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MarkAmerica ^ | 5/20/2012 | Mark America

Posted on 05/20/2012 8:22:18 PM PDT by katiedidit1

You see, there are those who have already begun to argue that Romney, if he loses, will do so because of a lack of support. The idea is to shift blame to conservatives, Tea Party folk, or anybody else who will not step up and vocally support or at least vote for Romney. I reject that thesis as a scandalous lie. Don’t tell me Romney wants to win but doesn’t want to talk about Reverend Jeremiah Wright, or Bill Ayers, or the whole rogues’ gallery of philosophical villainy that accompanies Barack Obama. Then, after rejecting these obvious problems with Barack Obama, I’m to blame if Mitt Romney loses?

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1 posted on 05/20/2012 8:22:28 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: katiedidit1

What is “MarkAmerica”?


2 posted on 05/20/2012 8:26:07 PM PDT by TonyInOhio ( It is later than you think)
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To: katiedidit1

If he can’t attract the voters then its his own fault and nobody else shoulders any blame. He is a bad candidate to begin with.


3 posted on 05/20/2012 8:26:33 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: katiedidit1; Gator113; Marcella; onyx; caww; RitaOK; Jim Robinson; b9

“If Mitt Romney loses, it will be because he failed. He failed to be a conservative. He failed to insist on talking about Barack Obama’s radical associations. He failed to rally the base of the Republican party. He failed to motivate conservatives. He failed. If you want to blame me for a Romney loss, have at it, but I won’t accept blame. Here we have a candidate who saw no problem in hammering his Republican opponents in dishonest ways, but who now shrinks from talking about the truth of Barack Obama, and some wish to blame me?

If you will not call a monster by name in public, why would you be surprised if others will not view him in that light? After all, we elect Presidents because we expect them to tell us the truth even when it’s unpleasant. If we know the truth about Obama, but Romney won’t say it, what could be the justification? At what point does somebody step up and ask Romney: “Why won’t you talk about Obama’s radical associations?” Why, after saying he cannot tell the superPACs that support him what to do, when it came to Newt Gingrich, is he now going out of his way to dissociate himself from any discussion of Obama on this subject by those superPACs? What he’s done is to “call off the dogs” on this, something he refused to do when it came to Gingrich just a few months ago, laughing it off as the nature of politics.”


4 posted on 05/20/2012 8:27:04 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

That’t right. It’s all your fault and we haven’t even gotten through May yet!


5 posted on 05/20/2012 8:27:25 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: TonyInOhio

He is a conservative blogger..check out his site.
http://markamerica.com/2012/05/19/our-crisis/
I don’t like counterfeit conservatives, and in fact, it’s fair to say that in many respects, I dislike them even more than Obama, and it’s because they do more to undermine our nation than Obama ever will. How many times have we been undermined by Republicans who rush to surrender to the statists?


6 posted on 05/20/2012 8:29:24 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Dogbert41

Gee..I am powerful:)


7 posted on 05/20/2012 8:30:39 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: TonyInOhio
Romney, if he loses, will do so because of a lack of support.

I dont know but I bet he has strong ties with Captain Obvious.

8 posted on 05/20/2012 8:34:14 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: katiedidit1

“Why, after saying he cannot tell the superPACs that support him what to do, when it came to Newt Gingrich, is he now going out of his way to dissociate himself from any discussion of Obama on this subject by those superPACs? What he’s done is to “call off the dogs” on this, something he refused to do when it came to Gingrich just a few months ago, laughing it off as the nature of politics.”

You know, that’s really a tremendous point.


9 posted on 05/20/2012 8:37:36 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: katiedidit1

They can blame me right alongside of you.


10 posted on 05/20/2012 8:42:35 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Gator113

““THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Britain, with an army to enforce her tyranny, has declared that she has a right (not only to TAX) but “to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER” and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God.”
Romney ran a scorched earth campaign against Newt...where is his “fight” when it comes to Obama?


11 posted on 05/20/2012 8:47:15 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1
Don’t tell me Romney wants to win but doesn’t want to talk about Reverend Jeremiah Wright, or Bill Ayers, or the whole rogues’ gallery of philosophical villainy that accompanies Barack Obama...hmmm - maybe that's why Romney has gone from a 50 to 42 percent lead over Obama in last weekend's Rasmussen poll of likely voters to today's 46 to 44 deficit - as good an explanation as any......
12 posted on 05/20/2012 8:50:34 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: katiedidit1

I will not vote for Romney, and that’s Romney’s fault.
Period.


13 posted on 05/20/2012 8:51:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Romney caved to the liberals to win Mass..what is different now? he only runs the scorched earth campaigns against conservatives. But of course he can’t run on healthcare, liberal judges or his record as gov in Mass.
Romney is NO conservative.


14 posted on 05/20/2012 8:56:47 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1
Here we have Romney who saw no problem in hammering his Republican opponents in dishonest ways, but who now shrinks from talking about the truth of Barack Obama.

Sounds like a repeat of McCain does it not?..... I can name that tune in one note!

I am not at all surprised Katie....we knew this was coming ....Both sides, which are truly the same side, are feeding the public a line of crap....and they're eating it up.... The public is convinced this is an election between the lesser of two evils.... and the GOP, the supporters, and the reluctant supporters, are pushing the ABO hard and hot. The Piped Pipers have their following now.

Of course I will not vote nor consent to Romney's nor Obama's platform...and comfortable doing so. The fight was in the Primary...we lost....but more than a conservative candidate ....we signed and sealed our nations demise by not supporting those remaining who are conservatives....too late now.

But I've sure enjoyed telling the GOP and NRC people why I'm not voing for Romney.....it is what it is and the GOP and the Romney supporters bare the blame for this trumped up election.

15 posted on 05/20/2012 9:09:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: Dogbert41

no it isn’t

every candidate goes to the center after winning the primary


16 posted on 05/20/2012 9:13:29 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: caww

caww, Amen! had a call from the Romney campaign and told them exactly what I thought and why I would have a problem with him being our nominee. The caller was extremely ignorant and could not defend Romney on a single issue. Now that is scary! the blind and uninformed voters are killing us. We know Romney’s record as govt doesn’t matter.


17 posted on 05/20/2012 9:23:12 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

I sure couldn’t have said it better.


18 posted on 05/20/2012 9:28:13 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: caww
...the GOP and the Romney supporters bare [sic] the blame for this trumped up election.

I supported Newt in the primaries but will vote for Romney on the basis of anyone but Obama. Does that make me bear the blame now?

19 posted on 05/20/2012 9:33:20 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: mamelukesabre
The MSM wants this election to be about racism and how white people don't like Obama because he's black. They are just waiting to pounce.

People heard about Jeremiah Wright in 2008. Talking about him again in 2012 is not going to change many votes, but it will give the mainstream media a chance to cry "racist!"

If they can prove the story about the $150,000 bribe being offered in 2008 by the Obama camp to Wright, that might be worth publicizing, but otherwise focus on things Obama has done since being elected, including the people he has appointed (Van Jones, Eric Holder, Katherine Sebelius, etc.).

Obama went to Wright's church because he had to pretend to be a Christian to be accepted as a community organizer. He already had his anti-American and anti-white attitudes...he didn't learn them from Wright.

Trying to make Wright a big issue in 2012 doesn't sound like a sound strategy.

20 posted on 05/20/2012 9:40:53 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: GeronL

Well, it’s his fault, but also the fault of the idiots that voted for him in the primaries.


21 posted on 05/20/2012 9:45:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Verginius Rufus

yeah whatever. I have no idea why you veered off to wright.


22 posted on 05/20/2012 9:47:25 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: katiedidit1

Romney was never after the conservative voters, but was out to crush conservative candidates, all who had more love for country than money to run on. He made deals on issues and strategy with the GOP leaders, funded their campaigns, even some newbies, far in advance of even announcing his own run, buying their silence then, and their support now, all in place in time to repel and reject any other candidates.

He is now playing the issues for the Independents only, and believes any time spent on character issues and the communist associations let’s Obama off the hook on the economy, which is supposedly Romney’s strong suit and Obama’s weakest, so that is the only pony Romney wants to ride, until he falls behind and is forced then to go negative.

Republicans don’t want to lead. They want to oppose and get richly compensated for it. Newt would have made them go to work like he always did and they hated him for it, and he would have kicked Obama to the curb, which horrified the GOP (Grand Old Posers) who couldn’t deal with the fall out and the restructuring.

Myth is PERFECT for them, as they want to move the party to the Left, obviously. Santorum never earned the political gravitas to pull it off, never had run squat, but for his mouth, like Biden II, so the powers showed him the back of their hand too. (And after all those years of ingratiating himself!)


23 posted on 05/20/2012 10:12:34 PM PDT by RitaOK (I WILL vote against Romney! Few are unafraid, but I thank God for the few. We are the resistance.)
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To: katiedidit1

I am a conservative an don’t give two dead flies about
Romney calling out BO regarding Ayers & Wright.
Didn’t work last time & won’t this time. Still think
Kerry was a fool for rehashing a sitting POTUS mil-
tary record in 04. Would love for the Romney cam-
paign to challenge the MSM when needed and ap-
propriate. I’d like to see Romney get under BO’s
skin in the debates. BO will not survive the light
of truth shining down on his phony presidency
and lightweight Mitt has to get past himself to
make that happen.


24 posted on 05/20/2012 10:15:34 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: luvbach1; katiedidit1
I supported Newt in the primaries but will vote for Romney on the basis of anyone but Obama. Does that make me bear the blame now?

Samuel Adams stated ...."Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering 'his vote' that he is executing one of the most 'solemn trusts' in human society for which he is 'accountable to God and his country'.

Anyone who votes for Romeny or Obama bears the 'blame' for who they are supporting.... Conservatives do attempt to dodge the issue by their Romney support, but a candidate whose own supporters have to start every sentence with,.. “Yeah, I hate him too, but...”... is doomed..... like it or not "now"....all doors lead to the basement of the same outhouse.

It is wise to consider when we vote for an individual to sit in the official seat as President, we are voting not just for a person, but for that person’s platform and giving 'our consent' to his governance....Ballots Do Not contain room for voters to indicate why thy have chosen a particular candidate. ..it therefore will always be "for" the candidate and the platform which he stands for.

How you determine your vote is your determination alone and none other.....For muself as a Conservative ,I will not adhere my signature nor give my consent to Socialist/Marxist platforms... Romney and Obama will take us further down those tracks....I may unwillingly have to ride that cat but I sure don't have to sign up for it...and I won't.

But to answer your question... do you bear the blame for who you vote for? ....One would ask then what are you voting "for" and what does 'your vote' mean to you? might be a better question.

25 posted on 05/20/2012 11:05:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: katiedidit1

I just signed up for his blog...and I might add the only blog I’ve ever signed up for. Thanks for the link...good stuff there.


26 posted on 05/20/2012 11:16:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: Dogbert41
Why, after saying he cannot tell the superPACs that support him what to do, when it came to Newt Gingrich, is he now going out of his way to dissociate himself from any discussion of Obama on this subject by those superPACs? What he’s done is to “call off the dogs” on this, something he refused to do when it came to Gingrich just a few months ago, laughing it off as the nature of politics.”

..."You know, that’s really a tremendous point"....

You bet it is....revealing just what we have known...Romney is a part of this rotten to the core scam of an election and both parties are playing the public bigtime! The voter be aware cannot be said strong enough.

I will not be at all surprised that Romney hands the debates to Obama as well.

27 posted on 05/20/2012 11:23:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: katiedidit1
Romney ran a scorched earth campaign against Newt...where is his “fight” when it comes to Obama?

He ran it against 'all' the conservative candidates....his money bought and paid to take them all down, with th exception of Santorum....which was another distraction put out there for conservatives to run with....and which Romney was already favorable to since we all knew he'd never make it past Pa. and offered him the cash cow to bow out...because he could be bought.

Nah...Romney's not going to clobber away at Obama...he isn't made of "fight" stuff.....he'll do it all behind the scenes and come out smelling like a rose if he does it at all....but he'll loose the election anyway....the ABO vote is not going to be enough to overcome the left vote, the black vote, and if he grants some form of ammnesty for the Hispanic vote, which I suspect he'll do, Obama will wrap that up too.....not to mention the Union votes and all those on some form or another of welfare. Need I mention all the fraud votes...especially since the final tally will be done in Spain!

Romney doesn't have a chance.....it's just not going to happen for the man.....unless of course Obama decides he's tired of being President. I honestly don't think he has it in him, nor his wife to go another 4 years. But time will tell.

28 posted on 05/20/2012 11:35:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: katiedidit1; Gator113

God wouldn’t vote for Romney so I won’t, either.


29 posted on 05/20/2012 11:39:10 PM PDT by Marcella (Romney: for abortion, homosexuality, gay adoption of children - No to Romney)
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To: katiedidit1
I had a call from the Romney campaign and told them exactly what I thought and why I would have a problem with him being our nominee.

I've gotten three now...One from the NRC Nation, One from the State and one from The Gop...and each one was touting the 'fear mongering' responses just as see on these threads. It was all about ABO and nothing about Romney's record...not one word! Even when I tried to discuss that...nothing.

I hate to say it but Romney and the GOP callers are as incapable of sharing a thought that isn't scripted for them ahead of time any more than Romney can...and none of it is about Romney. They should be embarrassed..and no wonder the Liberals say Conservatives are dunces...they keep showing that to be the case.

But as you say ...none of it matters....to them or to the Party....they simply want the vote...and they will not be getting mine!

30 posted on 05/20/2012 11:51:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: katiedidit1

Seems to me he’s not too wise -
with Barry he identifies.
Why else would Mitt not be a man
and fight Obama all he can?

I’ll bet Mitt’s sons could tell a lot
about the kind of dad they’ve got.
They know full well his bully ways;
his tactics, lies and empty praise.

You see it in his grandkids’ eyes —
their empty looks, like props he buys.
Nothing truly joyous there -
I don’t believe they really care.

Not like Newt’s grandkids at all -
Newt shared with them his vision tall.
What has Mitt to offer kids,
but future debt and homo vids?


31 posted on 05/21/2012 12:02:08 AM PDT by b9
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To: caww
Romney and Obama will take us further down those tracks....I may unwillingly have to ride that cat but I sure don't have to sign up for it...and I won't.

Then you are willing to ride "that cat" much faster "down those tracks" with Obama than with Romney. Obama is much worse than Romney would be. Please understand, that does not mean Romney is a conservative. But he's an American, loyal to this country who believes in our system. OK if you disagree but I'm convinced of that. It does mean that Obama is a destructive, leftist radical whose agenda is inimical to the best interests of the nation and whose removal is imperative to the survival of our country as we've known it. And that, to me, is the essence of conservatism. I've said all I can. You're welcome to disagree.

32 posted on 05/21/2012 12:42:10 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Dogbert41

John McLame 2008 redux:


33 posted on 05/21/2012 2:23:02 AM PDT by DaiHuy (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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To: luvbach1

I will no longer vote for a RINO-E. Not voting for Romney is not a vote for zero. It does not compute.

From now on a candidate earns my vote. It is not given.


34 posted on 05/21/2012 2:51:50 AM PDT by american_ranger
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To: american_ranger

If enough conservatives think like you and withhold their vote for the RINO Romney (the Republican In Name Only), welcome to another 4 years with the DINO Obama(Democrat In Name Only), who is actually the Marxist Obama. I remember when Democrats weren’t all communists and socialists so if Romney is one of those he’ll be an improvement over what we have.


35 posted on 05/21/2012 4:06:34 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
Don’t tell me Romney wants to win but doesn’t want to talk about Reverend Jeremiah Wright, or Bill Ayers, or the whole rogues’ gallery of philosophical villainy that accompanies Barack Obama...hmmm - maybe that's why Romney has gone from a 50 to 42 percent lead over Obama in last weekend's Rasmussen poll of likely voters to today's 46 to 44 deficit - as good an explanation as any......

Shhhhh - too many willing to make the distinction between Romney and the "perfect" candidate who isn't running. They refuse to make the distinction between pure evil and sinfulness...Already got the flame-retardant suit on...

36 posted on 05/21/2012 4:35:18 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: trebb
too many willing to make the distinction between Romney and the "perfect" candidate who isn't running...ah yes, weltschmerz - the sadness caused by comparing reality with what one would like to see ideally - a treacherous marker on which to decide one's political preferences, but no matter - today Romney's down another point to Obama, trailing by 3 - reality will be catching up to us all soon enough.....
37 posted on 05/21/2012 9:39:15 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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