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How Long Can Supremes Avoid Eligibility?
WND ^ | 02 June 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 06/02/2012 8:05:13 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome

The petition was filed on behalf of Keyes and Drake, candidates on the 2008 ballot for president and vice president, and Markham Robinson, an elector for the state of California in 2008.

As candidates during 2008, Keyes and Drake “had an interest in having a fair competition for those positions. This interest is akin to the interest of an Olympic competition, where one of the competitors in an athletic competition is found to be using performance enhancing drugs, but is not removed.”

The case explains that in such cases, “all of the athletes who had trained for the event legitimately are harmed if that disqualified contestant remains, as the contestants would not be competing on a level playing field.”

“Obama entered this race without having met the eligibility requirements for the office of president of the United States, and, as a result, Keyes and Drake have been injured, because they did not have fair competition for the office.”

To the government argument that third-party candidates really aren’t hurt because they couldn’t win anyway, Kreep writes: “Does the law, therefore, provide opportunities for, and encourage, majority party presidential candidates to skirt, or ignore, election rules and laws, since, according to respondents, third party presidential challenges would never have standing to challenge?

“Such a result would never be acceptable in the jurisprudence of this court,” he says.

And, Kreep noted, third-party candidates have included H. Ross Perot and George Wallace, who had an impact on the general election.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; certifigate; elections; naturalborncitizen; obama
Keyes and Drake have no "standing" because they didn't have a realistic chance of winning?
1 posted on 06/02/2012 8:05:26 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome
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To: LucyT; melancholy; Brown Deer; null and void

Ping!

Maybe the Supremes are just waiting until they’ve disposed of “Obamacare” and then they’ll get right on this one.


2 posted on 06/02/2012 8:07:28 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...


Maybe the Supremes are just waiting until they’ve disposed of “Obamacare” and then they’ll get right on this one.
3 posted on 06/02/2012 8:20:06 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Just like it’s not attempted rape since he never got her panties off.


4 posted on 06/02/2012 8:20:58 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Duh, doesn’t the Statue of Justice show her blindfolded?


5 posted on 06/02/2012 8:37:19 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Are dim whit Zer0’s parents both US citizens at his birth? Not as claimed, but could be if Frank Marshall Davis (communist too) is the real father.


6 posted on 06/02/2012 9:35:48 PM PDT by MtnClimber (To the left wrong is right, down is up and backward is "Forward")
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To: Brown Deer

7 posted on 06/02/2012 9:40:26 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Sooner or later the Supremes are going to have to look at this because Obama failed to qualify for the 2008 election . We have no proof who his mother was. No proof who his father was. We do not have a long form birth certificate. He has presented fraudulent forged documents purporting to be short form copies of a long form birth certificate. If he didn't qualify, he was illegally sworn in. His election and Presidency are null and void.
8 posted on 06/02/2012 9:43:14 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Brown Deer; Flotsam_Jetsome

This has to be settled because it’s going to come up again when an *anchor baby* wants to run for president.


9 posted on 06/02/2012 10:20:03 PM PDT by azishot
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To: Brown Deer

Thanks for the ping.


10 posted on 06/02/2012 11:03:34 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: azishot
"This has to be settled because it’s going to come up again when an *anchor baby* wants to run for president."

I don't dispute your prognostication regarding an attempt at some point by an "anchor baby" to run for the presidency if this is left unresolved. That problem however, is just another facet of why the constitutional crisis that we are already in needs to be resolved: the issue of potential for divided loyalties in the Executive is one of extremely grave concern to the security of the Republic and the rule of law.

The issue of presumed undivided loyalty is far more important than place of birth, though that Minor detail (birth on the nation's soil) is also a NBC criteria that has SCOTUS precedent backing it as part and parcel along with having two citizen parents.

11 posted on 06/02/2012 11:33:30 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Art in Idaho
"If he didn't qualify, he was illegally sworn in. His election and Presidency are null and void."

Yes. U.S. Constitution Amendment 20:

3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

No positive proof of eligibility shown to date means "failed to qualify." Now what?

12 posted on 06/02/2012 11:47:40 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Graewoulf
"Duh, doesn’t the Statue of Justice show her blindfolded?"

Yes, but unfortunately some very powerful people have a "collective" thumb on the scales.

13 posted on 06/02/2012 11:57:12 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: MtnClimber
if Frank Marshall Davis (communist too) is the real father.

Why is this disinformation continually showing up on these threads?

14 posted on 06/03/2012 12:00:42 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

we need to start filing other petitions...

petitions addressing the fact that the courts are not upholding existing law nor the Constitution

additionally, points should be made to require the Constitution be upheld IN ITS ENTIRETY ... or taxation will cease

yes, they want our money. the question is, do they hate the Constitution more then their love for our money...


15 posted on 06/03/2012 2:23:55 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

If he gets reelected the USA is going broke. We will have a credit downgrade. He’ll give us all the finger. We’ll be looking at 20 million dollar vacations every month.


16 posted on 06/03/2012 2:58:32 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Corsi latest
Obama is toast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=61ftI9QwDvE


17 posted on 06/03/2012 3:01:21 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
I have an uneasy feeling the Supremes have been "gotten to" by the thugs in the WH. Like they say in the "B-movies"... it's quiet, it's too quiet.

I can't see how they will strike down the wishes of Obama/Holder. Hitler crushed his judges and bent them to his will, thus legitimizing in law the horrors of National Socialism. Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic, but we're dealing with total corruption here....and that, my friends, can be a wily little rascal.

18 posted on 06/03/2012 4:14:29 AM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: patriot08; F15Eagle
"Obama is toast"

10:14 to 10:17 "Obama can't recover. There's no way he's gonna recover."

We'll see. After all . . .

h/t: F15E

19 posted on 06/03/2012 4:19:29 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Scooter100
I have an uneasy feeling

Lie down until it passes. Chief Justice Roberts swore him in. Twice.

20 posted on 06/03/2012 4:22:15 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (God-issued, not govt-issued.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Doesn’t this become a moot point in 6 months?


21 posted on 06/03/2012 6:24:11 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Art in Idaho

My guess is Obama is going to drag this out as long as he can keep stealing OUR money. His strategy will be to next claim that he never posted the BC. Somebody else put it on the website. Along with the letters of request. Obama will deny until he is hung for treason.


22 posted on 06/03/2012 6:33:26 AM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: itsahoot

I think it’s their fallback plan; once the birth cert and all that is legally proven to be a forgery, then the retreat plan is “oh, his biodad is FMD so he’s a liar but a NBC”.

Of course it is not true any more than the purported parents on the forgery.


23 posted on 06/03/2012 6:37:11 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

This whole thing is rigged, top to bottom. It’s quite clear now.


24 posted on 06/03/2012 6:37:40 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: little jeremiah
I think it’s their fallback plan; once the birth cert and all that is legally proven to be a forgery, then the retreat plan is “oh, his biodad is FMD so he’s a liar but a NBC”.

My first thought was that he could never get away with that level of fraud. Then I remember I didn't think Clinton could survive the discovery of his DNA on Monica's blue dress either. I also remember thinking at the time that this country had changed for the worse.

25 posted on 06/03/2012 7:01:23 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: azishot
This has to be settled because it’s going to come up again when an *anchor baby* wants to run for president.

Bill Richardson ran for president in 2008. Nobody challenged his eligibility.

26 posted on 06/03/2012 7:08:16 AM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Let’s talk “Marco Rubio” who was raised in a Latin culture. In a Latin culture, little male children are refered to as “mi Rey,” (my king). Some males grow up to beleive this.

What a typical Latin brat.

Having been raised in two cultures, I know where he is coming from. “Mi rey” is selfsentered and a no good because of a huge ego to almost match that of the Kenyan bastard.


27 posted on 06/03/2012 7:34:23 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Menehune56

It’s as though 0mugabe and his peeps are cobras and everyone else in gov is a hypnotize rabbit without any guts or gonads or spines or principles.


28 posted on 06/03/2012 7:34:48 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: azishot

“This has to be settled because it’s going to come up again when an *anchor baby* wants to run for president.”

Yep when they try to run Marco Rubio.


29 posted on 06/03/2012 8:33:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

The Chief Justice has the PERFECT excuse to ignore Obama’s eligibility because it has not created opposing rulings in lower courts. So there is, in the Court’s view, nothing to resolve.

ObamaCare was found constitutional by two courts and the mandate unconstitutional by one other. Therefore the SC had to step in.


30 posted on 06/03/2012 9:39:52 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: little jeremiah

“I think it’s their fallback plan; once the birth cert and all that is legally proven to be a forgery, then the retreat plan is “oh, his biodad is FMD so he’s a liar but a NBC”.

Of course it is not true any more than the purported parents on the forgery.”

Have People Forgotten this information??

Obama’s BC # may have come from Baby who died one day after her birth 1961

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Virginia Sunahara was Born in Hawaii August 4th,1961 & died the next day

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Hawaii Dept of Health has no record of Virginia’s Birth yet she has a marker in Vet. Cemetary in HI

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Obama’s Grandmother Madelyn Dunham had access to all Death Certificates in HI

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New Lawsuit Filed Against Hawaii Dept of Health on Behalf of Duncan Sunahara(Virginia’ brother)
ObamaRelease YourRecords ^ | Wednesday, January 4, 2012; 5:02 PM
Posted on January 4, 2012 6:33:27 PM PST by Red Steel

Excerpted, more here at http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-lawsuit-filed-against-hawaii.html#comment-form


31 posted on 06/03/2012 11:48:17 AM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Thanks for your post backing up the "failed to qualify" fact with the Constitution.

Repeat it far and wide. Not new, but the mantra, Obama "failed to qualify" in November, 2008.

Your child has to present his Birth Certificate to play little league baseball. How did Nancy Pelosi and the DNC get Obama on the ballot without having to show his Long Form Birth Certificate to comply with constitutional requirements?

Are the Secretaries of State of each state going to let Obama on the ballot this November without fulfilling the basic qualification as stated in the Constitution? If they do are they not remiss in their duties?

Article II, Section 1: "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."

If he knowingly concealed his birth certificate and took the oath of President, is that not a crime? Does that fall in the purview of "high crimes and misdemeanors?" As you said, No positive proof of eligibility shown to date means "failed to qualify." Now what?

Can anyone really debate Obama "failed to qualify?" And if he did not qualify, as Ed Vieira stated, "If Obama took the Presidential “Oath or Affirmation” of office, knowing that he is not “a natural born Citizen,” he knowingly committed the crime of perjury or false swearing (see Article II, Section 1, Clause 7). For, being ineligible for “the Office of President, he cannot “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States,” or even execute it at all, to any degree. Thus, his very act of taking the “Oath or Affirmation” will be a violation thereof." Whoa. . .

While I'm at it, one of my pet peeves about Obama is not only his total lack of vetting but his 'security clearance' vetting. I'm under the assumption that anyone that runs for President gets the fine tooth microscopic background search by the FBI and CIA, either officially or unofficially. You know the Mossad did it. You tell me they didn't find a ton of data of concern? Yet, he got on the ballot, no problem. Most of us with any military background had to go through a thorough background check by the FBI to get any kind of security clearance. The President does not?

32 posted on 06/03/2012 11:49:07 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: ebysan

It is obvious to anyone with a pinch of intelligence that the birth certs are all forgeries, but once it’s legally proven or proven in the mind of the general public, etc.

I suppose 0mugabe may try to claim he didn’t know but that obviously won’t work.

And even if team Zero tries to use FMD as the fallback “father” there will be no records for that, either. So they are in a dilemma, poor things.


33 posted on 06/03/2012 12:14:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
I'm more and more of the opinion there isn't a Long Form Birth Certificate. They destroyed it because of what was on it, or it never was filed. Grandma got the notes in the paper, but that is not a LFBC O'Reilly. .

So, no Long Form Birth Certificate, No Ballot this go around. If no ballot this time, his Presidency is null and void as he failed to qualify last time. Am I missing something here?

34 posted on 06/03/2012 12:36:41 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: little jeremiah

“I suppose 0mugabe may try to claim he didn’t know but that obviously won’t work.

And even if team Zero tries to use FMD as the fallback “father” there will be no records for that, either. So they are in a dilemma, poor things.”

I have read recently about an Oct surprise... A copy of the real BC will be produced

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April 20th,2009 (It did not occur to me at the time to copy URL & author’s name)

**[MargaretSmith/Banking Trade Commerce Canadian Printing Press/Obama]**

From the original report about Obama’s administration doing a long form Birth Certificate “Forgery”:

“They have already prepared the “forgery” with special paper and ink.

The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto.

Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.”

Expounding on this striking detail, some blanks needed to be filled in.

Locating the Museum in Toronto with a printing press that would do the job

Are you ready for this?

Research was done on nearly every Museum in the Toronto area for a printing press that was operational and could do a “forgery”.

Everything connecting museums in the area with this type and age of printing press kept pointing back to one Museum in the area.

The name of the Museum this the “National Museum of Science and Technology” in Toronto.

It has quite a collection of older printing presses. Below is a snippet of the Museums description:

Among numerous exhibits in this educational facility is a collection of printing equipment that includes flatbeds, jobbers, cylinder and rotary presses (http://www.briarpress.org/139)

Identifying a Trustee with links to Canadian banking and investment firms

The next item of business was to find any Trustees (as mentioned by the report) to this Museum that had a connection to a large Canadian investment firm. After looking into this, one person really stood out right away.

The Museum only has three Trustees assigned to it and Margaret Smith came up with a numerous ties to Canada’s economic and investment banking syndicate.

It is likely because she serves on the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce for Canada. This definitely qualifies her for being connected to not just one, but several Canadian banking and investment firms.

If it is like in the US, then she probably gets “kick-backs” from more than one firm, by introducing legislation to the Committee that will benefit the firms substantially. The Trustee of the Museum and member of the Senate Banking Committee appear to be the same Margaret Smith, though not 100% certain.

Canadian Source URL confirming Margaret Smith attending a Senate Banking Committee meeting:http://www.parl.gc.ca/36/1/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/bank-e/27mn-e.htm?Language=E&Parl=36&Ses=1&comm_id=3 (how much you want to bet this gets scrubbed?).

Canadian Source URL confirming Margaret Smith as a Trustee to the Museum (this one less likely to get scrubbed, but probably will)
Both sources were backed up, along with images.

There are still some questions left, like who did Obama meet with and that is also a member of this same Banking Committee on his recent trip to Canada?


35 posted on 06/03/2012 12:48:51 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: Brown Deer

Maybe the Supremes are just waiting until they’ve disposed of “Obamacare” and then they’ll get right on this one.


They’re waiting until he is defeated in the November elections, then they’ll proceed to say he was not eligible in the first place (after the fact).


36 posted on 06/03/2012 1:51:24 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: ebysan

I remember that. But even if they were to make a “good” forgery at this point, there’s the “bad” forgeries. And the “good” one would have to match up with the records at the DoH. It’s too late for a “good” forgery.


37 posted on 06/03/2012 7:07:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

“I remember that. But even if they were to make a “good” forgery at this point, there’s the “bad” forgeries. And the “good” one would have to match up with the records at the DoH. It’s too late for a “good” forgery.”

the Dems will do anything to keep Obama in the WH!!
I am so sick of the “Fraud” in our WH........... I want him to be exposed, removed from the WH & Charged with “Treason” against America!!


38 posted on 06/03/2012 9:18:12 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: ebysan; little jeremiah

It doesn’t help when nobody in Congress wants to touch this,
lest they be called “racist”


39 posted on 06/04/2012 9:53:25 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: azishot

This is going to have to be settled because the names “Marco Rubio” and “Bobby Jindal” are floating about as Romney running mates. Neither of them is the child of American citizens, not natural-born citizens. There is also NO legal requirement for a potential candidate to prove that he or she is a natural-born citizen, and no definitive definition under the law of what a natural-born citizen actually IS.
We can no longer assume that traditional American cultural values of honesty and telling the truth exist here as they did for so long; when a man’s word was his bond and a deal could be sealed with a handshake. I’m sure no one ever dreamed that something like Barack Obama could be foisted off on an unsuspecting American public, and allowed to squat in the White House...THE PEOPLE’S HOUSE.


40 posted on 06/05/2012 8:21:10 AM PDT by GMA213 (We will fight you until Hell freezes over; then we will fight you on ICE!)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Sure looks to me like they’re going to be able to run out the clock.


41 posted on 06/05/2012 8:39:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
"Sure looks to me like they’re going to be able to run out the clock."

You may very well be right, at least in terms of avoiding ouster before the elections this fall. Five months is an eternity in politics, however. Literally anything can happen between now and November.

Arpio's Cold Case Posse could give their next report on their findings, said to be "shocking," any day now.

Additionally, there is a judge in Florida who has allowed discovery to go forward on the two-parent aspect of natural born citizenship.

I thought this was interesting concerning judge Terry Lewis:

Klayman told WND that during a hearing today on discovery issues in the case, Lewis noted that while Klayman’s brief cited a U.S. Supreme Court’s decision defining “natural born citizen” as the offspring of two citizens of the nation, the White House’s arguments provided no citations.

We'll see. Or not. Either way, it's been one heck of an intellectual journey researching all of this stuff. Fascinating in a horrific, outrage-inspiring way.

42 posted on 06/06/2012 1:11:12 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; Brown Deer; edge919
They’re waiting until he is defeated in the November elections, then they’ll proceed to say he was not eligible in the first place (after the fact).

I agree with your scenario. My belief is that SCOTUS knew about his eligibility problems from the get-go but wanted to avoid political disruption. Let the voters remove BO, they will do the cleanup work.

Of course, there is the little matter of two seats on the SCOTUS having to be vacated because they were filled by the usurper's appointees.

43 posted on 06/06/2012 1:22:10 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Literally anything can happen between now and November.

Drudge had something up yesterday about Jill Biden saying "Joe will make a great President."

Supposedly for 2016.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/jill-biden-says-joe-biden-would-make-a-great-president/2012/06/05/gJQArsrdGV_blog.html

Really, now?

44 posted on 06/06/2012 1:29:31 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Of course, there is the little matter of two seats on the SCOTUS having to be vacated because they were filled by the usurper’s appointees.


As well as the prosecution of forging state and federal documents...I’m wondering if the citizens of the US can file a class action civil lawsuit against the fraud to ensure he does not benefit financially from “selling his story”.


45 posted on 06/06/2012 7:26:19 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: thecodont
"Drudge had something up yesterday about Jill Biden saying 'Joe will make a great President.'

Supposedly for 2016."

Yeah, I saw that. Since "Obama" failed to demonstrably qualify for office by the time of inauguration, under the Twentieth Amendment Section 3, Biden has technically been president since 20 January 2009 from my understanding.

Perhaps that's why the swearing-in ceremony was "flubbed" by Chief Justice Roberts. . .

46 posted on 06/06/2012 3:34:43 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Yeah, I saw that. Since "Obama" failed to demonstrably qualify for office by the time of inauguration, under the Twentieth Amendment Section 3, Biden has technically been president since 20 January 2009 from my understanding.

Yes.

When I watched the video of Biden's swearing-in, I heard Justice Stevens address him as "Mr. President" (almost with an audible chuckle).

You will recall that Biden did NOT flub his oath.

47 posted on 06/06/2012 6:57:36 PM PDT by thecodont
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