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Obama's Forged Birth Certificate and The History Of Political Image Tampering
ObamaFake ^ | 7/22/11 | Proe Graphique

Posted on 07/26/2011 8:03:13 AM PDT by charlene4

When people hear that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, some people (the number is shrinking) shake their heads in disbelief - or feign disbelief - and say things like, "That's impossible', "not in this day and age" and "Not in our country". Those are the same refrains voiced by Russians when Stalin took power, and what the Germans said when Hitler's sadistic rein of terror began (by the way and for the record, Stalin murdered 40-60 million of his own people, Hitler about 7 million, if you're into body counting to score left/right political points. Hitler was also a "Nazi Socialist", meaning the left wing is simply lying when they attach conservatism to Nazism, anyway. Stalin and Hitler were simply variations of the same totalitarian, media-controlling coin, and entirely apart from any free-market, first amendment-loving, free-society conservative notions that have ever existed).

Not only do we now know that Obama's birth certificate is a pathetic fake from the fact that the digital image practically crumbles in your hands upon examination, but there is a long precedent for the forgery used by the highest leaders in the most powerful nations. Those forgeries are what this illustrated post is about, because Obama's forged birth certificate is serious business. As a devout communist virtually by his own admission in his autobiography, the realities of those past forgeries would not be unknown to Obama, and may figure heavily in his thinking. Indeed, Obama's own 2008 campaign art reflects a very heavy soviet propaganda influence in its style:

(Excerpt) Read more at obamafake.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: anydaynow; birthcertificate; certifigate; forgery; fraud; gertifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; thistimeforsure
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To: shield

There is a website called “our invisible president” or something like that that has literally hundreds of pictures that have been photoshopped, many of which have been published in books about Obama. I’ll try to find the source URL.


21 posted on 07/26/2011 10:39:43 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: jh4freedom

I wouldn’t think so...but with zero’s ego...and his all about me, me, me, I, I, I, my, my, my personality...it’d not have his records destroyed...


22 posted on 07/26/2011 10:43:14 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: El Sordo
Ahhh, the madness of the fringe.

Keeps demonstrating itself every time you post.

23 posted on 07/26/2011 10:58:00 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: ml/nj
When I open this "high-res" (So high-res that the safety background is mostly gone!) AP image in Photoshop, Photoshop says as it's opening it, "Reading Acrobat touch-up image format." I don't ever recall seeing this on other pdfs I've opened in Photoshop.

I am aware of at least two things about it that doesn't make sense to me. I will not be surprised to find there are more.

24 posted on 07/26/2011 11:00:56 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: shield

I wouldn’t think so...but with zero’s ego...and his all about me, me, me, I, I, I, my, my, my personality...it’d not have his records destroyed...

“Me, me, me” means I’VE got to make sure that there is NO evidence to EVER bring ME down.

What use could Zero have for an existing record of a Kenyan birth? His whole created life fiction is built around being born in Hawaii of a father born in Kenya (for the globalists) and his mother being born in Kansas (for the liberal, union America-first audience).
A revealed Kenyan document would destroy the myth and ruin the post-Presidency memoir book sales and speaking tours.
The Kenyan birth certificate has been gone for many years now.


25 posted on 07/26/2011 11:02:50 AM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: jh4freedom

NO...there has been strong confirmations...his Kenya birth records are in his cousin’s safe. Yours is pure speculation and reasoning...not anything whatsoever factual.


26 posted on 07/26/2011 11:12:55 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: All
This is off topic, but really bothers me.
Last night when bo gave his self serving / blame Bush and anybody else, but his self speech, I noticed first how quickly the Flags were zoomed out of the picture. The Flag has that Gold Fringe which I thought meant something important.
Second who the he!! decorated that place? It looks like a combo of Mao and Saudi Prince designers. Nothing looks like AMERICAN except maybe the funeral lamps on either side of the wall that looks like an altar. Red carpet with gold trim, red chairs painted or made of Gold? Where is the RED WHITE and BLUE? Anyone else find this odd?
27 posted on 07/26/2011 11:13:32 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Mmmm... Nope.


28 posted on 07/26/2011 11:18:07 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: shield

Strong confirmations?

OK, like what?


29 posted on 07/26/2011 11:19:39 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo

“Strong confirmations? OK, like what?”

When you’re evaluating the validity of a hypothesis, and you consistently find that there is a distinct lack of evidence supporting your hypothesis (while simultaneously being confronted with evidence that contradicts your hypothesis), there are at least two options as to how to move forward:

1) You can interpret the lack of supporting evidence as meaning that there is no supporting evidence (such as ‘There never were any Obama birth records in Kenya’), and reconsider whether the hypothesis might be accurate;

or

2) You can interpret the lack of supporting evidence as evidence of a secret effort to hide and cover up all supporting evidence (such as ‘Odinga confiscated and is protecting Obama’s birth records’), and plug along with your old hypothesis.

Scientists use the first tactic. Birthers and conspiracy theorists opt for the second. To them, the lack of good evidence that Obama was born in Kenya just means that Obama’s hiding all the good evidence. And the really handy thing about such a belief is that it can never be proven wrong.


30 posted on 07/26/2011 11:52:24 AM PDT by Vickery2010
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To: DiogenesLamp

The blue pic is the one ABC posted on their website after scanning the WH image and ‘flattening’ it into a single layer image - as you would expect an actual scan to be. Apparently when they scanned it it had a print of the ‘short form’ COLB. That is what the image in the background is. The ‘enhanced’ brings this out.

So the blue image is a 2nd generation from a print of the original image and the BW image is a 3rd generation enhancement of the 2nd generation.

The ‘original’ from WH does NOT have the short form COLB ghost image in it. It only has be security cross-hatch.

ABC probably saw how bad the image was and felt they had to cover - hence their scan in blue.

A partial list of issues with this document:

1. Obama senior age is wrong by 2 years.
2. Kenya, East Africa? Maybe Kenya (by itself) maybe British East Africa. But you never see Kenya, East Africa in a phrase.
3. Smiley face in the stamped signature.
4. Centered type all over (no other period Hawaii LFBC has this much centered type)

And so on and so forth.


31 posted on 07/26/2011 12:18:09 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Vickery2010
1) You can interpret the lack of supporting evidence as meaning that there is no supporting evidence (such as ‘There never were any Obama birth records in Kenya’), and reconsider whether the hypothesis might be accurate;

or

2) You can interpret the lack of supporting evidence as evidence of a secret effort to hide and cover up all supporting evidence (such as ‘Odinga confiscated and is protecting Obama’s birth records’), and plug along with your old hypothesis.

Scientists use the first tactic. Birthers and conspiracy theorists opt for the second. To them, the lack of good evidence that Obama was born in Kenya just means that Obama’s hiding all the good evidence. And the really handy thing about such a belief is that it can never be proven wrong.

Your commentary overlooks the fact that Obama appears to have spread far and wide the rumor that he was from Kenya. There are lots of newspapers and magazines reporting him as being from Kenya. ( Approximately 26 references in the news claiming he was from Kenya at this link.) There is a video of his wife saying he was from Kenya, So your argument that people who think he is from Kenya must have made the whole thing up, is just completely falsified by the evidence. I do not fault people for having erroneous beliefs regarding Obama being born in Kenya. They are the victims of a bunch of falsified rumors which must have originated from Barry Obama.

Rather than chastise the ineligible Nitwit in office for spreading such lying rumors, you chastise as "kooks" those people who actually believed the lies he spread about his origins. I think you need to get your perceptions and your priorities sorted out.

32 posted on 07/26/2011 12:19:14 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Rather than chastise the ineligible Nitwit in office for spreading such lying rumors, you chastise as “kooks” those people who actually believed the lies he spread about his origins. I think you need to get your perceptions and your priorities sorted out.”

DiogenesLamp- Do not believe I have ever read a better argument!


33 posted on 07/26/2011 12:35:12 PM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: DiogenesLamp
For all your pandering, you seem remarkably incapable of assessing information.

No one has been able to produce a first hand source of BHO claiming he was born in Kenya.

The link you provide lists several claims that are demonstrably false and have known to be so for years.

Example:

“The Associated Press (AP) declared that “Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.””

The link provided here is a third party source ( http://theobamafile.com/_exhibits/APDeclaredObamaKenyanBorn.mht) claiming that the AP said this.

Then they do it again towards the bottom of the post: “Then there's the oft cited AP report of the debate, between Obama and Keyes in 2004, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born” citizen, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.””

And! They cite the long dicredited coinvicted forger Lucas Smith: “Then there's the guy with the Kenyan birth certificate.”

Basically all that is at your link are errors, misinformation, Internet myths and third hand sources that say Obama was born in Kenya.

34 posted on 07/26/2011 1:08:16 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo
I heard there's a road sign claiming Obama was born in Kenya...
35 posted on 07/26/2011 1:21:22 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: shield

NO...there has been strong confirmations...his Kenya birth records are in his cousin’s safe. Yours is pure speculation and reasoning...not anything whatsoever factual.

OK, you win. There is a Kenyan Birth Certificate for Barack Obama in his cousin’s safe, then.


36 posted on 07/26/2011 1:36:00 PM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Your commentary overlooks the fact that Obama appears to have spread far and wide the rumor that he was from Kenya.”

He did? You seem to have a lack of sources of OBAMA saying he was born in Kenya. Several foreign news stories saying that about him, but not Obama saying that about himself.

You also seem to be lacking sources from before 2008 even calling him Kenyan-born. If Obama was really spreading that rumor far and wide, why does your link have just one article from before 2008? Or are you suggesting that Obama STARTED saying he was born in Kenya in 2008?

“There are lots of newspapers and magazines reporting him as being from Kenya. ( Approximately 26 references in the news claiming he was from Kenya at this link.)”

26? I count 11 references in the “news.” And that’s only if you double-count the Kenyan Standard article and double-count the GraphicGhana/ModernGhana article. So really, 9.

And of those nine, all but one is from an African publication (and most of those are online-only, it seems), and the ninth is in a podcast description that isn’t reflected in the podcast itself.

So is it really your contention that Obama has snookered the ENTIRE WORLDWIDE PRESS into believing that he was born in Hawaii, except for nine random writers (mostly in Africa) who know the REAL truth about an American Presidential candidate? And who nonchalantly put it in articles about his political campaigns?

See, I think it’s more likely that nine random writers made the same factual mistake. An especially understandable one in 2008, when Birthers started writing all over the web that Obama was born in Kenya. But massive international cover-up that missed nine reporters...that’s possible too, I suppose.

“There is a video of his wife saying he was from Kenya,”

Competing explanations:

1) She was plugging his foreign roots; or
2) She accidently slipped up and exposed the secret fraud his family had concealed for 50 years.

I’m going with 1. You’re free to choose 2. But it’s the sillier explanation.

“So your argument that people who think he is from Kenya must have made the whole thing up, is just completely falsified by the evidence.”

And your evidence is a handful of foreign news websites and a couple of ambiguous quotes from speeches? Even moon hoaxers laugh at how pitiful a showing of evidence that is.

The fact that you’re lacking evidence before 2008 does tend to suggest that people started making things up in 2008. Birthers made up the idea that Obama made some confession to Keyes in 2004. Birthers still repeat the made-up idea that he had a foreign scholarship at Occidental. Birthers are not averse to made-up ideas.

“They are the victims of a bunch of falsified rumors which must have originated from Barry Obama.”

Which “must have” originated? Really? You can’t imagine any other way rumors could get started about Obama other than HIM starting them?


37 posted on 07/26/2011 2:15:03 PM PDT by Vickery2010
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To: El Sordo
For all your pandering, you seem remarkably incapable of assessing information.

No one has been able to produce a first hand source of BHO claiming he was born in Kenya.

The link you provide lists several claims that are demonstrably false and have known to be so for years.

I gave you that link because it was the nearest one to hand. I don't put much stock in the born in Kenya argument, so I don't make much effort to keep up with all the links that assert it. It IS, like everything else Obama says, A LIE. I happened to remembered that one, so I gave it to you, figuring you could disregard the crap and focus on the actual legitimate sources. I Obviously overestimated you.

“The Associated Press (AP) declared that “Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.””

The link provided here is a third party source ( http://theobamafile.com/_exhibits/APDeclaredObamaKenyanBorn.mht) claiming that the AP said this.

Does it not occur to you that in the realm of rumor spreading, the truth isn't all that important? If enough people SAY the AP said that, it's almost as good as if they had. Most people wouldn't bother checking, they would just run with it. The question you must ask yourself is who let the word "Kenya" get connected to Obama if not Obama himself?

Then they do it again towards the bottom of the post: “Then there's the oft cited AP report of the debate, between Obama and Keyes in 2004, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born” citizen, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.””

And! They cite the long dicredited coinvicted forger Lucas Smith: “Then there's the guy with the Kenyan birth certificate.”

Basically all that is at your link are errors, misinformation, Internet myths and third hand sources that say Obama was born in Kenya.

So you assert. You are either sloppy or lying. Let's make this really simple so that you can understand it. Shoot them all down but one, and you still have that one. You are diverting attention from the fact that it has been WIDELY reported that Obama was from Kenya, and instead are focusing on the trivia of inaccuracy from a few links, and proclaiming the ACCURATE links "guilty by association!" Let's take a look at one of them.

NPR? Whoda thunk that bunch of Liberals would fall for the ole "Born in Kenya" joke? NPR has since corrected that article, but the original is copied on websites all over the world.

Quit trying to push history down the memory hole. Obama played up the "born in Kenya" angle while he thought it was in his best interest, and after he decided to run for President he decided it was no longer helpful. The evidence that Barry is the SOURCE of all these idiot rumors is lying all about the internet. Even his WIFE was so stupid as to believe his lie. Here is a video of her repeating "Home country of Kenya". Watch her lips move. Listen to her voice. Tell us all that Michelle Obama is a "Crazy Birther!"

Lie some more. It amuses us if nothing else.

38 posted on 07/26/2011 2:54:14 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: charlene4
When people hear that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, some people (the number is shrinking) shake their heads in disbelief - or feign disbelief - and say things like, "That's impossible', "not in this day and age" and "Not in our country".

Seriously, do you know anybody whose said or thought that?

Some people are just die-hard Obama fans and will support him no matter what.

Then there are people who've looked into the evidence and concluded that it hasn't been proven that the documents a fake.

It's not that there's any great trust in Obama or politicians.

It's that the arguments for forgery just aren't convincing: often they're laughably unconvincing.

39 posted on 07/26/2011 3:02:20 PM PDT by x
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To: Vickery2010
He did? You seem to have a lack of sources of OBAMA saying he was born in Kenya. Several foreign news stories saying that about him, but not Obama saying that about himself.

It begs the question. Where did these foreign news stories get the idea he was from Kenya? Who, other than himself would have spread such a rumor? I suspect the evidence not in my possession lies in the vaults of every news network in the country, but of course they have no interest in pointing out that their darling "Precedent" is a liar. However, we do have a video of his wife Michelle (actually I think there is more than one video) saying his "Home country of Kenya." Where do you suppose she got this silly notion from? Made it up herself did she? Listen to her voice, watch her lips move. Tell us all she's a "Crazy Birther!"

You also seem to be lacking sources from before 2008 even calling him Kenyan-born. If Obama was really spreading that rumor far and wide, why does your link have just one article from before 2008? Or are you suggesting that Obama STARTED saying he was born in Kenya in 2008?

Didn't you know? It's all part of a Vast right-wing conspiracy to plant false information all over the internet after Obama won. It's so effective it even snookered NPR and His wife Michelle. Alternatively, nobody gave a sh*t about Barry until he became a contender.

26? I count 11 references in the “news.” And that’s only if you double-count the Kenyan Standard article and double-count the GraphicGhana/ModernGhana article. So really, 9.

As I am not focused on this issue like a laserbeam on the economy, I simply counted the blue links many months ago, and remembered the number 26. That you bothered to go through each and every blue link to determine which are and are not "News" links demonstrates a very commendable level of fanaticism about such a trivial issue as Obama lying to everyone about his origins once again. You count nine. I'll take it. Prove the 9 were made up.

So is it really your contention that Obama has snookered the ENTIRE WORLDWIDE PRESS into believing that he was born in Hawaii, except for nine random writers (mostly in Africa) who know the REAL truth about an American Presidential candidate? And who nonchalantly put it in articles about his political campaigns?

Not at all. That is your silly idea. More like Obama let people believe he was "Kenyan" for the early part of his political career because he felt it lent him an exotic air. While he was a nobody, it didn't matter if it was true or not. When he became a contender, it was no longer useful but instead a potentially serious liability. The African press, not getting the word to change gears the way the American Press moves in lockstep, continued reporting what they regarded as the truth out of a sense of pride.

See, I think it’s more likely that nine random writers made the same factual mistake. An especially understandable one in 2008, when Birthers started writing all over the web that Obama was born in Kenya. But massive international cover-up that missed nine reporters...that’s possible too, I suppose.

Alternatively, when he was a nothing, nobody cared. So What if the Senator from Illinois tells people he's from "Kenya." Who gives a sh*t? But wait! He's running for President with the Backing of the entire MEDIA INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. That rumor has to be squelched and quickly! Man the Stations! Carry Water! Run interference! Attack McCain! Attack Palin! (For showing everyone that Obama is a little child idiot.)

I’m going with 1. You’re free to choose 2. But it’s the sillier explanation.

You are going with both. All your arguments have the consistency of P*ss and Sh*t. As it should happen, She did it twice. This time in 2007.

Yeah, sure, no one would be confused about THAT statement from her.

The fact that you’re lacking evidence before 2008 does tend to suggest that people started making things up in 2008. Birthers made up the idea that Obama made some confession to Keyes in 2004. Birthers still repeat the made-up idea that he had a foreign scholarship at Occidental. Birthers are not averse to made-up ideas.

And neither are you. The Above video was shot in 2007. Kinda pokes a hole in your theory there doesn't it? Quick! Make up a new one to explain this dichotomy! :) Move your goalposts back further!

Which “must have” originated? Really? You can’t imagine any other way rumors could get started about Obama other than HIM starting them?

Yeah, his wife could have started the rumors without his knowledge. I guess it must be her fault hmm?

40 posted on 07/26/2011 3:36:58 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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