Skip to comments.How Long Can Supremes Avoid Eligibility?
Posted on 06/02/2012 8:05:13 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome
The petition was filed on behalf of Keyes and Drake, candidates on the 2008 ballot for president and vice president, and Markham Robinson, an elector for the state of California in 2008.
As candidates during 2008, Keyes and Drake had an interest in having a fair competition for those positions. This interest is akin to the interest of an Olympic competition, where one of the competitors in an athletic competition is found to be using performance enhancing drugs, but is not removed.
The case explains that in such cases, all of the athletes who had trained for the event legitimately are harmed if that disqualified contestant remains, as the contestants would not be competing on a level playing field.
Obama entered this race without having met the eligibility requirements for the office of president of the United States, and, as a result, Keyes and Drake have been injured, because they did not have fair competition for the office.
To the government argument that third-party candidates really arent hurt because they couldnt win anyway, Kreep writes: Does the law, therefore, provide opportunities for, and encourage, majority party presidential candidates to skirt, or ignore, election rules and laws, since, according to respondents, third party presidential challenges would never have standing to challenge?
Such a result would never be acceptable in the jurisprudence of this court, he says.
And, Kreep noted, third-party candidates have included H. Ross Perot and George Wallace, who had an impact on the general election.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Maybe the Supremes are just waiting until they’ve disposed of “Obamacare” and then they’ll get right on this one.
Just like it’s not attempted rape since he never got her panties off.
Duh, doesn’t the Statue of Justice show her blindfolded?
Are dim whit Zer0’s parents both US citizens at his birth? Not as claimed, but could be if Frank Marshall Davis (communist too) is the real father.
This has to be settled because it’s going to come up again when an *anchor baby* wants to run for president.
Thanks for the ping.
I don't dispute your prognostication regarding an attempt at some point by an "anchor baby" to run for the presidency if this is left unresolved. That problem however, is just another facet of why the constitutional crisis that we are already in needs to be resolved: the issue of potential for divided loyalties in the Executive is one of extremely grave concern to the security of the Republic and the rule of law.
The issue of presumed undivided loyalty is far more important than place of birth, though that Minor detail (birth on the nation's soil) is also a NBC criteria that has SCOTUS precedent backing it as part and parcel along with having two citizen parents.
3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
No positive proof of eligibility shown to date means "failed to qualify." Now what?
Yes, but unfortunately some very powerful people have a "collective" thumb on the scales.
Why is this disinformation continually showing up on these threads?
we need to start filing other petitions...
petitions addressing the fact that the courts are not upholding existing law nor the Constitution
additionally, points should be made to require the Constitution be upheld IN ITS ENTIRETY ... or taxation will cease
yes, they want our money. the question is, do they hate the Constitution more then their love for our money...
If he gets reelected the USA is going broke. We will have a credit downgrade. He’ll give us all the finger. We’ll be looking at 20 million dollar vacations every month.
Obama is toast
I can't see how they will strike down the wishes of Obama/Holder. Hitler crushed his judges and bent them to his will, thus legitimizing in law the horrors of National Socialism. Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic, but we're dealing with total corruption here....and that, my friends, can be a wily little rascal.
10:14 to 10:17 "Obama can't recover. There's no way he's gonna recover."
We'll see. After all . . .
Lie down until it passes. Chief Justice Roberts swore him in. Twice.
Doesn’t this become a moot point in 6 months?
My guess is Obama is going to drag this out as long as he can keep stealing OUR money. His strategy will be to next claim that he never posted the BC. Somebody else put it on the website. Along with the letters of request. Obama will deny until he is hung for treason.
I think it’s their fallback plan; once the birth cert and all that is legally proven to be a forgery, then the retreat plan is “oh, his biodad is FMD so he’s a liar but a NBC”.
Of course it is not true any more than the purported parents on the forgery.
My first thought was that he could never get away with that level of fraud. Then I remember I didn't think Clinton could survive the discovery of his DNA on Monica's blue dress either. I also remember thinking at the time that this country had changed for the worse.
Bill Richardson ran for president in 2008. Nobody challenged his eligibility.
Let’s talk “Marco Rubio” who was raised in a Latin culture. In a Latin culture, little male children are refered to as “mi Rey,” (my king). Some males grow up to beleive this.
What a typical Latin brat.
Having been raised in two cultures, I know where he is coming from. “Mi rey” is selfsentered and a no good because of a huge ego to almost match that of the Kenyan bastard.
It’s as though 0mugabe and his peeps are cobras and everyone else in gov is a hypnotize rabbit without any guts or gonads or spines or principles.
“This has to be settled because its going to come up again when an *anchor baby* wants to run for president.”
Yep when they try to run Marco Rubio.
The Chief Justice has the PERFECT excuse to ignore Obama’s eligibility because it has not created opposing rulings in lower courts. So there is, in the Court’s view, nothing to resolve.
ObamaCare was found constitutional by two courts and the mandate unconstitutional by one other. Therefore the SC had to step in.
“I think its their fallback plan; once the birth cert and all that is legally proven to be a forgery, then the retreat plan is oh, his biodad is FMD so hes a liar but a NBC.
Of course it is not true any more than the purported parents on the forgery.”
Have People Forgotten this information??
Obamas BC # may have come from Baby who died one day after her birth 1961
Virginia Sunahara was Born in Hawaii August 4th,1961 & died the next day
Hawaii Dept of Health has no record of Virginias Birth yet she has a marker in Vet. Cemetary in HI
Obamas Grandmother Madelyn Dunham had access to all Death Certificates in HI
New Lawsuit Filed Against Hawaii Dept of Health on Behalf of Duncan Sunahara(Virginia brother)
ObamaRelease YourRecords ^ | Wednesday, January 4, 2012; 5:02 PM
Posted on January 4, 2012 6:33:27 PM PST by Red Steel
Repeat it far and wide. Not new, but the mantra, Obama "failed to qualify" in November, 2008.
Your child has to present his Birth Certificate to play little league baseball. How did Nancy Pelosi and the DNC get Obama on the ballot without having to show his Long Form Birth Certificate to comply with constitutional requirements?
Are the Secretaries of State of each state going to let Obama on the ballot this November without fulfilling the basic qualification as stated in the Constitution? If they do are they not remiss in their duties?
Article II, Section 1: "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."
If he knowingly concealed his birth certificate and took the oath of President, is that not a crime? Does that fall in the purview of "high crimes and misdemeanors?" As you said, No positive proof of eligibility shown to date means "failed to qualify." Now what?
Can anyone really debate Obama "failed to qualify?" And if he did not qualify, as Ed Vieira stated, "If Obama took the Presidential Oath or Affirmation of office, knowing that he is not a natural born Citizen, he knowingly committed the crime of perjury or false swearing (see Article II, Section 1, Clause 7). For, being ineligible for the Office of President, he cannot faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, or even execute it at all, to any degree. Thus, his very act of taking the Oath or Affirmation will be a violation thereof." Whoa. . .
While I'm at it, one of my pet peeves about Obama is not only his total lack of vetting but his 'security clearance' vetting. I'm under the assumption that anyone that runs for President gets the fine tooth microscopic background search by the FBI and CIA, either officially or unofficially. You know the Mossad did it. You tell me they didn't find a ton of data of concern? Yet, he got on the ballot, no problem. Most of us with any military background had to go through a thorough background check by the FBI to get any kind of security clearance. The President does not?
It is obvious to anyone with a pinch of intelligence that the birth certs are all forgeries, but once it’s legally proven or proven in the mind of the general public, etc.
I suppose 0mugabe may try to claim he didn’t know but that obviously won’t work.
And even if team Zero tries to use FMD as the fallback “father” there will be no records for that, either. So they are in a dilemma, poor things.
So, no Long Form Birth Certificate, No Ballot this go around. If no ballot this time, his Presidency is null and void as he failed to qualify last time. Am I missing something here?
“I suppose 0mugabe may try to claim he didnt know but that obviously wont work.
And even if team Zero tries to use FMD as the fallback father there will be no records for that, either. So they are in a dilemma, poor things.”
I have read recently about an Oct surprise... A copy of the real BC will be produced
April 20th,2009 (It did not occur to me at the time to copy URL & authors name)
**[MargaretSmith/Banking Trade Commerce Canadian Printing Press/Obama]**
From the original report about Obamas administration doing a long form Birth Certificate Forgery:
They have already prepared the forgery with special paper and ink.
The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto.
Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.
Expounding on this striking detail, some blanks needed to be filled in.
Locating the Museum in Toronto with a printing press that would do the job
Are you ready for this?
Research was done on nearly every Museum in the Toronto area for a printing press that was operational and could do a forgery.
Everything connecting museums in the area with this type and age of printing press kept pointing back to one Museum in the area.
The name of the Museum this the National Museum of Science and Technology in Toronto.
It has quite a collection of older printing presses. Below is a snippet of the Museums description:
Among numerous exhibits in this educational facility is a collection of printing equipment that includes flatbeds, jobbers, cylinder and rotary presses (http://www.briarpress.org/139)
Identifying a Trustee with links to Canadian banking and investment firms
The next item of business was to find any Trustees (as mentioned by the report) to this Museum that had a connection to a large Canadian investment firm. After looking into this, one person really stood out right away.
The Museum only has three Trustees assigned to it and Margaret Smith came up with a numerous ties to Canadas economic and investment banking syndicate.
It is likely because she serves on the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce for Canada. This definitely qualifies her for being connected to not just one, but several Canadian banking and investment firms.
If it is like in the US, then she probably gets kick-backs from more than one firm, by introducing legislation to the Committee that will benefit the firms substantially. The Trustee of the Museum and member of the Senate Banking Committee appear to be the same Margaret Smith, though not 100% certain.
Canadian Source URL confirming Margaret Smith attending a Senate Banking Committee meeting:http://www.parl.gc.ca/36/1/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/bank-e/27mn-e.htm?Language=E&Parl=36&Ses=1&comm_id=3 (how much you want to bet this gets scrubbed?).
Canadian Source URL confirming Margaret Smith as a Trustee to the Museum (this one less likely to get scrubbed, but probably will)
Both sources were backed up, along with images.
There are still some questions left, like who did Obama meet with and that is also a member of this same Banking Committee on his recent trip to Canada?
Maybe the Supremes are just waiting until theyve disposed of Obamacare and then theyll get right on this one.
They’re waiting until he is defeated in the November elections, then they’ll proceed to say he was not eligible in the first place (after the fact).
I remember that. But even if they were to make a “good” forgery at this point, there’s the “bad” forgeries. And the “good” one would have to match up with the records at the DoH. It’s too late for a “good” forgery.
“I remember that. But even if they were to make a good forgery at this point, theres the bad forgeries. And the good one would have to match up with the records at the DoH. Its too late for a good forgery.”
the Dems will do anything to keep Obama in the WH!!
I am so sick of the “Fraud” in our WH........... I want him to be exposed, removed from the WH & Charged with “Treason” against America!!
It doesn’t help when nobody in Congress wants to touch this,
lest they be called “racist”
This is going to have to be settled because the names “Marco Rubio” and “Bobby Jindal” are floating about as Romney running mates. Neither of them is the child of American citizens, not natural-born citizens. There is also NO legal requirement for a potential candidate to prove that he or she is a natural-born citizen, and no definitive definition under the law of what a natural-born citizen actually IS.
We can no longer assume that traditional American cultural values of honesty and telling the truth exist here as they did for so long; when a man’s word was his bond and a deal could be sealed with a handshake. I’m sure no one ever dreamed that something like Barack Obama could be foisted off on an unsuspecting American public, and allowed to squat in the White House...THE PEOPLE’S HOUSE.
Sure looks to me like they’re going to be able to run out the clock.
You may very well be right, at least in terms of avoiding ouster before the elections this fall. Five months is an eternity in politics, however. Literally anything can happen between now and November.
Arpio's Cold Case Posse could give their next report on their findings, said to be "shocking," any day now.
Additionally, there is a judge in Florida who has allowed discovery to go forward on the two-parent aspect of natural born citizenship.
I thought this was interesting concerning judge Terry Lewis:
Klayman told WND that during a hearing today on discovery issues in the case, Lewis noted that while Klaymans brief cited a U.S. Supreme Courts decision defining natural born citizen as the offspring of two citizens of the nation, the White Houses arguments provided no citations.
We'll see. Or not. Either way, it's been one heck of an intellectual journey researching all of this stuff. Fascinating in a horrific, outrage-inspiring way.
I agree with your scenario. My belief is that SCOTUS knew about his eligibility problems from the get-go but wanted to avoid political disruption. Let the voters remove BO, they will do the cleanup work.
Of course, there is the little matter of two seats on the SCOTUS having to be vacated because they were filled by the usurper's appointees.
Drudge had something up yesterday about Jill Biden saying "Joe will make a great President."
Supposedly for 2016.
Of course, there is the little matter of two seats on the SCOTUS having to be vacated because they were filled by the usurper’s appointees.
As well as the prosecution of forging state and federal documents...I’m wondering if the citizens of the US can file a class action civil lawsuit against the fraud to ensure he does not benefit financially from “selling his story”.
Supposedly for 2016."
Yeah, I saw that. Since "Obama" failed to demonstrably qualify for office by the time of inauguration, under the Twentieth Amendment Section 3, Biden has technically been president since 20 January 2009 from my understanding.
Perhaps that's why the swearing-in ceremony was "flubbed" by Chief Justice Roberts. . .
When I watched the video of Biden's swearing-in, I heard Justice Stevens address him as "Mr. President" (almost with an audible chuckle).
You will recall that Biden did NOT flub his oath.
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