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Obama's long-form birth certificate debunked - with illustrations
Personal examination ^ | 04/30/2011 | EasTexSteve

Posted on 05/01/2011 6:45:48 AM PDT by eastexsteve

Bear with me, as I am rather new to this forum. The following is my unbiased examination of the Obama LFBC without any comment or input from outside sources. I'm sure others have made some of the same observations I have, but I assembled some observations that you can see yourself without using any specialized software whatsoever. I haven't seen some of these observations out on the web by anyone else yet. (Although, I'm sure I haven't looked everywhere.) Please feel free to copy the file from Google Docs and do what you wish with it.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B1eQRJILO2U0ZWUwODM0ZDktZTg2OC00Yzc0LWI4YzAtODBkZWU2YjBhZDU1&hl=en&authkey=CKv6_hg


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; certificate; certifigate; colbfake; eligibility; enoughalready; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; obsession; onethoughtonethread
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To: mewykwistmas

I guess you have the goat blowing covered?


81 posted on 05/01/2011 8:54:10 AM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: eastexsteve

ping for later


82 posted on 05/01/2011 9:09:21 AM PDT by Samizdat
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To: chickadee

**I’m sure that all the kerning and layering were done for the specific purpose of keeping the controversy going.**

Probably. If they wanted to really close the book on this they would have made a BC from all the old machinery (it’s still available), broke in and/or had insider help to ‘borrow’ the microfilm roll, spliced the flawless construction into the roll (probably the toughest part of it all), and then make a new roll to replace the old at the storage facility (that machinery is probably still around as well). Of course, that would require some very dedicated co-conspirators who would never say anything to anyone.

**Obama’s cynical gift to those who wish to focus on this issue.**

I’m not focusing on this issue alone. I’m not the smartest by a long shot, but even a boxer uses both fists coupled with jabs, hooks, etc., striking anywhere above the belt where the opponent is vulnerable.

Obama the Marxist IS vulnerable to relentless attacks to his past and present life. He’s not God, and the pressure from all angles should be increased for, if nothing else, to make his lying life very miserable.

Then maybe he would call on the Lord to deliver him from his sin (With God all things are possible).


83 posted on 05/01/2011 9:21:58 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: TNoldman
ping bho bc

I think my cousin told me this is what the Viet Cong used to scream when attacking.
84 posted on 05/01/2011 9:24:13 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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To: Scanian

Because the are either deluded because they don’t want to see the facts and truth, or scared wabbist who chose the wrong side for perceived safety. Or just plain evil and lies are their food and drink.

It’s like living in the Twilight Zone.


85 posted on 05/01/2011 9:25:40 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: NoGrayZone

The only way to authenticate the new document is through the Hawaii DOH. There is a small problem with this though....Obamas records are still under Presidential Seal! Any other time you spend looking at document anomolies is just a waste of time. Americans need full cooperation with Hawaii DOH or this issue is in no different position than the first fake COLB.


86 posted on 05/01/2011 9:31:22 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: ILS21R

False.


87 posted on 05/01/2011 9:35:02 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: chickadee

As bad as I hate to say it, I agree with you.


88 posted on 05/01/2011 9:36:21 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: eastexsteve
That's what everybody says BTW. Plus, it was typed on two (maybe more) typewriters, in different style and sized fonts, and has two or three different rubber stamp markings (with appropriate wear points, one of which is that "1" you question.

All of that work was done back in the 1960s ~ typing, rubber stamping, pre-printing, etc. ~ signatures!~ ALL 50 years ago.

Then, about then it was photographed (in a binder) on what was probably a 914 Xerox workstation ~ frequently used to support large scale continuing microfiche activities.

Later, maybe in the 70s/80s some intermediate steps were performed that resulted in the 90s with a fully digitized stored image somewhere on a CD. To retrieve a birth certificate you'd simply go to the file where it was "kept/maintained", download it to the system, and the system would pull it out and provide you with a regular xerox print image on top of whatever security paper you wanted.

Looks like they still do that BTW.

Then, that document would be given to a clerk who hit it with another rubber stamp telling you that it was either an abstract or true copy, signed/initialed, and passed on to you upon the payment of the requisite fee.

Subsequently the document was xeroxed and passed around to the press, and someone went back and got a copy NOT printed on security paper and that's been xeroxed and passed around.

You hit on all the big items.

We are currently trying to find out if the Lee person was real ~ and who he or she might be. There are several theories. Plus, some folks are arguing back and forth about the relative value of items that could demonstrate in or out of sequence practices back in 1961 that may tend to indicate there was some hankypankyby Stanley Ann's grandmother (trying to pass off an adopted baby from somewhere as her daughters).

Other discussion has turned to the supposed baby-daddy.

Be a good idea for you to review ALL the threads to see what's up with this.

89 posted on 05/01/2011 9:39:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GreenAccord

I just found my bc, whew, took me a while! Unfortunately it’s been folded in three’s since day 1 and I can no longer see my mom’s info.

I just called the Bronx Lebanon Hospital, where I was born and they informed me I have to go to Manhattan (ew) to get another certified copy. I asked if it would be the same exact one I have and she informed me yes, it would be.

I think I may do so on my day off, Wednesday. But in the mean time, I will scan what I have and see what happens.


90 posted on 05/01/2011 9:43:39 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

7 people by my count. Three of them were part of the old Doonesbury political chat room ~ one of the first big ones. Then the guy who showed up with the documents, Dan Rather, his daughter and her “friend”.


91 posted on 05/01/2011 9:45:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CommieCutter; Scanian

I have no problem opening his link.....it’s my link that seems to have a problem.

It shows the 4 layers of barrys “bc”. I posted it in both Firefox and IE but Scanian still can’t open it.

Google deleted it soon after it was posted, some were able to view it and others still aren’t.

Weird....just like everything else going on.


92 posted on 05/01/2011 9:48:19 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You and the one or two other anti-birthers here are embarrassing yourselves.


93 posted on 05/01/2011 9:54:32 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: eastexsteve

Stop wasting your time chasing details on a piece of paper that has no certification value folks....

It is NOT a certified document as release by the DOH of Hawaii with the required embossed seal. It is a copy of something and a scan-to of something thereby carrying no certification value whatsoever.

Trying to use it FOR or AGAINST Obama is an utter waste of time.

He still has not released the actual certified copy of a COLB that would be generated by the DOH of Hawaii with an embossed, date and signed seal.

The lie continues, nothing more...until he releases a genuine certified copy of the COLB with noticeable alterations indicating fraud/forgery...all you have is a lie...nothing more.

=8-)


94 posted on 05/01/2011 9:57:16 AM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: eastexsteve
Wind is blowing here today and shaking incoming data will need to wait until mid night when the helicopters are refueling to down load pictures.
95 posted on 05/01/2011 10:06:18 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: CharlesWayneCT
In other words, you are looking a scanned, possibly multiply-scanned, document, pointing out random anomalies, and arguing that these random anomalies are evidence of a well-planned but poorly-executed conspiracy. But with no explanation as to WHY someone would generate these particular anomalies, or how they play a part in the conspiracy, you have nothing.


What I'm more interested in is the data submitted as coming from the records on file in HI the actual data? I'm not interested how it got here be via a photocopy, scanned doc, hand written on a scratch piece of paper, microfilche or whatever. Is it the data that is on file in HI? If so then all these anomalies are just that anomalies but don't impact the data as being legit if it is what's on file.

After all this has a stamp certifying it as being legit and Loretta Fuddy, the Director of Health in her letter stated she personally witnessed the copying and attested to its authenticity.

http://global.nationalreview.com/dest/2011/04/27/birth_certificate_correspondence_5da9a1a825978db6b52f335642604a2e.pdf

96 posted on 05/01/2011 10:11:47 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport
UKULELE...

97 posted on 05/01/2011 10:13:58 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: eastexsteve
A comment and thought from CDR Kerchner (Ret) on the "assembled" PDF document put out on the internet by Obama:

While this whole "assembled" PDF document the White House put out could be a ruse and trap to further embarrass the "birthers" as Mario considered in his new article, I had another thought. What's to say that the copies given to Obama's lawyer sent to Hawaii, and attested to by Hawaiian officials, actually show the same information on those two paper copies that is now being displayed on the internet in this very badly assembled PDF document.

As I recall the former HI director when interviewed in recent weeks, she said when she saw the alleged original Obama birth registration document she said it was half typed and half hand written. What we are being shown on the net is something that is entirely typed except for the signatures. That does not comport with what the former HI Health Dept Director said.

What if the Obama powers sent the lawyer to Hawaii to provide the necessary cover story that they did get two copies of the Obama vital record there ... but the image on the net now is NOT of the paper copies that they picked up ... say because there is something on it that Obama still does not wish to reveal. So he has a version cooked up once again to put online, and someone screwed up and did not flatten the PDF file prior to release to hide the layers. Would Hawaii officials speak up to affirm or deny that what Obama put on the net is not an image of the copy of what they gave to Obama's lawyer. Or would they keep silent in much the same way they did regarding the Certification document, the short form images on the net since Jun 2008. Remember that Hawaii never confirmed that any of those images on the net were copies of something that they issued. Hawaii has been very willing to cooperate with Obama's stonewalling and game playing regarding the vital records in HI for Obama. And, Obama is playing such a cat and mouse game with the American electorate about all his hidden records that one can never tell with him as to what is real or what is memorex. It is a disgrace how this administration is treating the American citizenry. And the main stream media does not call him out on this and instead helps and enables Obama to conduct such offensive disinformation tactics on the American electorate. Journalism no longer exists in this nation. The media should be ashamed.

98 posted on 05/01/2011 10:16:37 AM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: deport; LucyT; Red Steel; Brown Deer

Deport has a link to a pdf document of correspondence between Zero, his lawyer and HI.

Hawaii - a criminal enterprise disguised as a State.


99 posted on 05/01/2011 10:19:19 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Yes, we’ve seen the stamp. But that doesn’t mean it’s not worth while focusing on what prove to be numerous problems and discrepancies.

For instance, the White House says that they have posted a copy of a paper birth certificate on their website—actually a COLB, as you recognize.

Only problem with that, is that some of the many discrepancies would not be there if this were merely a copy of a paper COLB—even a forged paper COLB. There are also numerous signs of computer manipulation. This is not merely a copy, not even of a fake COLB. It’s fake on top of fake on top of fake.


100 posted on 05/01/2011 10:20:12 AM PDT by Cicero
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