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Obama Administration Complicit in Murdering Mexicans in Covert War on Mexico
Bloggers and Personal ^ | 12 Oct 11 | Xzins

Posted on 10/12/2011 9:48:07 AM PDT by xzins

On October 11, Eric Holder broke the news that Iran had been engaged in a covert war against the United States, and had even sent an agent to the U.S. to involve Mexican drug cartels as accomplices in a plot to murder the Saudi Arabian ambassador to the United States.

What is truly amazing about this is that Eric Holder has been engaged in his own covert war against Mexico and Mexicans for the past two years. In the bizarre world of Washington D.C., the Obama Administration was doing the same thing against the Mexican government that it accused Iran of doing against the United States. It has been arming Mexican drug cartels with thousands of highly lethal battlefield weapons. The cartels have been using those weapons to deadly effect against Mexican officials and Mexican citizens. Hundreds of Mexicans have been killed in cold blood with weapons intentionally provided to them by the Obama Administration.

As recently as Saturday, October 8, the Los Angeles Times reported:

High-powered assault weapons illegally purchased under the ATF's Fast and Furious program in Phoenix ended up in a home belonging to the purported top Sinaloa cartel enforcer in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, whose organization was terrorizing that city with the worst violence in the Mexican drug wars.http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-atf-guns-20111009,0,6431788.story

In addition to the blood spilled in Mexico, blood has also been spilled in the US. U.S. Border Agent, Brian Terry, murdered in a firefight against the Mexican cartel on the U.S. side of the border, has had the weapons used to kill him positively identified as being among those GIVEN to the drug cartels by the Obama Administration. In a conversation reported by CBS News, Terry’s death is callously dismissed as “collateral damage.” (See http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20109529-10391695.html)

While Eric Holder might plead "not guilty" to the above charges, the facts remain the same. If it is not murder and a covert war, the Obama Administration is left with only one more honorable explanation: they could plead gross incompetence and hundreds of grossly negligent homicides.

The Obama Administration has been a major participant in hundreds of Mexicans being murdered. It has provided deadly arms to the Mexican government's number one public enemy, the blood-thirsty Mexican drug cartels. To date, Mexico has not filed charges in either the World Court or at the United Nations.

Will it do so? Mexico's attorney general, Marisela Morales, quoted in the Los Angeles Times said that:

deliberately letting weapons "walk" into Mexico ...would represent a "betrayal" of [her] country

At this point, the investigation into the Obama Administration's covert war on Mexico has been hampered by obvious obstruction from Eric Holder, the U.S. Attorney General, a man whose incompetence has permitted this travesty to go on.

Morales, Mexico's attorney general, ...told The Times that she first learned about Fast and Furious from news reports. And to this day, she said, U.S. officials have not briefed her on the operation...nor have they apologized. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico-fast-furious-20110920,0,6511144,full.story

"At no time ...In no way would we have allowed it, because it is an attack on the safety of Mexicans."

To repeat, Morales said that directing weapons into Mexico to be used against Mexican citizens and the Mexican government is "a betrayal of [her] country."

The Obama Administration owes more than it can ever repay to the families of Mexican murder victims. At the least, it could acknowledge some grave error and begin making reparations to those struck down in cold blood with U.S. provided weapons.

Due process should result in criminal charges. These will be small consolation for the murder victims of the Obama Administration’s covert war on Mexico.


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1 posted on 10/12/2011 9:48:11 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

The plan must have been to start a war with Mexico so that illegal immigrants could be classified as ‘refugees’.

Do I need a sarcasm or satire tag?


2 posted on 10/12/2011 9:53:38 AM PDT by sodpoodle (God is ignoring me - because He is watching you)
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To: sodpoodle; P-Marlowe; wmfights
Good question. :>)

Sarcasm tag or not, it sure looks like an act of war, doesn't it? Arming another nation's enemies....how is that not an act of war?

3 posted on 10/12/2011 9:56:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Girlene; jazusamo; Lancey Howard; smoothsailing; onyx; Cincinatus' Wife; ...

Obama’s covert war on Mexico


4 posted on 10/12/2011 10:00:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

Any reparations should be paid by those individuals that acted outside the law not the US govt, but the “rogue” President, AG and their co-conspirators. Empty their pockets and then put them in jail (in Mexico)


5 posted on 10/12/2011 10:02:21 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: xzins

My “Commander and Chief” in June of 1971 “Officially” Declared a “War on Drugs”, subsequently Congress Agreed and passed Legislation authorizing the “War on Drugs”. Every Commander and Chief since Nixon has “UPHELD” the “War on Drugs” and so has EVERY SESSION OF CONGRESS, in fact Congress has been actively supporting and passing new legislation in support of “THE WAR ON DRUGS” ever since.

Eric Holder and Company willfully and knowingly supplied ARMS to the ENEMY in THE WAR ON DRUGS, Every last one of them should be charged with TREASON. They should have already been CONVICTED and EXECUTED by now.

So I disagree, it is not an “Act of War” we are ALREADY AT WAR, it is an ACT OF TREASON in the CURRENT WAR.


6 posted on 10/12/2011 10:03:17 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: rolling_stone

I agree the co-conspirators should be jailed.

However, sadly, these are the officials America has elected to represent us.

These incompetents have left our nation with innocent blood on our hands. We must make reparation.


7 posted on 10/12/2011 10:04:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: eyeamok

This, however, was a war on Mexico.

While the “treason in the war on drugs” angle has some logic behind it, it does not mitigate that we armed the enemies of Mexico.


8 posted on 10/12/2011 10:06:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

The REALITY is.....NOT IRAN! Ping.


9 posted on 10/12/2011 10:17:55 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: xzins

These incompetents have left our nation with innocent blood on our hands. We must make reparation.

They were not incompetent it was a poorly conceived plan to restrict the rights of American Citizens in violation of US and International law and against the Constitution of the US. I am not responsible for lawbreakers actions. Every last penny of those who dreamed up this plan, implemented it or allowed it to happen in violation of law should be seized to pay for damages on both sides of the border.


10 posted on 10/12/2011 10:20:30 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: xzins

This government has to be held accountable. They have turned us into an international rogue terrorist nation. May G-d forgive us


11 posted on 10/12/2011 10:22:11 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: xzins

I started adding this morning and I came up with a scary number. 1. obama & holder wont let Arizona protect their borders. 2. obama & holder walked guns to mexican cartel. 3. same mexican cartel get busted for murder for hire plot with Iran.

Is 3 the reason obama & holder have fought sooooo hard to keep Arizona from protecting the boarder? That’s the scary number.


12 posted on 10/12/2011 10:22:35 AM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: rolling_stone

They will not do what’s right.

We should do what’s right. Those families deserve reparations.


13 posted on 10/12/2011 10:23:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: rolling_stone

Imagine yourself an innocent German citizen in WWII. Who cared that it was the German government that started it all? No one.


14 posted on 10/12/2011 10:24:49 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: GloriaJane

I forgot to add, were they giving the guns to the bad guys to help Iran against us?


15 posted on 10/12/2011 10:25:03 AM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: xzins

Wow! This is an act of war by the King Obama empire against Mexico. And anyone that thinks King Obama is not directly involved in this act of war is nuts. Holder is responsible being totally informed and did nothing to stop the gift of guns to the cartel in Mexico..


16 posted on 10/12/2011 10:25:45 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: xzins

Hey! Everybody! Look over there at Iran!


17 posted on 10/12/2011 10:27:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GloriaJane

There was no connection to a mexican cartel. The FBI used a toadie in its Houston office to PRETEND he was a zeta operative.


18 posted on 10/12/2011 10:28:14 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: GloriaJane

There was no connection to a mexican cartel. The FBI used a toadie in its Houston office to PRETEND he was a zeta operative.


19 posted on 10/12/2011 10:28:27 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: xzins

Maybe you didn’t realize that you Just Made my POINT, They are also Our Enemy in the “War on Drugs” as well as Mexico’s enemy in their “War on Drugs”. This was DIRECTLY aimed at our Enemies and Mexico’s Enemies, for they are “Officially” our “Allies” in the War on Drugs. They Willfully and Knowingly aided and abetted and supplied ARMS to Our’s and Mexico’s Mutual ENEMY in the WAR ON DRUGS. This is the exact time to Throw The War on Drugs right back in their faces. CHARGE,CONVICT,EXECUTE.

TREASON it is


20 posted on 10/12/2011 10:28:42 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: MestaMachine

ok, thanks. I didn’t know that.


21 posted on 10/12/2011 10:29:41 AM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: Travis McGee

Exactly!

(And Iran is doing against us what we appeared to be doing against Mexico.)

Can you imagine this fictional account: “Fox News Alert - Top Sinaloa cartel enforcer in Ciudad Juarez, Jose Marrufo, has been found with U.S. arms to be used against Mexico, the Mexican attorney general announced today. See the roundtable report with Brett Baier and Charles Krauthammer at 6. “


22 posted on 10/12/2011 10:39:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: eyeamok

Darn good point. Add the fact that AZ had passed a tough immigration law Obama and pals did not like. Holder may have just as well pulled the trigger on those border patrol types. If I sell a weapon to a known violent criminal-I am responsible for the actions he commits with that weapon as I knew he may well use it to commit a violent crime.


23 posted on 10/12/2011 10:40:01 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: eyeamok

Darn good point. Add the fact that AZ had passed a tough immigration law Obama and pals did not like. Holder may have just as well pulled the trigger on those border patrol types. If I sell a weapon to a known violent criminal-I am responsible for the actions he commits with that weapon as I knew he may well use it to commit a violent crime.


24 posted on 10/12/2011 10:40:22 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: xzins

Excellent point.

Extreme hypocrisy for Holder to make that particular announcement.


25 posted on 10/12/2011 10:42:33 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: xzins

So when’s the perp walk?


26 posted on 10/12/2011 10:45:46 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: xzins

Bingo


27 posted on 10/12/2011 10:48:45 AM PDT by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: xzins

Thanks for the ping!


28 posted on 10/12/2011 10:53:13 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

You are welcome sister. Does our nation have blood on its hands in this? The spirit within me says it does.


29 posted on 10/12/2011 11:00:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: arkady_renko

Too many are calling this bad policy, an attorney general over-reach, or even a grave injustice.

What it is in plain English:

complicit murder

covert warfare


30 posted on 10/12/2011 11:02:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
It does. Genesis 18 comes to mind as does the assurance:

And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, [even] Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. - I Th 1:10

For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, - I Th 5:9

Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. - Revelation 3:10

God's Name is I AM.

31 posted on 10/12/2011 11:15:23 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: xzins
However, sadly, these are the officials America has elected to represent us.

These incompetents have left our nation with innocent blood on our hands. We must make reparation

The people of the United States elected Barrack Obama, it's true. The understanding that accompanied his election to Office was as the Chief Executive he would support and defend the Constitution of the United States and hold the best interests of our Nation to heart.

He has done neither and almost from the beginning of his term he has generated such worry and concern for our future as any foreign enemy would be pleased to do.

But we as citizens, restless as we have grown, remain constrained by Law and an abiding respect of Order, have only the election process to look forward to to remove the suspected domestic enemy from the Office the American voter put him in.

Because of those restrictions we honor I do not believe we as a People are responsible for paying reparation.

The Executive branch used the increasing violence in Mexico in an action designed to cause harm to We, the People. The responsibility for the tragic deaths of Mexicans caused by treasonous actions of our political leadership should be borne by the perps, not their intended victims.

There are thousands and thousands of US citizens lying in graves because of a criminal collusion between our political leadership and Mexico's. Where's the cries for reparations for our dead?

32 posted on 10/12/2011 11:33:43 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: MurrietaMadman

We are already talking hundreds of Mexican families murdered. We haven’t included the injured. And we haven’t found but a small percentage of the guns allowed to walk, so hundreds more are going to be killed.

We could take every dime owned by Obama and Holder and not have enough to begin to pay even the funeral bills.

An honorable family cleans up its own messes.


33 posted on 10/12/2011 11:38:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

Has Comrade Obama been trying to foment a Marxist revolution to overthrow the Mexican government?

Naah. Couldn’t be.


34 posted on 10/12/2011 11:45:13 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Fresh Wind

One has to wonder what they thought would happen with those weapons.


35 posted on 10/12/2011 11:46:31 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

And I am talking about thousands of dead Americans and who knows how many hundreds of thousands injured by invaders.

Those are losses and damages that would not have happened had our borders been taken seriously by our political leadership and Mexico’s political leadership did not openly encourage the invasion.

Obama, Holder, Neapolitano, Clinton and everyone else whose fingers were in the pie certainly do have the means to pay for hundreds of funerals. Get your brain out of your guilt burdened mind.

An honorable family cleans up its own messes. That’s a lot of hooyey in this case.

I’ll tell you what, You lead an effort to get Mexico and Dominican Republic and Honduras and all the other countries the invaders crawled out of to come here and kill Americans in a drunken stupor or a drunken rage or just for the hell of it and I will consider your honorable family claptrap.


36 posted on 10/12/2011 11:59:33 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: GloriaJane
I was listening to Internet radio, a random station out of AZ. There were constant commercials from the government, targeting Latinos to get health screenings, tests, and other government paid service.
37 posted on 10/12/2011 12:01:22 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: xzins

Need I say more?

38 posted on 10/12/2011 12:05:52 PM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: xzins

Does Iran-Contra ring a bell.


39 posted on 10/12/2011 12:14:36 PM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: GregNH

Will this be pursued with the relish that Iran-Contra was pursued? I seriously doubt it, but the culpability remains the same.


40 posted on 10/12/2011 12:39:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: GregNH

I believe it will eventually be shown that this went all the way to the Oval Office.


41 posted on 10/12/2011 1:44:52 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
Obama’s covert war on Mexico

Without a doubt. An official government operation to arm organized crime syndicates in a foreign nation is tantamount to state-sponsored terrorism. I can think of no other comparable name for such an act.

42 posted on 10/12/2011 2:00:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: xzins
Correction: I’ll tell you what, You lead an effort to get reparations from Mexico and Dominican Republic and Honduras and all the other countries the invaders crawled out of to come here and kill Americans in a drunken stupor or a drunken rage or just for the hell of it and I will consider your honorable family claptrap
43 posted on 10/12/2011 2:03:10 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: All
Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas July 22, 2011

44 posted on 10/12/2011 3:21:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

BM for later


45 posted on 10/12/2011 3:23:52 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: MurrietaMadman

Sure, as soon as you explain to me why you don’t think Fast and Furious is criminal activity. I can’t believe you’re protecting the Obama Administration like this.


46 posted on 10/12/2011 3:24:59 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
And all of that calculated and planned to what end? I think we know - but do we?

Nothing these guys do just 'happened'. Somebody has the big plan drawn up somewhere.

Mexico should draw up charges and seek extradition.

47 posted on 10/12/2011 4:05:01 PM PDT by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: arkady_renko

Maybe Obama’s Job’s Bill chant over and over is only a distraction to keep the msm busy so they do not concentrate on Fast and Furious.


48 posted on 10/12/2011 4:34:21 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Travis McGee
Hey! Everybody! Look over there at Iran!

Bingo. We are being governed by complete criminal idiots. Obama and Holder are accessories to the Iranian criminal plot. They sold Fast and Furious High Caliber Sniper Rifles to the Mexican Drug Cartels who are now implicated in an assassination plot within the US. Obama has run back to the devil pit that spawned him, the Roman Senate, and no doubt our traitorous Roman Senators are trying to come up with some convoluted plot to save his stinky but.

49 posted on 10/12/2011 5:46:49 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: MestaMachine
The FBI used a toadie in its Houston office to PRETEND he was a zeta operative.

The same FBI that was involved with running high caliber sniper rifles to the Mexican Drug Cartels ? The only reason the assassination plot was viable was due to the gun running where 50 caliber sniper rifles were sent to the cartels. And the FBI helped in the gun running.

50 posted on 10/12/2011 5:51:49 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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