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Polls the Gee-Oh-Pee Don't Want You to See
Reaganite Republican ^ | January 6, 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 01/06/2012 5:03:29 AM PST by Reaganite Republican

All I'm hearing from those-who-like-to-tell-us-how-to-vote (MSM/GOP establishment/Ann Coulter) this week is how Romney is "feeling confident" while Rick Santorum is soaring 
(an unsinspiring politician Romney/Obama would love to face), yet Reaganite warrior Newt Gingrich (of whom they are both terrifiedis now 'demoralized', with 'little chance of winning', etc... and all this derived from a vote count representing of just 4% of Iowa's tiny, rural population

Yes, MSM/Left know perfectly well that this is the flakiest GOP primary electorate in history -and Santorum not even 10% as brutally-vetted/slandered as Bachmann, Cain, and Gingrich have been: might be good to consider at this point why some are trying to make so much hay of his sudden rise when they without fail labeled all other candidates' previous surges 'unlikely to last'... then did their damndest to ensure it all went to script.

Unsurprisingly, Santorum -who nearly won Iowa by merit of being the last conservative nobody bothered to attack- is benefiting from increased (read 'any') exposure, enjoying at long last a bump in the polls. Liberals are loving it right along with Rick, as they know he will never be president... and their preference -Mittens of Massachusetts- will undoubtedly do the least damage to the far-Left's legislative 'progress' of the last three years, not repealing ObamaCare, etc- and thus legitimizing the vile Obammunist era forever. If you could force-feed Romney a truth-serum and ask him who he'd prefer to compete with going down the stretch... I think we all know it's not Gingrich.

But if you're as concerned about defeating Obama as I am, it's unsettling to see people flock overnight to an unaccomplished, unimpressive candidate who was unable to gather more than a smidgeon of support until all more appealing alternatives were damaged in ruthless media/PAC assaults. Yes, there's a reason Santorum was almost-completely ignored for all of 2011, and voters in November's general would surely be just as underwhelmed as have been most Republicans- right up until last week, anyway.

The reality?  

Mittens has jumped out-front nationally by a few points again, too... but while studying the Republican primary schedule, I found a sampling of the most recent polls in some key upcoming primary/caucus states eye-opening.

Granted, there's certain to be some movement in the wake of Iowa and on the eve of an almost-certain Romney win in NH... but just get a load of some of these margins from the latest- available polling- sure doesn't look anything like the picture painted by Newt's insiduous opponents...
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South Carolina: (primary Jan 21)

Gingrich 38%, Romney 21, Paul 10, Perry 5

Virginia: (Super-Tuesday/only Romney + Paul on ballot)
Gingrich 41%, Romney 15, Perry 8, Paul 6, Santorum 6

Georgia: (primary Super-Tuesday  Mar 6)
Gingrich 65%, Romney 12, Perry 4, Santorum 1

California: (primary June 5)
Gingrich 33%, Romney 25, Paul 9, Perry 4, Santorum 4

Pennsylvania (Santorum's home state!):
Gingrich 32%, Romney 12, Santorum 12, Paul 9  (PPP)

Gingrich 31%, Romney 17, Santorum 9, (Quinnipac)

Florida: (primary Jan 31)
Romney 27%, Gingrich 26% (statistical dead-heat)

Colorado: (caucus Feb 7)
Gingrich 37%, Romney 12, Santorum 12, Paul 9
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IMHO it would serve conservatives well to realize they're being manipulated by the Left, MSM, and Romney-ite RINO wing of the party... those attacking Gingrich fear him for the most base, self-serving reasons- consider the source of the jive you're hearing and think for yourself about who's the most qualified and skilled to debate and defeat Barrack Hussein Obama.

Only Newt Gingrich has the encyclopedic recall of historical/political facts that can put serial-prevaricator Obama -a man who's whole gig is based on b&%#$ing you- back on his heels for all to see. 

Newt's powerful appeal to Reaganite conservatives coast-to-coast is what keeps Obama, the MSM/Left, and GOP old-guard up at night -not Rick Santorum-... small wonder they don't like to talk about it.

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To: TADSLOS
Thanks for the headsup......the numbers tell it all.

Here's a script for a great Newt ad: "Romney still gets a salary from Bain taxed at the low 15% capital gains rate....his wealth is hidden in blind trusts to avoid paying taxes.If Romney really cared about this country he'd start paying taxes like the rest of us."

21 posted on 01/06/2012 7:05:06 AM PST by Liz
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To: Reaganite Republican

"Vote Count Error? Did Rick Santorum Really Win the Iowa Caucuses?
DES MOINES, Iowa - Edward True, 28, of Moulton, said he helped count the votes
and jotted the results down on a piece of paper to post to his Facebook page.
He said when he checked to make sure the Republican Party of Iowa
got the count right, he said he was shocked to find they hadn’t.
“When Mitt Romney won Iowa by eight votes and I’ve got a
20-vote discrepancy here, that right there says Rick Santorum won Iowa,” True said. “Not Mitt Romney.”


"Several UNREPORTED news reports have it that Romney
did not win the Iowa Caucuses.
Barring any objective, verifiable proof that shows more than 12 votes mistakenly
being credited to Santorum, Romney lost."


"Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? (Santorum may regain win)"



22 posted on 01/06/2012 8:02:19 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Oh, year, about Newt’s record...

He has done more to put Ronald Reagan’s conservative policies into government practice than anyone else presently running for the Republican Party presidential nominee position.

I usually ignore endorsements, as they’re generally quid pro quo arrangements, but Gingrich is now endorsed by Michael Reagan, Art Laffer, and numerous other former Reagan administration officials. LTC West has agreed to be Gingrich’s running mate (or so I’ve read on FR) and John Bolton has agreed to be Secretary of State. That is impressive.

When Newt was in Congress, President George H.W.Bush had decided to announce he would work with the Congress and raise taxes, thus violating his “Read my lips...” promise. Congressman Gingrich wouldn’t support that action. I view Newt’s act as conservative, and not the action of a RINO.

Newt Gingrich is pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment and loves America and understands its citizens. As a historian, he thoroughly knows the U.S. Constitution and our nation’s history.

He allied himself with Ronald Reagan to build the Reagan Coalition, the Religious Right, and the Republican majority (together the Reagan Revolution) which directly led the downfall of the Soviet Union, the Contract with America, government reforms, less government, tax cuts, a balanced budget, and the great, longstanding Reagan economy.

Washington is broken, it doesn’t work the way it is supposed to and Newt said, if elected, he will work to change the way Washington does business. You better believe the elitists who suck money off of government contracts are terrified he will be elected.

He knows where the bodies are buried.

He knows where the skeletons are hidden.

He knows about the secret ways and byways by which influence peddling moves in Washington.

When a middle-class citizen is elected to Congress and returns home 20 years later a multimillionaire, it is due to corruption in government. And that influence pedaling corruption may even be legal!

We have to change Washington in order to get our nation back on the right track.

I believe that Newt Gingrich is the only candidate with true leadership ability who can and will change Washington, D.C. He isn’t perfect. Who is? But I believe at this time, at this juncture in in nation’s existence, he can lead this country away from the abyss of socialism and will right the ship of state.

He has a long political resume and acknowledges that he has made mistakes - like sitting on that sofa with Nancy Pelosi. But Sir Winston Churchill fluctuated between being a Conservative and a Liberal, and was even labeled a madman by some in England, yet he had the leadership to save Great Britain.

Let’s hope Newt Gingrich, with all his imperfections, can do the same for us.


23 posted on 01/06/2012 9:51:40 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Reaganite Republican; musicman; TitansAFC; katiedidit1; PhilDragoo; TexasFreeper2009

You’re doing an awesome job. Thank you very much. I hope we can add worthy links to your work, like musicman has.


24 posted on 01/06/2012 9:58:11 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Implies conclusions not in evidence. "Yes, there's a reason Santorum was almost-completely ignored for all of 2011, and voters in November's general would surely be just as underwhelmed as have been most Republicans- right up until last week, anyway." Yes, and the reason is he hasn't had any money. Now he does. The presidency is for those who have the 2000 lb gonads to step up and take it. I've liked the idea of Rick Santorum for a very long time. He is the anti-dO-te.
25 posted on 01/06/2012 9:59:09 AM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Santorum.)
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To: onyx

Thank you kindly, brother

I was going to ping you on this one actually- but you always seem to pop up in the comments

The attacks on Newt -as well as those gullible enough to be swayed by them- have got me a bit worked up... little of this rubbish Romney put out was true, and NONE of it new- if somebody backed Newt before and has been scared off, they must have had no idea who they were backing


26 posted on 01/06/2012 10:13:27 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

Very interesting, and very savvy of you to be on top of this:
It looks like the MSM/fake-poll-spun Romney may wind up being
Gingrich’s warm-up act, as Romney ideally (to me) may serve as a stand-in for the final opponent, Obama.
Gingrich, primarily, but all others collectively may help in delivering slow-mo knockout punches over the coming months
to the “inevitable” Romney
nomination.
Regardless of what an “acceptably” good game Romney talks
in his quest for Independents and disaffected former Obama
supporters, his message simply is not going to reach millions of important voters who see themselves as making
a life-or-death decision in the primaries this year and November. Romney simply WON’T present himself as a viable alternative to Obama—he doesn’t have the fire in the belly, NOR the rhetorical/factual wherewithal to do so.
On the other hand, Gingrich is so “policy-ready” on the debate floor, that every little tidbit he puts out is grabbed and spun by the MSM to put it in the most negative light as quickly as possible (black schoolkids apprenticing as janitors, etc. etc.)
The fact is, Gingrich’s arguments and positions on just about everything BEGIN at a point most of his opponent’s
arguments NEVER GET TO: that constitutes a practical weakness he will have to straighten out right quick—how to
avoid having every little proposal you make demagogued by
the MSM, the Obama Surrogates, and ALSO your “fellow Republicans”.
NO ONE will win the nomination without Tea party support,
and now that Cain and Bachmann are gone, that leaves fewer and fewer candidates to draw that constituency to them.
Without knowing about these polls, I was forecasting the same results to someone I was having a “discussion” with last night at our annual New Year’s Chamber of Commerce meeting in Bergen COunty , New Jersey.
We all stand behind any candidate other than Romney to do as well as he can: for me, this means Gingrich.


27 posted on 01/06/2012 10:19:42 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Record?

Balanced budget, GOP takover of the Hill for the first time in 50 YEARS, welfare reform... yeah, Newt’s record can’t compare to Santorum

What precisely has RS done for us over the last 20 years in politics, pray tell? I can’t name a thing.


28 posted on 01/06/2012 10:21:35 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican
IMHO it would serve conservatives well to realize they're being manipulated by the Left, MSM, and Romney-ite RINO wing of the party...

That's not a wing of the party, it's the party establishment.

29 posted on 01/06/2012 10:22:59 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Excellent post..great job on research and most of all YOU made my day!!!!!!!!!!! The SC majority leader endorsed Newt. Romney is in SC now trying to buy votes. I do think the southerners are a lot more savvy as to the political tricks and scams by both Romney and the RNP..oh and toss in Fox News.
Wish I could plaster your post all over SC, VA, Georgia and NH!!!!


30 posted on 01/06/2012 10:28:36 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: ichabod1

“Yes, and the reason is he hasn’t had any money. Now he does”

Newt climbed up from nothing with NO money, Bachmann never had much... Cain not when he first rose either

IMHO the problem was Rick Santorum has the personality of a parking meter

Sorry lol


31 posted on 01/06/2012 10:42:59 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: mancini

Agreed. Both Gingrich and Santorum outshine Perry in terms of experience, credentials, and gravitas. Perry far outstrips Romney in all of the above. How can people forget that Romney ran an inept campaign against Kennedy and got landslided, and then was a four and out governor of the root of evil in the modern world. Those are NO credentials. What has he done, run the Olympics? Had a famous dad? Romeny can go screw. He doesn’t belong there.


32 posted on 01/06/2012 11:08:51 AM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Santorum.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Finally, somebody who can see reality.

Santorum is a good man, but will never win a national election.

33 posted on 01/06/2012 11:32:07 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ichabod1

I only have one issue I disagree with.

You think Santroum outsides Perry in terms of experience.
Not sure how an x senator can compare to a long time sitting Govenor and previously the LT Govenor ????

What am I missing here ? ( waiting for my lightbulb moment to flicker on )


34 posted on 01/06/2012 11:33:57 AM PST by simplesimon (" God doesn't call the qualifed,He qualifes the CALLED! "..TomasUSMC...GO PERRY GO NEWT GO SANTORUM)
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To: Reaganite Republican

I like your thesis, but I’m confused about the poll numbers. The ones that I could find through the links for each state listed are mostly a few weeks old going back as far as the beginning of December. Do we have polling data that show that Newt is still maintaining that kind of strength in the last few days?


35 posted on 01/06/2012 12:37:38 PM PST by JewishRighter (ui)
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To: simplesimon

You raise a very good point, and one i have a lot of sympathy for, and maybe even agree with. Senators historically have made lousy presidents. It could be argued that the reason “that man” has been such a crappy occupant is more because he was a senator and less because he’s a left wing, idealogic, america-hating communist. Senators are by nature gutless yellowbellies. They should be shunned after service. They rarely have to take a stand and when they do, it’s only when they are forced to the wall. They resemble weasels, crawfish.

The only problem is that Gov. Perry has some of those same tendencies himself. And I feel in my gut that he will raise taxes. I don’t give a fig about him tripping over his tongue in the debate.

I think Santorum has more spine, though I know there are some here who would disagree with me. Moreover, as a senator he has more experience with defense and international relations.

Actually, I think either would make fine managers of the country and that goes a long, long way with me these days. The reason I am tilting away from Perry is because he has that bad bad habit of campaigning conservative and governing liberal. I don’t quite trust him.


36 posted on 01/06/2012 12:56:27 PM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Santorum.)
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To: musicman

marking to look at later...looks like a good video


37 posted on 01/06/2012 12:56:49 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: ichabod1

The only problem is that Gov. Perry has some of those same tendencies himself. And I feel in my gut that he will raise taxes. I don’t give a fig about him tripping over his tongue in the debate.
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The tripping over his tongue doesnt bother me in the least. We’re human.
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I think Santorum has more spine, though I know there are some here who would disagree with me. Moreover, as a senator he has more experience with defense and international relations.

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Wouldn’t their experience with defence then be about the same since Perry is CIC of the Texas National Guard and the Rangers ? ( I’m having a stuttering brain fart and I’ve got one or both orgz wrong ACK ! )
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Actually, I think either would make fine managers of the country and that goes a long, long way with me these days.
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Totally agreed with.
It’s certainly a “job” with many frustrations and too much stress.
I’d trust either one of them. ( Newt too )


38 posted on 01/06/2012 3:34:06 PM PST by simplesimon (" God doesn't call the qualifed,He qualifes the CALLED! "..TomasUSMC...GO PERRY GO NEWT GO SANTORUM)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Isn’t there some kind of truism that the person who wins Iowa never wins the nomination?

Cindie


39 posted on 01/06/2012 4:50:18 PM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: SatinDoll
He knows where the bodies are buried.

He knows where the skeletons are hidden.

He knows about the secret ways and byways by which influence peddling moves in Washington.

We need to know whether his FBI file was with the batch found in Hillary's quarters. If so, none of his knowledge matters...

40 posted on 01/06/2012 4:56:15 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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