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More Dunham passport documents (Dr. Conspiracy goes birther? "I suspect misconduct")
Obama Conspiracy Theories (blog) ^ | September 27, 2011 | Dr. Conspiracy

Posted on 09/28/2011 6:27:01 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

I reasoned that if President Obama had been born in Kenya, his mother must have been there with him at the time, and travel to a foreign country requires a passport. No passport, no travel to Kenya. To answer the passport question, I filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the United States Department of State on January 27, 2009, asking for records of any passports issued to Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama or Soetoro).

They returned one additional document, an issuance card associated with the 1967 passport renewal application previously released.

The wording of the letter is consistent with their finding a 1965 card and withholding it. It is also consistent with them finding an earlier card – and therein lies the problem with getting anything useful from the FOIA response.

I suspect misconduct.

(Excerpt) Read more at obamaconspiracy.org ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Reference
KEYWORDS: anndunham; birthcertificate; certifigate; conspiracy; dunham; naturalborncitizen; obama; stanleyanndunham; stanleydunham
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Be sure to check out the link to Strunk's latest hearing transcript and the back and forth with a NY State judge regarding the role that the NY delegation played in defining the natural born citizen clause beginning on page 24:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/64744734/COPYRIGHT-PROTECTED-Stenographic-Transcript-record-of-the-8-22-11-Hearing-of-NYSSC-Kings-Index-6500-2011

1 posted on 09/28/2011 6:27:10 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; Nachum; melancholy; rxsid; Red Steel; Fractal Trader; WhizCodger; Spaulding

NBC and Dunham passport ping...


2 posted on 09/28/2011 6:31:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
I reasoned that if President Obama had been born in Kenya, his mother must have been there with him at the time

Outstanding deduction Watson!
3 posted on 09/28/2011 6:34:58 PM PDT by kenavi (Raise taxes on the "fortunate few": lottery-winners.)
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To: Seizethecarp

“I suspect misconduct”

Shocking. Call in the “Spanish Inquistion” (because no one expcts them!)


4 posted on 09/28/2011 6:38:15 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Seizethecarp

The big question is: was the passport issued to Stanley Ann in July 1965 which she used to travel to Indonesia her first passport or was it a renewal of an earlier passport? If it was a renewal, then maybe she DID hold a passport at the time people claim she went to Kenya (or Canada?) to birth little Barky.

The government claims the dog ate all her passport records from 1965 and before.

But it is worth noting that the passport issued in July 1965 was NOT issued in the name she was then using, Stanley Ann Soetoro.

We know this because a later amendment showed her amending her passport to insert her married name Stanley Ann Soetoro.

Therefore, one could reasonably conclude that this passport was a renewal and not a first passport, because otherwise, if it was her first passport, it should have been issued in the name she was then using after her second marriage, Stanley Ann Soetoro.


5 posted on 09/28/2011 7:08:36 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (The pain from Cain falls mainly on Hussein (but some on Romney and Perry!))
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To: Seizethecarp; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...
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NBC and Dunham passport ping...

. . . . Check out article, then # 1 and # 5.

6 posted on 09/28/2011 7:28:14 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Seizethecarp

Dr. Conspiracy is a known liar and fraud. Surprised you would post a link to the website.


7 posted on 09/28/2011 7:29:28 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Meet the New Boss

Passport

(or Canada?)

Doubt a passport was needed to enter Canada then.

That travel would have been a lot more logical as Stanley Ann had an Aunt who lived for a time in Canada. And live on the border of Canada at the time Obozo was said to have been born.


8 posted on 09/28/2011 7:49:36 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Seizethecarp
I reasoned that if President Obama had been born in Kenya, his mother must have been there with him at the time

Right in the first sentence you jump head first into a dubious conjecture, Doctor.

9 posted on 09/28/2011 7:55:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: bushpilot1
“Dr. Conspiracy is a known liar and fraud. Surprised you would post a link to the website.”

In other words, he is an Obot!

But that is the point of my posting his most recent blog. He appears to believe that Obama’s (and Clinton's) State Dept. is acting like it is hiding something.

Dr. Conspiracy's followers appear to be horrified!

MSM writers have pointed to Dr. Conspiracy's “debunking” of claims that Obama’s pdf is forged (weak or dubious debunking at best, especially without access to the original, if there is one...) so I regard him to be on the front-line of Obama’s multi-layered defense.

I have to wonder whether even he has become tired of carrying Obama’s water.

10 posted on 09/28/2011 8:06:40 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Maybe he’s putting this out there hoping one of his followers will think up a plausible lie to explain away what the government has done with SAD’s passport records.


11 posted on 09/28/2011 8:10:49 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (The pain from Cain falls mainly on Hussein (but some on Romney and Perry!))
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To: Seizethecarp

We know his history..they like to plant fabricated stories. This person is a fraud. If wikipedia is not allowed on FR why should his site, both are left wing sites.

Dr. C is a far left radical just like his mentor Obama.

Ignore him.


12 posted on 09/28/2011 8:53:21 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Meet the New Boss
Dr. Conspiracy says he is following up on this discrepancy himself on the phone and it sounds like he might try yet another more carefully worded FOIA request.
13 posted on 09/28/2011 8:53:59 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Obfuscation is rampant everywhere records are kept in the
U S government....Seems our government is also in the business of forging passports for the Underwear Bomber. Lori and Kurt Haskell are both Michigan attorneys who were on Flight 253 and their eyewitness accounts that are credible should be considered helpful to the case but have been a source of frustration for the US Government. This link is to Lori and Kurt Haskell’s latest blog post about the forged passport for Umar
http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2011/09/proof-underwear-bombers-passport-photo.html


14 posted on 09/28/2011 9:11:42 PM PDT by Grand
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To: Seizethecarp

OH Tee Hee, I read that over at Obotski Central and I was just ROTFLMAO!!! But things are “different” when a Obot is getting the run-around. They are not paranoid like us. Oh no. If there is any justice in the world, somebody at the State Dept. will tell him that they have seen the document and they assure him everything is just peachy!!! And that he just has to trust them. Oh, I hope that happens.


15 posted on 09/28/2011 9:16:36 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Seizethecarp
Dr Conspiracy banned
16 posted on 09/28/2011 10:22:45 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
If you want to ignore Dr. Conspiracy, feel free!

I prefer to keep my eye on what the “enemy” is doing.

In this case, Dr. Conspiracy is accusing Clinton's State Dept. of essentially engaging in illegal “misconduct” to prevent release of FOIA requested documents relating to Obama’s mom that could have a bearing on where he was born. This is radical behavior for a supposed Obot.

You have suggested that this request by Dr. Conspiracy is a ruse aimed at FReepers. Maybe. Maybe not.

Have you noticed that Obama has lied to and pissed off virtually every constituency that supported him in 2008?

I am open to the possibility that Dr. Conspiracy might be in one or even several of those constituencies.

I have been waiting for more of these pissed off former Obama supporters to become interested in exploring inconsistencies in Obama’s birth narrative and the documentation of that narrative. Maybe that time has come for Dr. Conspiracy.

Even if he has been banned from FR, the fact that he is cited in the MSM as a source of support for Obama's pdf, but now he is saying Obama's functionaries are looking like they are committing misconduct to protect him is worthy of interest for FReeprs. The letter Dr. Conspiracy received in response to his FOIA request _is_ evidence of misconduct IMO.

17 posted on 09/28/2011 10:54:38 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Three questions:
(1) Didn’t I read somewhere that on one of Obama Sr’s immigration forms, he stated that Stanley Ann was in the Philippines?
(2) Isn’t there a picture of a young Stanley Ann wearing a school uniform of a private school overseas, I believe Lebanon?
(3) Donofrio addressed the FOIA request of SA’s passport records, and came up with a request, correctly worded, that the Dept. would have a hard time avoiding. I would imagine Dr. Conspiracy has seen his post...


18 posted on 09/29/2011 6:11:54 AM PDT by Sallyven
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To: bushpilot1
Dr. Conspiracy is a known liar and fraud. Surprised you would post a link to the website.

Amen to that brother! I've argued with him and his cohort for a couple of weeks. They are dishonest to the point that they even lie to themselves.

However, I find Dr. Conspiracy's suggesting something might be amiss with Ann's passport records very interesting indeed. I perceive him to be primarily a partisan and Obama's not doing so well among Democrats lately. (Stupid saps finally figured out the man is an idiot.) Dr. Conspiracy may be setting himself up for a "I knew there was something fishy all along" kinda of walk back.

In other words, it is another indication that Obama's allies might be turning on him. We can only hope.

People sowing seeds of suspicion regarding Obama is something the country needs, especially if it comes from the left.

19 posted on 09/29/2011 6:40:11 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Texas Fossil
That travel would have been a lot more logical as Stanley Ann had an Aunt who lived for a time in Canada. And live on the border of Canada at the time Obozo was said to have been born.

Living in Newfoundland in 1959. Later living in Blaine Washington, but I have not seen any evidence which demonstrates she was living there in 1961. I HAVE seen a comment from someone who claims to know the family saying she absolutely was NOT living there in 1961. I consider the point to still be an open question. Any evidence pro or con would be welcome.

20 posted on 09/29/2011 6:56:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

I would not argue the point. I simply don’t believe he was born in HI, nor do I believe he was born in Kenya.

Proximity to Washington state and the university very shortly after his birth would seem more credible.

There have been suggestions that at the time there were many unwed mother homes near there.

Any honest examination of his birth story leads to the conclusion it is all a lie. And credibility has gotten worse over time.

He IS a FRAUD.


21 posted on 09/29/2011 7:04:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Meet the New Boss
"The big question is: was the passport issued to Stanley Ann in July 1965 which she used to travel to Indonesia her first passport or was it a renewal of an earlier passport? If it was a renewal, then maybe she DID hold a passport at the time people claim she went to Kenya (or Canada?) to birth little Barky."

If this is a true record and not some faked hooey from our government, the 1965 passport application is a RENEWAL. She renewed her passports every 5 years so the previous one should have been summer of 1960. It's conceivable she got a passport after graduating from high school so the question is where did she travel on it?

22 posted on 09/29/2011 7:26:28 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: Sallyven
(1) Didn’t I read somewhere that on one of Obama Sr’s immigration forms, he stated that Stanley Ann was in the Philippines?

Yes, in the April 27, 1964 letter it stated an unnamed wife, a US citizen, was in the Phillipines. If this wife is Stanley Ann, the 1965 passport renewal is consistent with a previous passport that has not been released. See page 21 of link:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File

(2) Isn’t there a picture of a young Stanley Ann wearing a school uniform of a private school overseas, I believe Lebanon?

It's been discussed that this is the Collège Notre Dame de Jamhour,” a secondary Jesuit school in Beirut, Lebanon. However, some claim the school was an all boys school at that time though it is currently coed. I haven't seen concrete evidence of this nor have I seen any evidence of their uniforms or insignias in the mid 1950s.

23 posted on 09/29/2011 8:00:54 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: bgill

Re: 1960...

There has been some speculation that the Communist-affiliated Unitarian Church the Dunhams attended in Washington state went on a “friendship mission” to Castro’s Cuba that summer...


24 posted on 09/29/2011 9:17:54 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: bgill
“Yes, in the April 27, 1964 letter it stated an unnamed wife, a US citizen, was in the Phillipines.”

Note that this was hearsay by the INS official recounting what he says was either told to him by Obama Sr. or that he gleaned from some other source.

Given the date, April 1964, what knowledge would Obama Sr. have had about the actual whereabouts of Stanley Ann after the divorce proceedings in January and February of that year?

The INS was fully aware of the alleged marriage to Dunham and there is not any other hint of a marriage to a different woman prior to 1964 is contained in the INS FOIA other than to Kezia back in Kenya.

25 posted on 09/29/2011 10:12:59 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Meet the New Boss

We know that the 1965 passport was not a renewal of an earlier passport. The regulations at the time stated that a passport could only be renewed once. Since a renewal application was dated in 1968 (based on FOIA documents), the 1965 passport it renewed was an initial issue.

That does not preclude her having an earlier passport. Meet the New Boss hits the nail on the head, though. The big question is whether Stanley Ann Dunham had a passport in 1961, and that question remains unanswered, although I think we will know the answer eventually.

While I do suspect misconduct on the part of the State Department insofar as they are dragging their feet, I do not believe that they made any false statements in the responses them sent me.


26 posted on 09/29/2011 10:21:17 AM PDT by Doc Conspiracy (Fishing for gold coins in a bucket of mud)
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To: Seizethecarp

“I have to wonder whether even he has become tired of carrying Obama’s water. “

The Obama Conspiracy Theories blog now has 1,623 articles on it, and that is a lot, even when spread over nearly 3 years. Nonetheless, the birthers keep at it and there’s always something new.

As for the person who said “Dr. Conspiracy is a known liar and fraud,” that comment says more about the one who said it than me. I have a clear conscience that I have done the best I can to present the best information available and to present the evidence fairly. If anyone thinks I got something wrong, they are welcome to say so. I make mistakes from time to time and when I discover one, I fix it.

The byline on my blog (Fishing for gold coins in a bucket of mud) is important to understanding the blog and my recent comment on Stanley Ann Dunham’s passport FOIA. I am continuing to review birther writing to see if there is something valid — the “gold coin.” If the Department of State does cough up a 1961 passport issuance card for Dunham, I’ll publish it. That’s not what someone “carrying Obama’s water” would do.


27 posted on 09/29/2011 10:42:10 AM PDT by Doc Conspiracy (Fishing for gold coins in a bucket of mud)
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To: Seizethecarp

“Dr. Conspiracy says he is following up on this discrepancy himself on the phone and it sounds like he might try yet another more carefully worded FOIA request.”

Filing another request is what the FOIA appeals officer suggested, but I reject that for two reasons. First, my original request was correctly worded to cover all records of passports issued. Second, it took me 32 months to get this far and I don’t want to start over with another 32-month trek.

No, if I can’t get this resolved through the normal administrative channels, my only viable option is to sue.
A lawsuit is a big step in time and money and not something to be entered into lightly. Plus, I’m a Christian and Jesus taught us to avoid lawsuits.


28 posted on 09/29/2011 10:42:15 AM PDT by Doc Conspiracy (Fishing for gold coins in a bucket of mud)
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To: Doc Conspiracy; LucyT; butterdezillion; Danae
“While I do suspect misconduct on the part of the State Department insofar as they are dragging their feet, I do not believe that they made any false statements in the responses them sent me.”

Of course not! Just like the HI DOH used weasel words and foot-dragging to avoid making false statements regarding whether Obama could request and release his LFBC, or whether grandparents could make a false birth report to gain US citizenship for a foreign born baby which could result in the same newspaper announcements and short form BC on the record for Obama.

Now you, Dr. Conspiracy, appear to be having the same kind of suspicions of misconduct by INS that “birthers” have had about HI DOH and Obama misconduct...misconduct that let LTC Lakin go to the brig but which you have previously scoffed at, IIRC.

29 posted on 09/29/2011 11:32:41 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Doc Conspiracy
“I have a clear conscience that I have done the best I can to present the best information available and to present the evidence fairly. If anyone thinks I got something wrong, they are welcome to say so. I make mistakes from time to time and when I discover one, I fix it.”

You regard yourself as a truth-seeker first and partisan second, as do I. Of course, we are both biased!

I have always been treated fairly by you on your blog (thank you), and you have been willing to discuss claims and evidence on the merits without ad hominem attacks, even though I disagree with many of your assertions and conclusions.

30 posted on 09/29/2011 11:43:26 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Red Steel

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2785212/posts?page=27#27


31 posted on 09/29/2011 11:55:14 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Doc Conspiracy; LucyT; butterdezillion; Danae; WhizCodger
“I am continuing to review birther writing to see if there is something valid — the “gold coin.” If the Department of State does cough up a 1961 passport issuance card for Dunham, I’ll publish it. That’s not what someone “carrying Obama’s water” would do.”

Fine. You are not “carrying Obama’s water _now_!

However your claimed generosity in allowing for the possibility that there might be a “gold coin” in the bucket of “birther” mud is not as open minded and truth-seeking as you seem to think it is.

“Birthers” were mocked on your blog but ultimately vindicated on the availability of an LFBC for Obama from HI DOH. During the three years of denial of that availability, not to mention the very existence of an HI LFBC, you “carried Obama’s water” by belittling “birther” analysis and claims, such as those by butterdezillion and Danae, that HI DOH and Obama were evasive, dissembling and dishonest in their public statements regarding whether Obama and HI DOH could produce his LFBC...IMO, of course.

Specifically, the last time I was on your blog, IIRC, I argued that FReeper Danae had produced what appeared to be credible proof that an HI citizen could still request and receive a LFBC. I regard your response to my arguments as "carrying Obama's water" and Danae has been vindicated.

More recently, I regard your assessment of the evidence assembled by Corsi (and being reviewed by Arpaio)as to whether the pdf "released" by Obama is genuine to be less than balanced.

32 posted on 09/29/2011 12:20:29 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Doc Conspiracy

Hi Dr. C!!!

You said:”I make mistakes from time to time and when I discover one, I fix it.”

Then, you need to apologize for calling me a racist and threatening to ban me for doing exactly the same thing as you Obots were doing. Because that was just plain wrong.


33 posted on 09/29/2011 12:28:47 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Doc Conspiracy
Dr Conspiracy banned BS'ing Dr Conspiracy banned
34 posted on 09/29/2011 1:03:07 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Seizethecarp; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...
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. . . . Back to the thread. Begin at # 10 - and read comments to end of page.

Check out graphics, too.

Thanks, Seizethecarp.

35 posted on 09/29/2011 1:08:12 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Doc Conspiracy

Noooo...

Jesus said no such thing.

Paul wrote that Christians should not sue one another but rahter settle their differences out of court. Believer vs. believer quarrels reflect badly on the church.

Not applicable in this case.


36 posted on 09/29/2011 1:23:58 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: LucyT

Dr. Conspiracy August 16, 2011 at 9:59 am

“And what are the fruits of birtherism?

Anger, wrath, lying, slander, pride, bitterness, malice, violent language, blasphemy, enmity, disputes, clamor, abusive speech, anxiety, family discord and foolishness.”


37 posted on 09/29/2011 1:54:15 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: LucyT

Dr. Conspiracy July 18, 2010 at 2:46 pm

yguy: Obviously, and it’s because of people like you that America is sinking into despotism.

Dr C “No, the Tea Party hasn’t taken over yet.”


38 posted on 09/29/2011 2:04:51 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Seizethecarp

bump


39 posted on 09/29/2011 2:12:16 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Meet the New Boss; LucyT
...But it is worth noting that the passport issued in July 1965 was NOT issued in the name she was then using, Stanley Ann Soetoro...

MARRIAGE DATE: March 15, 1965

MARRIAGE DATE: March 5, 1964

APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL OF Passport issued JULY 19, 1965.

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TWO previous marriage dates, she's grown five inches taller, the divorce from the kenyan was finalized March 20, 1964.

Lolo Soetoro also gives a March 1964 marriage date, although he couldn't recall on what DAY they married...

Seems obvious why prior passport data' have been destroyed' doesn't it? What might prior data have revealed?

40 posted on 09/29/2011 2:31:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Sallyven
(1) Didn’t I read somewhere that on one of Obama Sr’s immigration forms, he stated that Stanley Ann was in the Philippines?

No, the document references "wife" in the Philippines. No name of wife. No doubt the mysterious "Anna 0bama".

(2) Isn’t there a picture of a young Stanley Ann wearing a school uniform of a private school overseas, I believe Lebanon?

There was speculation about the school uniform but IIRC it was ascertained that the jumper initials referred to a school in the US, not overseas.

41 posted on 09/29/2011 3:01:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...
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Really! Back to the thread again.

TWO previous marriage dates, - she's grown five inches taller, the divorce from the kenyan was finalized March 20, 1964.

Lolo Soetoro also gives a March 1964 marriage date, although he couldn't recall on what DAY they married...

Seems obvious why prior passport data' have been destroyed' doesn't it? What might prior data have revealed?

SAD wasn't the mother. - Fred, the whole point is to wear everyone down so they will give up. [Illegitimi non carborundum.]

. . . . See Graphics and also check Fred Nerks' comments at # 40.

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42 posted on 09/29/2011 3:11:08 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT
...[Illegitimi non carborundum.]

thanks for reminding me, once in a while I forget.

43 posted on 09/29/2011 3:21:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Jedidah

Faux Christians make those kinds of mistakes. Recall the ‘he who is without sin, caste the first stone’ being tossed out by the pretend christians defending the sleazy sinkEmperor? And we’re constantly being told Jesus would not get angry, when we chastise with vigor over the lies leftists try to pedal at FR. Or the ... oh, never mind. Freepers Christians already know this stuff and the stealth liberals aren’t going to awaken from their lostness just because we point out their inconsistencies. One of the hallmarks of liberals, leftists, and progressives is their anchorless sliding moral scale and belief that they are superior to those they deign to address.


44 posted on 09/29/2011 4:00:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: bgill; All

It’s conceivable she got a passport after graduating from high school so the question is where did she travel on it?


With the marxist influence and upbringing, I would not be surporised if she travelled to an island located 90 miles from Key West, FL. This island just underwent a revolution and would be a magnet for other wanna revolutionaries.

Hawaii and Kenya are smokescreens. Obama’s real daddy might be a negro Cuban for all we know.


45 posted on 09/29/2011 5:08:37 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: LucyT; All

Saps, Stool Pigeons And Stanley Ann’s Hair

“If David Brooks at The New York Times feels he was taken for a ‘sap’ by Barack Obama, we shudder to think how everyday Americans will feel, once they find out the Truth.”

http://terribletruth.wordpress.com/


46 posted on 09/29/2011 5:15:55 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Great article. Amazing the level of deceit that encompasses this president.


47 posted on 09/29/2011 6:32:27 PM PDT by Faith
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To: little jeremiah

See link in post 46.


48 posted on 09/29/2011 6:33:16 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Faith

Did you read the latest Ulsterman? Sounds as though Fauxbama is near mental breakdown for real, Mrs. Fauxbama is going to explode in an angry tantrum in public soon, and most of the Dem party honchos hate him.

:-)

Will check link.


49 posted on 09/29/2011 6:44:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Faith

Well well WELL well well:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2785684/posts

Fmr. Clinton Adviser: ‘Very Possible’ Obama Will Bow Out of Presidential Race - For Now
CNS News ^ | Sept., 29, 2011 | Grant Dahl


50 posted on 09/29/2011 6:45:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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