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Can Obama's Relection be a Good Thing for Conservatives?
Red County ^ | 3/30/12 | Ben Barrack

Posted on 03/30/2012 2:25:10 PM PDT by Ben Barrack

Conservatives are disheartened. It's becoming increasingly apparent that Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee in the fight to defeat Barack Obama. If four years of Jimmy Carter so awakened Republican voters that they nominated Ronald Reagan, why has nearly four years of Jimmy Carter on steroids so sedated Republican voters that they've decided to nominate the equivalent of Gerald Ford as the best option for defeating him?

In large part, the establishment insists on it and, like Obama, seems disinterested in the will of the people. This establishment is so invested in Romney that it is overlooking the potential consequences of one very real possibility.

What if he loses? The establishment's credibility will have been torpedoed. Yes, at great expense, but torpedoed nonetheless.

If you thought the Tea Party was angry in 2009, just wait until 2013 if Barack Obama is sworn in for a second term after defeating Mitt Romney. For starters, conservative voters will be outraged at any Republican Senator, Congressman or Governor who helped shove Romney down their throats. Accountability could take on an entirely new meaning and those elected leaders will have their feet held to the fire like never before. Romney's name will be added to the long list of liberal Republicans who couldn't seal the deal. Any attempt by establishment elitists to point to Goldwater as evidence that conservatism can't win will be met with sardonic laughter that hopefully drives a stake through the heart of the argument.

Consider the example Fast and Furious, an operation that is not only being revealed as something akin to Watergate with murder but could very likely implicate the heads of nearly every major department and agency in the Obama Administration, to include DHS, DOJ, the FBI, and the State Department. There have been multiple reports that House Speaker John Boehner has asked Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) to back off of his investigation, ostensibly because of how high it could go.

While appearing on the Fox News Channel, Judson Phillips, the founder of Tea Party Nation was visibly frustrated at the lack of interest on the part of Republican Party leadership relative to being more aggressive with Attorney General Eric Holder. Judson went on to say the following:

“What my friends in Washington tell me is that Boehner says what he learned from the 1995 government shutdown is ‘you never pick a fight with the president.’”

If Romney loses to Obama, Boehner will be forced to pick that fight.

If Judson is correct, it points to Boehner being more interested in running out the clock – with the November election representing the final whistle – than in a dogged pursuit of justice, regardless of where it leads. Avoiding a showdown could conceivably allow Attorney General Eric Holder, FBI Director Robert Mueller, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to skate – depending on their respective levels of involvement – instead of facing impeachment and removal from office for high crimes and misdemeanors.

Boehner has most certainly come across as disinterested in commenting on the scandal publicly and won't deviate from a short statement of support for what Issa's committee is doing. It would seem that Issa is wrestling with quite the Executive Branch behemoth and could use a greater show of public support from the House Speaker.

If there are any stories the establishment wants to see go away after the election, the ones about Obama's Birth Certificate, Social Security number, and Selective Service registration are at the top of the list. Such concerns are irrelevant, they say. Besides, the election is less than one year away and it's pointless to entertain the notion. The implication is that Joe Arpaio's investigation, even if it yields anything of substance, will be anti-climactic because Obama will be out of office and everyone will have moved on.

That is, unless he wins. Then what? If you thought the Birthers were loud before, just wait and see what happens if Obama is reelected.

Not only will the Birthers – who generally don't come across as avid Romney supporters – have four more years to continue their incessant drumbeat of demands for answers to their eligibility questions but the establishment that has made every attempt to ignore them will have been roundly defeated and, consequently, forced into a position of having to listen. With the wind knocked out of the establishment, its members will also be barraged with demands that they reconcile with their base (not the other way around) for supporting yet another in a long line of incredibly pathetic candidates. As much as the elites won't want to admit it, the Republican Party agenda could be set by conservative voters who were ignored by an establishment that still doesn't get it.

Tolerance will be in very short supply.

The sad prospect of Romney as the nominee is seemingly trumped only by the prospect that Obama could get a second term, which is made more likely, some believe, if Romney is nominated. Establishment, general election Republican losers like John McCain and Bob Dole have endorsed Romney, as have Governors Chris Christie and Nikki Haley. Tea Party favorites Marco Rubio and Christine O'Donnell have as well. A dangerous type of groupthink seems to have set in among Republican politicians that has generated a bizzare coalescence around a liberal candidate when the time is ripe for a conservative one.

For crying out loud, serial liar Howard Dean said the Democrats fear a face-off with Romney most over all the Republican candidates. Those of us who understand liberal tactics know that Dean means the exact opposite; that's why he said it. It'd be like a head coach proclaiming that his team fears facing his opponent's back up quarterback in an attempt to fool the other coach into starting him. Republican elites aren't as smart, apparently. They've been told by Howard Dean that their third string quaterback gives them their best chance and, by gum, they believe it.

Something else almost certain to happen after Romney's nomination; his religion will be thoroughly vetted by the liberal media. Most Americans know little to nothing about Mormonism but that is all going to change with Romney's nomination. According to a Gallup poll, 22% of Americans are hesitant about voting for a Mormon. Some argue that Mormonism is antithetical to Chrisitianity; some argue that it isn't; still others don't much care. One thing is certain. Everyone will know more about it with Romney as the Republican nominee for president. That, too, should be a good thing no matter what side you're on.

Don't lose heart, conservatives. Instead, check out Romans 8:28, which says:

And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

In 2013, the Republican elites could find themselves at the intersection of 'be careful what you wish for' and 'sleeping in the bed you made.'

I hope they're preparing for both.

Ben Barrack is a talk show host on KTEM 1400 in Texas benbarrack.com


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: barackobama; blogwhore; election; mittromney; republicanparty
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To: NFHale; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; Pan_Yans Wife
RE:”Neither party has the interests of the country at heart.

You sound like Gilbo now. He refuses to join the TEAM:)

How about that post last night saying that the US now borrows 60% of it's deficit from the Federal Reserve? And notice the crickets from Republicans on that. You know why?

Votes=economy=immediate satisfaction=deficit spending=get mad later.

Ed Schultz had a NOW woman on last night who was saying that Obama will win the election because women care more about getting free birth control than they do about the National Debt or the deficit. The Dem women in the live audience agreed and snickered at a quote from Romney for stating otherwise.

Sort of amazing to watch a country implode by popular demand.

161 posted on 04/03/2012 9:25:18 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: NFHale

I sure hope these FReepers can shoot straight : )


162 posted on 04/03/2012 9:29:48 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; Pan_Yans Wife

“...You sound like Gilbo now. He refuses to join the TEAM:)...”

Great minds think alike, brother...

If the GOP had our interests at heart, they would have stood up, as one, at his last State of the Union, and turned their backs on him, publicly, and HELD that posture as long as he was at the podium.

After three years of listening to this maniac, three years of having their agenda rammed down our throats and up our arses, after three years of watching them gloat as they told our side to sit down, shut up, and suck on it, you’d think that anyone with a SHRED of testosterone and testicular fortitude would have stood up, flipped this dictator wannabe the middle finger, and simply turned his back on him as long as his mouth was moving.

That no one did is telling to me. They’re either cowards, complicit, or a bit of both. They either don’t know how to fight back, or worse - don’t WANT to fight back - and are completely willing to give us over to the ideology we have trained our military to destroy for over 85 years.

We beat our heads against the rhetorical wall out here, wondering why “our” side won’t fight back - ESPECIALLY when this douche gives SO much ammunition to use - and the only conclusion I can see anymore is as Judge Napolitano said...they’re on the same side ultimately - THEM versus the rest of us.

I don’t see any other possibility anymore.


163 posted on 04/03/2012 9:40:08 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“...I sure hope these FReepers can shoot straight : )...”

Shoot straight, hell...at this point, I’m just hoping SOMEBODY shows up at all...

Sometimes, I sorta feel like that lone Chinaman standing in front of the tanks in Tianeman Square...


164 posted on 04/03/2012 9:43:58 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

” After three years of listening to this maniac, three years of having their agenda rammed down our throats and up our arses, after three years of watching them gloat as they told our side to sit down, shut up, and suck on it, you’d think that anyone with a SHRED of testosterone and testicular fortitude would have stood up, flipped this dictator wannabe the middle finger, and simply turned his back on him as long as his mouth was moving.

That no one did is telling to me. They’re either cowards, complicit, or a bit of both. They either don’t know how to fight back, or worse - don’t WANT to fight back - and are completely willing to give us over to the ideology we have trained our military to destroy for over 85 years.

We beat our heads against the rhetorical wall out here, wondering why “our” side won’t fight back - ESPECIALLY when this douche gives SO much ammunition to use - and the only conclusion I can see anymore is as Judge Napolitano said...they’re on the same side ultimately - THEM versus the rest of us.”

They have become The Ruling Class in D.C. If we don’t clean house, and set term limits, so these a$$holes cannot get entrenched in Washington, we will lose our country anyway.


165 posted on 04/03/2012 9:51:06 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: NFHale

” Sometimes, I sorta feel like that lone Chinaman standing in front of the tanks in Tianeman Square...”

What a perfect comparison.


166 posted on 04/03/2012 9:52:54 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: NFHale; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; Pan_Yans Wife

Peter Schiff’s rules:

Rule 1 : Republicans in the minority act like Republicans, in the majority they act like Democrats

Rule 2 : Republicans talk like Republicans when running for election, but after they are elected they follow rule 1.

Rule 3 : we are screwed!


167 posted on 04/03/2012 9:58:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: sickoflibs; NFHale; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; Pan_Yans Wife

No term limits....no country.

Boehner & McConnell aren’t even alive, from what I see.


168 posted on 04/03/2012 10:03:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
You sound like Gilbo now. He refuses to join the TEAM:)...

been there done that since daddy bush...going FRee agent and lettin the [bull] chips fall where they may...

I’m sorry...was that mean? Was that Harsh and Insensitive?...

pattacake with reach around types has been such for far too long...they need US, not vicey versey...

Sort of amazing to watch a country implode by popular demand...

those who refuse to study history are doomed...the nature of man has NOT changed since the Beginning...re-inventing the wheel is a mental masturbation that has plagued man every generation, and those who seek power and control simply revert to the tried and true to obtain the fruits of others, with the inevitable collapse EVERY TIME...

US now borrows 60% of it's deficit from the Federal Reserve?...

so long as ive got checks, i aint broke...*IF* i own the bank/press...

this is probably the greatest indicator of the impending financial collapse on the horizon...the crash and then a swift hyperinflation are almost guarenteed when 'money' appears from thin air at that percentage...itll come hard and faster than most will be able to comprehend...

the only conclusion I can see anymore is as Judge Napolitano said...they’re on the same side ultimately - THEM versus the rest of us.

right wing-left wing...both attatched to the tyranny-o-saurus bird of prey...too bad the founders were forgotten when they established a working bird of Pray...

169 posted on 04/03/2012 11:16:56 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Ben Barrack
Romney sucks. I didn't vote for him in the primary. I voted for Santorum solely to defeat Romney. However, here's the problem with an Obama re-election.
1. Eric Holder
2. Kathleen Sebelius
3. Cass Sunstein
4. Czars
5. EPA
6. Anthony Kennedy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia are all in their mid 70's or older.
170 posted on 04/03/2012 11:21:56 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Ben Barrack
We need one and it involves electing as many conservatives in local, city, state, and federal elections as possible while demanding that they hold Obama accountable - up to and including impeachment / removal from office.

I agree with that, but: Unless you can give me 60 conservative R votes in the Senate, I can't sit out the top of the ticket and risk a Kennedy or Scalia retirement, not to mention Holder.

171 posted on 04/03/2012 12:30:01 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Ben Barrack

How could re-election of this maniac, in any form or fashion could be good for anyone? He is a muslim, acting through selfish socialism pandering to this country’s low lifes to keep his rule 4 more years to complete its destruction.

There is no second chance in this. We either defeat him here and now or our country perishs as we know it. There is not one goddam upside to his being re-elected -—— NONE!...

Get with the progam dreamer. Dreaming that there are future counters to 4 more years of this tyrant killer is infantile.


172 posted on 04/03/2012 12:34:28 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: AuH2ORepublican
likes of Judge Reinhold and Mario Cuomo to SCOTUS.

Billy from Beverly Hills Cop? I think you mean Stephen Reinhardt.

I do agree, although it's going to really pain me this November barring a shocker.

173 posted on 04/03/2012 12:57:20 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: LS
I'll actually be estatic at a Harding president. As bad as his rep is and as good as Coolidge's rep is, most of the benefits of Coolidge was helped by Harding's work. He's the epidomy of not a good guy but a good president. These days, I'll take that in a minute.

If Romney's a Harding, I'll take that. I expect him to be a Clinton myself.

174 posted on 04/03/2012 1:09:56 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Darren McCarty

“likes of Judge Reinhold and Mario Cuomo to SCOTUS.

Billy from Beverly Hills Cop? I think you mean Stephen Reinhardt.”


Do’h! Of course, I meant Reinhardt, that old Communist (who wasn’t so old back when Carter named him to the Ninth Circus).

Actually, had Carter won reelection and nominated Judge Reinhold to SCOTUS back in 1982, Reinhold surely would have turned him down so that he could continue to film “Fast Times” with Phoebe Cates . . . .


175 posted on 04/03/2012 1:16:44 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Darren McCarty

Yes, Harding got the government entirely out of the railroads, sold off government shipping, and so on. Did a great job.


176 posted on 04/03/2012 1:31:32 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Gilbo_3; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”You sound like Gilbo now. He refuses to join the TEAM:)...
been there done that since daddy bush...going FRee agent and lettin the [bull] chips fall where they may...

So you not buying that 'We have to vote for Stalin to beat Hitler' analogy that the other freeper threw at me?

File that with the bucket of bad analogies,
I read lots of history and I hate Stalin, and Mao, and Po Pot. Just because they didnt have 1000+ movies about them like Hitler did doesnt convince me to vote for them.

177 posted on 04/03/2012 1:41:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: Darren McCarty; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; NFHale; Travis McGee; Gilbo_3
6. Anthony Kennedy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia are all in their mid 70's or older.

Kennedy, Scalia, Ginsbug, and Breyer (who will be 74 in August) could all retire after 2016, and Romney, if elected in 2012, might lose in 2016. Or some of them might retire or die before 2017. Romney might appoint "moderates" worse than Kennedy (who voted with the 4 Demons to rule that CO2 is a "pollutant" in 2007). Or he might appoint conservatives, who knows. Expect another Bork episode if any conservative is nominated to replace Ginsburg or Breyer. Even if the GOP could pick up enough senate seats to gain control of the senate judiciary committee, I would guess Dems would filibuster in that case.

One thing that bothers me is the number of pro-global-warming advisors Romney has. Other flip flops on immigration, abortion....


178 posted on 04/03/2012 2:00:26 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: All

You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can’t be both. Pick one.

I can think of at least one thing that is infinitely worse than the prospect of Obama’s reelection:

The abandonment of all principle by “conservatives.”

We can survive wicked men in office. We’ve done it before...But we can’t survive an electorate that is utterly without principle. Especially that part of the electorate that should be the moral backbone of the body politic.


179 posted on 04/03/2012 2:07:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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