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Anyone including “conservative commenters” not a “birther” is a fool a liar a coward or all three
coachisright.com ^ | May 27,2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 05/27/2012 10:55:09 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

“…mountain of evidence ……Obama was not born in Hawaii is a fake. Did you hear that snarky media people? Nobody over ten believes this phony twerp was born in Hawaii.

Those who publicly say they believe Obama’s birth certificate and biography are real are simpletons who are hoping to have the liberal alligator eat someone else first.

Their cowardice doesn’t make them people bad people, but their snarky swipes at those of us who understand that two and two has always been four and will never change makes them despicable.

The truth is staring all of us in the face and those who pretend to “take the president at his word”, regardless of their political allegiance, are way passed annoying.

They are insulting to our intelligence. Listening to (or reading) “conservative” commentators talk about this issue demands a response.

I am sick of hearing these people talk endlessly about Obama’s questionable nativity, then offering new evidence of Obama’s fraudulent persona then patting themselves on the back with assurances “Well I personally believe the president was born in Hawaii but now let’s talk about what my next guest has uncovered.”

The Pontius Pilate act won’t work anymore.

Nevertheless, not content to hide behind slick double talk allowing them to deny there is anything to the charge against Obama, while using it for ratings, these people so often go a step further.

They talk as if those of us, who actually have enough sense to be able to pour water out of a boot, are toothless drooling halfwits.

If these phony “conservatives” really believe Obama was born in Hawaii they are guilty of a grave disservice to him and all of us.

Repeating what they “KNOW” to be a “terrible lie” is disgusting… almost treasonous……

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: birftards; birthers; hawaii; indonesia; kenya; naturalborncitizen; obamasbirth
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To: jmaroneps37
It does not matter where Ubama was born.

John McCain was born on a foreign military base, but both of his parents were US citizens, making him eligible for the US Presidency.

Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., was indisputably NOT a US citizen, making Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. ineligible for the US Presidency, even if he were born on the steps of the US capitol building.

21 posted on 05/27/2012 1:01:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It does not matter where Ubama was born.

And furthermore, it does not matter what citizenship his parents held, or did not hold.

The only thing that matters at this point is:
"Who - in a position of adequate authority - will do anything about it, regardless of the evidence for *or* against Obama's citizenship?"

To date, no local, state or federal authority has done anything more than marginally appear to take the issue seriously just long enough to claim they didn't flat out ignore the issue. Then, they've dismissed it at face value with no substantive reasoning or supportive evidence, other than an opinion. For just one example, Judge Malihi's review.

So, bring all the evidence you like. I doubt you could find anyone in a position to do anything about it that would accept Obama's confession in person. They would find some procedural reason not to give him an audience, or something.

The issue is dead. For all the *wrong* reasons.
22 posted on 05/27/2012 2:19:05 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Two posts above:

Post One: “The whole “natural born means two citizen parents” thing is probably also a big distraction because it is clear that that was not the definition of natural born under English common law.”

Post Two: “..Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., was indisputably NOT a US citizen, making Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. ineligible for the US Presidency, even if he were born on the steps of the US capitol building.”

Both posters take a position on the NBC question, and the issue seems to be “clear” to both, yet both positions cannot be true. On each and every thread about this matter over the past couple of years, you will likely find both positions taken. Seems that nothing said or written will change the mind of folks taking one position or the other.

Anyone who says this issue is “settled” is simply not being honest with himself/herself. It is not settled...and won’t be in the near future, imo.

Expecting all or even most conservative leaders, bloggers and pundits to be of like mind on this NBC matter is simply wishful thinking and is not rooted in the world of reality.

I wish it were not so, but there I go again, engaging in wishful thinking.


23 posted on 05/27/2012 2:56:08 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: Kaslin
Juan Mc Lame was born on Panamanian soil, in a Panamanian hospital.

Myths daddy was born in Mexico.

Coincidence? What are the odds. The GOP, against an ineligible candidate runs two ineligible candidates?

Can you smell the fix yet?

24 posted on 05/27/2012 2:59:44 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Let_It_Be_So

It is settled in my mind, just as it is settled in many minds here. What you want is for it to be consensus, a completely different notion. Consensus however, is not truth. I know what the truth is, whether or not others will work as I have done to obtain that truth is not my concern, and out of my control.


25 posted on 05/27/2012 3:05:46 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Why do we have to go so far out on the fringes to find candidates for both parties? Is there something wrong with those of us who have been in the country for many generations?

Are not enough of us willing to step up and run? Do having parents who had to fight to get hear instill something* in their children that makes them want to lead this nation?

* That could be good in the case of conservative anti-communist children, or horribly bad in the case of a Marxist loving family.

26 posted on 05/27/2012 3:41:34 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: jmaroneps37

Was it Dale Carnegie who said that you’ll never persuade anyone by telling him he’s wrong?!


27 posted on 05/27/2012 3:45:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Juan Mc Lame was born on Panamanian soil, in a Panamanian hospital.

John Sidney McCain III was born on August 29, 1936, at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, the second of three children born to naval officer John S. McCain Jr. and his wife, Roberta. At the time of his birth, the McCain family was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone, under American control.
Translation: He was born practically on US Soil

Myths daddy was born in Mexico.

And so what. George Romney was born to American parents who lived during his birth in Mormon colonies in Mexico. George Romney did not become a Mexican citizen, just because he was born there. Unlike the US Mexico does not give citizenship to children of foreign nationals, just because they are born there.
Romney himself was born in Detroit, Michigan and both are in the US.

You really are ignorant and embarrassing

28 posted on 05/27/2012 3:54:23 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
">He was born practically on US Soil"
"And so what"
"You really are ignorant and embarrassing"

Shouldn't that be practically ignorant and embarrassing?

Corn flakes a bit of an off yellow this AM?

Apparently you don't notice the coincidence of conflicts in the last and next s Election.

Sew buttons.

29 posted on 05/27/2012 4:05:23 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Let_It_Be_So
Snopes

A few facets of this claim immediately jump out as being far-fetched: first, that a sitting U.S. Senator who has already spent a good deal of time and money securing his party's nomination for the presidency would suddenly be discovered as ineligible due to an obscure provision of U.S. law; and second, that U.S. law would essentially penalize someone who would otherwise qualify for natural-born citizenship status simply because his mother was too young. The fact is, the qualifications listed in the example quoted above are moot because they refer to someone who was born outside the United States. Since Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, they do not apply to him.

I changed my mind.

According to Snopes, if Ubama was not born in the US, he is not eligible.

Even Ubama has said he was not born in the US.

30 posted on 05/27/2012 4:27:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Well, by him being born on a US Naval station in the Panama Canal which at that time in American possession until the peanut farmer from Georgia gave it away, he was definitely born on US Soil

Yeah because of lunatics like you that arrogant lazy, lying pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave got elected and because of your ignorance he might get reelected

31 posted on 05/27/2012 4:47:41 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
>"Yeah because of lunatics like you"

Twice???

What's buggin ya K?

Juan was berfed in a Panamanian Hospital on Panamanian soil. Practically on US soil, but not quite.
Myth's dad was born out of country also.
I made no factual errors.

I didn't tell anyone to not vote ABO.

I just want to remind you to not expect the GOP to be the Calvary and ride to our rescue, cause they aint gonna do it!

32 posted on 05/27/2012 4:54:03 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
John McCain was born on a foreign military base, but both of his parents were US citizens, making him eligible for the US Presidency.

Wasn't he born on a US Naval station in the Panama Canal which at that time was in American possession until the peanut farmer from Georgia gave it away?

33 posted on 05/27/2012 4:54:58 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: HMS Surprise

HMS Surprise, I’m not looking for consensus on the definition of natural born citizen, as envisioned by our framers. (I personally believe NBC requires a candidate to have been born in the USA to two citizen parents, but so what?).

My point was that it is not settled in a way that would enable a Secretary of State in any state in this country to deny eligibility to be placed on a ballot without it being contested. If one would do so, then a lawsuit would ensue and a court of law (eventually the USSC) would settle the matter.

Until then, it is not settled other than in the minds of some of us, and you can see where that has gotten us.


34 posted on 05/27/2012 5:24:43 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: savagesusie
I don't take the present occupant at his word on anything.

With regard to his birth, his upbringing, his travels and his studies it is clear he is hiding facts which, he and his people have decided, don't serve the furtherance of his aims.

I don't know where, when, who, how or why but it is plain as the nose on his face his momma (I suspect with the aid and teaching of KGB handlers), raised a Marxist. It is known that the Soviet era KGB sought to influence American educators, youth, and media during those years with the aim of integrating Marxism into mainstream American society and the power structure, and many examples of success in those endeavors is evident today. It is my belief that the untold details about the present occupant's past would betray something of the that sort.

I'm not saying he was raised with the idea from the beginning that he was to become a Manchurian candidate in the Presidency, but the commies who influenced these people certainly hoped America would elect one of them some day.

McCarthy was right.

35 posted on 05/27/2012 7:08:55 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Actually, it seems pretty clear to quite a few conservatives that both the born in Kenya claims and the other ineligible claims are just conspiracy theories without a lot to back them up. But since you can’t say that here without being personally attacked, I think most freepers who believe that (myself included) have given up.


36 posted on 05/27/2012 7:54:12 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
I was going to see how long it took for someone to confirm that, but then I realized I don't have to wait. It's in the title of the post, the very first words in this thread:

Anyone including “conservative commenters” not a “birther” is a fool a liar a coward or all three

37 posted on 05/27/2012 8:13:02 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: CrouchingTiger620
... name one other US president who did not have 2 us citizens for parents ...

Just Chester Alan Arthur and Barack Obozo (or whatever his name is). That's it; both NOT eligible.

But then, neither is Romney, Santorum, Rubio, or Jindal.

Both Democrats and RINOs find the US Constitution an obstacle to something else they wish to create, and they work together to chip away at it from various angles.

38 posted on 05/27/2012 8:14:19 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: jmaroneps37
Those who publicly say they believe Obama’s birth certificate and biography are real are simpletons ...

The describes ABC's Jake Tapper. From his recent article :

Article

Trump revived the false claims about Obama’s birthplace on Thursday, citing a discredited story about a literary agency that mistakenly listed that Obama was born in Kenya in a recently discovered catalog of clients that included the president.

Discredited story ? The only thing discredited about the story was the agents claim that it was a fact checking error and that she mistakenly typed in Kenya instead of Hawaii ( authors with that same agency have said they provided their own bios and proof read them before it went to print ).

That idiot Tapper should do some fact checking himself. (Though he probably did and knows the truth. )

39 posted on 05/27/2012 9:14:56 PM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: TheCipher

The describes = This describes


40 posted on 05/27/2012 11:23:00 PM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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