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Obama Lowers Flags to Half Mast for CO Massacre: Ft. Hood - Not so Fast!
Maggie's Notebook ^ | 7-20-12 | Maggie@MaggiesNotebook

Posted on 07/20/2012 9:19:28 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook

When 14 persons (one unborn), most of them military personnel on the base at Ft. Hood, Texas, were murdered by Islamic terrorist and U.S. Military Colonel Nidal Hasan, America's flags were not lowered to half mast until the next day. Today, by at least 2:30 pm EDT, the order came down from on high to lower our flags in a sign of mourning for the victims of today's shootings inside an Aurora Colorado movie theatre showing the much awaited Batman: The Dark Knight Rises.

In the case of Ft. Hood, Obama had to be bullied into the national gesture of mourning by Texas patriot, Anita Ross:

FYI…the White House/staff had no intention of lowering the flags…in fact, early Friday AM after the “closet Muslim terrorist” had finished his “atrocity against Army” warriors, the flags were raised to “full staff.”

Anita burned up the phone lines in D.C. and in Texas…Congressmen/women…Governor Perry’s office…White House…all heard from her as she “assaulted the arrogance” of the clueless bureaucrats who mostly despise our military…demanding that honor be shown by lowering the flags.

She was stonewalled, ignored, shunned…everywhere but in Texas.

When it became obvious that the Liar-in-Chief and his team were completely ignorant, insensitive and insipid toward the “atrocity” (not “tragedy”) at Ft. Hood…Read the rest of the story at Pam Geller's

In the meantime, Liberal press has already erroneously reported that today's shooter, James E. Holmes was a member of a Colorado TEA Party. He wasn't. Then ABC corrected the story with no apology, and later issued an apology.

Don't misunderstand my meaning here. Flags should be lowered when the President decides they should be lowered, but his attitude toward the Ft. Hood killings continues to appall. Read my continuing  ongoing reports on today's shooting here.

Background and Related:

James Holmes NOT a TEA Party member - ABCs Brian Ross Apologizes - Imbeciles!

James Holmes Facebook Page - Think I Saw it Today - Now It's Gone

 


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: batman; flagathalfmast; forthood; fthoodmassacre; hasan; jamesholmes; oldglory

1 posted on 07/20/2012 9:19:42 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook

The Mulato Muslim Marxist doesnt give a chit about the military, that’s why! (SPIT)


2 posted on 07/20/2012 9:23:20 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: maggiesnotebook

he’s “evolved.”


3 posted on 07/20/2012 9:23:54 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: maggiesnotebook

What was the ethnicity/race of the majority of the Fort Hood victims? The Colorado victims? Just asking.


4 posted on 07/20/2012 9:25:22 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MagUSNRET

Move over, Trayvon - we got us a bigger gun story to fry


5 posted on 07/20/2012 9:25:39 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: maggiesnotebook

When the Fort Hood massacre occurred an election was not on the immediate horizon.


6 posted on 07/20/2012 9:26:34 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will NEVER get my vote.)
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To: maggiesnotebook

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2908891/posts?page=81

Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged


7 posted on 07/20/2012 9:26:42 PM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: maggiesnotebook

CBA Just announced that the Colorado shooter is in Fact,
a registered Democrat and a close Friend to Eric Holder..

He also sent a Happy Birthday Card to Nancy Pelosi and thanked her for Her “good advice”....

see. How easy it is to start a LIE. this is the Goal of The Media Scum.


8 posted on 07/20/2012 9:27:11 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: maggiesnotebook
I may offend some, but lowering the flag on every occasion is taking away the meaning, in my opinion.

This is trending toward making the gesture as irrelevant as the Nobel Prize , a Pulitzer or an Oscar.

9 posted on 07/20/2012 9:38:14 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: Baynative

No offense taken here- I always took it to be a matter of State; a national issue of remembrance or the death of someone who gave their life or lifetime of service to the Republic.

This was a crime by a demonically possessed freak.

Obama has no sense of protocol, and is advised by clowns with no sense of service to country or loyalty thereto.


10 posted on 07/20/2012 9:50:54 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Baynative

Just think.. if we lowered it every time 14 died in a Chicago shooting we’d never be able to raise it to the top.


11 posted on 07/20/2012 9:52:10 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: Baynative

I agree. When I looked at the etiquette behind this, there are certain holidays, Memorial Day and Veterans Day and when a President or Governor wants to do so.

Remember Christie lowering it for Whitney Houston?

I do think it should have been done for Ft. Hood.


12 posted on 07/20/2012 9:54:35 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook

He wasn’t in ‘campaign’ mode then, just ‘paying back his bro’s’ mode then.


13 posted on 07/20/2012 9:56:36 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: maggiesnotebook

This is crazy anti gun theater by Barack Obama, nothing more.

Why doesn’t the flag dip every time Chicago racks up 14 murders?


14 posted on 07/20/2012 9:56:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: maggiesnotebook

Keep your outrage next to your heart. Vote your outrage in November. Get rid of every Dem scum sucking pig!


15 posted on 07/20/2012 9:58:00 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Rembrandt

I second that emotion.


16 posted on 07/20/2012 10:08:31 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook
Fully expecting Obama to make a speech at a memorial for the victims in the near future.
17 posted on 07/20/2012 10:09:15 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: maggiesnotebook

right on track as usual


18 posted on 07/20/2012 10:12:26 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: maggiesnotebook

I bet he wanted to lower it for Trayvon.


19 posted on 07/20/2012 10:13:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: maggiesnotebook

It’s just his socialist “teachable moments” doncha know?


20 posted on 07/20/2012 10:15:03 PM PDT by Route395
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To: Baynative

Your absolutely right, it’s “taking away the meaning.”

And we have a perfectly good and apt adjective for that: demeaning.

Lowering the American flag in the wake of a tragedy is absurd. And that’s what this terrible crime was to these victims and their families — a tragedy. No more and no less. It’s a car accident. It’s a bolt of lightning. It’s cancer.

Those who go along with lowering the flag in response to a tragedy like this have no understanding of this country or her people.

It’s disrespectful to the entire nation, but particularly those who serve this country in uniform.


21 posted on 07/20/2012 10:49:34 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: maggiesnotebook

Obama had to show his solidarity with Hasan. Today he had to work with Holmes in promoting gun control. One was a matter of faith and loyalty, the other a matter of politics.


22 posted on 07/20/2012 10:55:41 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Blue Ink

“a tragedy”

I beg to differ. It’s mass murder, not a tragedy. It’s a heinous crime. With victims and aggrieved people left behind.

But it’s mass murder, not tragedy.


23 posted on 07/20/2012 10:56:13 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots
I don't think we're in disagreement. I called it a "terrible crime" in my post. trag·e·dy/ˈtrajidē/ Noun: An event causing great suffering, destruction, and distress, such as a serious accident, crime, or natural catastrophe.
24 posted on 07/20/2012 11:31:39 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: maggiesnotebook
Using this as the standard, The flag should be at half mast every day for all the killing that is going on in Chicago EVERY DAY.

Didnt hear about this in the national news. Did you? 10 dead and 40 wounded in one weekend.

27 homicides in the first 3 weeks of July!!??!! Where is the outrage?? The sympathy??

Over 250 homicides in Chicago in the first 180 days of 2012!!

Dont these dead people and their families have the same right to have their deaths and misery exploited for political gain as the Batman fans of Aurora Colorado?

25 posted on 07/20/2012 11:40:37 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I was typin’ as fast as I could !!


26 posted on 07/20/2012 11:41:52 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: maggiesnotebook

27 killed on Chicago streets this month alone. Flags are at full staff.

Go figure.


27 posted on 07/21/2012 12:03:52 AM PDT by llevrok (2012 : Elect Adults)
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To: One Name
I always took it to be a matter of State

Obama: "States Smates! They are nothing with out me. I am THE emperor so do as I say!"

28 posted on 07/21/2012 12:08:19 AM PDT by llevrok (2012 : Elect Adults)
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To: maggiesnotebook

How come Obummer doesn’t lower the flag to half-mast for the 250 folks already murdered this year in the city of Chicago? That’s 20 times more than the Colorado killings and most of the murdered in Chicago are black. Is Obummer a racist or something, refusing to honor the dead blacks in Chicago?


29 posted on 07/21/2012 12:18:42 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Baynative; One Name

Absolutely! I was always taught that the flag was lowered for someone serving our country — like the military, a Congressman, senator, maybe a mayor. In the case of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, our country was attacked. This afternoon, when I came back to my hotel, I was surprised when the TV was making a big deal about the local college President (in CA) lowered the college flag. I said, “What is the point of that? The victims weren’t from CA, or from this college.” It seemed stupid and irrelevant. Then I found out that Obama had ordered it. It still seems stupid and irrelevent.

Since I’m more than 2000 miles away from home, my flag is still flying high. It will remain that way.


30 posted on 07/21/2012 12:24:07 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: maggiesnotebook

The purpose behind lowering the flags and keeping them lowered until Wednesday has a much more practical and helpful purpose for the Obama administration. What it does is put politics ‘on hold’ for a number of days in light of the hits Obama is taking for his true from the heart statements in Roanoke last week.

Secondly, it gives him the chance to reinvent himself once again, similar to the bump he got after the Giffords shooting in AZ in early-2011. He can claim a presidential tone, milk it and use it as another opportunity to attack the NRA and 2nd Amendment supporters. The timing couldn’t be better given the push to put us under UN treaties restricting our right to bear arms.

Thirdly, this is an opportunity for Obama to use this massacre as his own Oklahoma City, playing Clinton to the sagging democrat masses.

This massacre is the kind of opportunities liberals love to use for political gain. They are cornered, scared and looking for a way to change the subject. They will use this to the max and the lowering of the flags is just a small first step.


31 posted on 07/21/2012 12:27:32 AM PDT by untwist
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To: Blue Ink
It's not that we're in distinct disagreement. However, notice that the words “natural catastrophe” occur in the definition posted. My point is that this mass murder is not a force of nature, outside man's control.

This is mass murder, facilitated and exacerbated by gun-free zone policies, dilution of 2A rights, civility and courtesy in society, and entertainment that values more and perverse violence as art.

It is quite literally a perfect demonstration of what happens to an unarmed society. It's just that the murderer wasn't LEO or military. These people were fish in a barrel.

32 posted on 07/21/2012 6:43:16 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: maggiesnotebook
By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. -- United States Code §175 Position and manner of display, Flag of the United States

So no, the flag shouldn't be lowered 'when the President decides they should be lowered'. This is a horrible act of evil but the lowering of the national standard is generally reserved for the deaths of principal figures rather than to score cheap political points at 0bama is trying to do. Some states lower their flags for combat deaths -- this is understandable and in my mind also appropriate.

You should also educate yourself on the difference between half-staff and half-mast. Flags over land fly at half-staff. Flags over water fly ay half-mast. The terms are not interchangeable.

33 posted on 07/21/2012 6:53:22 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Borrowed....
34 posted on 07/21/2012 8:01:43 AM PDT by LUV W (Never forget...WE have THEM surrounded! ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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To: combat_boots

Heh, you were listening to Mark Steyn on Rush yesterday, weren’t you?
An excellent point made...


35 posted on 07/21/2012 9:18:27 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: LtKerst

What or who is CBA?

Where can I find what you just wrote?

Thank you.


36 posted on 07/21/2012 10:17:50 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: combat_boots

“It is quite literally a perfect demonstration of what happens to an unarmed society. It’s just that the murderer wasn’t LEO or military. These people were fish in a barrel.”

Agreed.


37 posted on 07/21/2012 11:28:03 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Thanks Colonel. I’ll do that.


38 posted on 07/22/2012 7:19:24 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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