to the “intelligence agencies’” statements, pleeeze!


37 posted on 04/28/2011 9:48:50 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: little jeremiah
It says on the bottom of it that it is an abstract...

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This PDF Certificate of Live Birth released is not an image of the original. It may not even be a true copy, it was put together as an abstract from the original document.

Notice that at the bottom it says its a certified copy or an abstract. Mr. Obama is a theoretical American.

An OCR document presented with fancy Photoshop borders is already digitally altered. If you have already altered one thing, you can easily alter something else with the click of a mouse on Photoshop. A document with 1961 writing and a 21st Century safety paper background is obviously not the original.

To determine authenticity you need a real, actual document.

So did the president act stupidly by releasing a PDF abstract document? Maybe not.

If the State of Hawaii put an official seal on it then that ends the discussion of the authenticity as far as any court is concerned. Every state and court must give full faith and credit to the public acts, records and judicial proceedings of every State. And federal courts are also required to give full faith and credit to the public records of every state.

Hawaii says they have certified this copy. So legally, that ends the issue. It's entitled to full faith and credit.

At least maybe now the piss-stream media will stop insisting that the COLB is the birth certificate. And another distraction to keep from reporting on Obama's incompetence is also removed. /sarc

But if Obama became an Indonesian citizen (Barry Soetoro) when he was growing up there, when did he apply to become an American again?

On April 27, 2011 at a news conference Obama denounced the ''silliness,'' the ''sideshows and carnival barkers'' that forced him to release the document after years of speculation.

''We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do. We've got big problems to solve.'' the president said before flying off to Chicago. The press conference was held a few minutes after 9:45 a.m. At 10:05 a.m. he was in the air, according to a White House pool report, which noted ''Oprah awaits.''

The only carnival-barker sideshow that's been going on for 3 years has been the Obama Snake Oil Show.

Arrest me, for what
Arrest me, for what? I'm late for Oprah!
I've got lies to tell and a nation to destroy.

Countdown until Obama leaves Office: 632 days as of April 28, 2011.

38 posted on 04/28/2011 9:54:54 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: LucyT

The moment I saw “Race: African”....I said to myself the same thing everyone else did: “They’re not even trying to hide this anymore. They’ve given up.”

2012 can’t get here fast enough....it just can’t.


39 posted on 04/28/2011 9:58:03 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (NPR= Nazi Propaganda Radio)
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To: LucyT
What happened to the other thread? It disappeared before I could read it.

Check your FR mail.

40 posted on 04/28/2011 9:58:47 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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