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Modern wheat a "perfect, chronic poison," doctor says
CBS News ^ | September 3, 2012

Posted on 09/29/2012 5:32:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: cherry
reading a preppers thread about putting wheat, barley,rice, etc etc away for long term storage, and then coming here and reading that it’s all bad for you...:(

On the scale of problematicals, starving to death is much less preferable than eating something that might be somewhat unhealthful.

IF (repeat, IF) this worries you, look for older, heirloom varieties; if stored properly, they can not only be eaten, but also planted.

101 posted on 09/30/2012 12:57:19 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BOOKbump


102 posted on 09/30/2012 1:10:41 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (That Kenyan muzzy bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: arderkrag

Different plants are different, thats reality.


103 posted on 09/30/2012 3:26:17 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: muawiyah

This article is not about celibacy disease. That is real, obviously, but only affects a tiny minority. Thus article is about a quack calling wheat a “poison” because something in it increases your appetite. Which is just a way to grab headlines.

We are fat because we eat too much and mive around too little, period. Not because sugar and wheat are secretly poisons. Which is not to say you won’t lose weight easier by targeting what calories you eliminate. The easiest way is to cut out what is most obviously bad for you, which is usually what’s tastiest ot most addictive. Or just wgat makes you feel worst after your done with it, as in comparing a giant bowl of pasta to a carrot, or something. We don’t need to blame phantoms.


104 posted on 09/30/2012 5:31:35 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: djf

You’re talking about natural selection. By that logic we shouldn’t eat chicken or steak because if you could see cows and chickens before they were domesticated, boy oh boy. Except we did domesticate them, as we did strawberries and wheat. And we made them better, or rather harnessed their evolution to our purposes. It just so happened that when we got really good at it we also got fat for unrelated reasons.


105 posted on 09/30/2012 5:37:25 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: muawiyah

I meant celibacy disease, stupid computer.


106 posted on 09/30/2012 5:38:23 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: ApplegateRanch
This is the way it is believed to have come to pass. First, there were only people ~ real people ~ with all the genes they needed to be able to acquire and eat food that was good for them.

Then one day somebody had a mutant baby and that baby grew up able to eat the otherwise dangerous to eat wheat, barley and rye.

Eventually there were a lot of babies who could eat those dangerous plants, and they began to outnumber the original, non-mutated humans!

Now they imagine wheat, barley and rye are healthful and that the original model humans with all the correct genes are somehow DAMAGED.

We have the same situation with lactose intolerance. The original people did not drink milk after childhood because they could no longer digest it properly ~ unless they turned it into aged cheddar or yoghurt.

Then, there's rice ~ it was first domesticated in the Aleutian islands and brought South to East Asia where mutant people arose who could eat it EXCEPT 10% of Japanese cannot! The mechanism is similar to that which prevents West Asian folks from eating wheat, barley and rye although the allergic expression is different. They lose their skin to great welts, whereas with coeliac you just lose your guts!

Fortunately there's corn. There's tapioca. There's sorghum. There's ....... well, a wide variety of other nourishing and edible plants. That's why we still have the original models of humanity wandering about

107 posted on 09/30/2012 6:52:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tublecane
Are you trying to type C O E L I A C

That's 3.54% of the population in this country. When a family has a single member with coeliac or wheat gluten intolerance that means the diets of all the others will be limited ~ since the impact of a mistake is so devastating.

That gets you up to 10% affected in some way and at that point the folks who run grocery stores and package food start getting really concerned.

But let's go beyond that a bit ~ there are related problems. Many of the folks with what's called autism also have something called leaky bowel syndrome. little teeny tiny holes show up in their bowels and allow the entry of peptides that would otherwise be prevented from entry into the blood stream. It's not coeliac but the treatment is the same ~ avoid foods with the same problematic peptides found in wheat, barley and rye. That's another 4 or 5% of the population restricting family diets due to the ailment of a single member.

You encounter a 15% situation (Combined coeliac and autism) and groceries do more than get concerned ~ they PANIC!!!!!

Beer marketers shed tears and vinters leap for show.

Up until some time in the 1930s it was believed that Cystic Fibrosis (CF) AND Coeliac were the same disease. Some of the dietary restrictions are still in order with both. But either condition will create intense concern over what the children eat and that affects the bottom line at Safeway and Giant in ways you almost can't imagine. I think Wal-mart is still a gluten free holdout ~ last thing they'll do is start selling $3.50 loaves of bread to a minority.

108 posted on 09/30/2012 7:44:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: driftdiver

Yes, but modern wheat isn’t a poison. That’s also reality. Ditto for modern corn, chicken, beef, etc.


109 posted on 09/30/2012 8:06:40 AM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: driftdiver

Yes, but modern wheat isn’t a poison. That’s also reality. Ditto for modern corn, chicken, beef, etc.


110 posted on 09/30/2012 8:08:35 AM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: arderkrag

“Yes, but modern wheat isn’t a poison. “

And you know this how? I’m sure “wheat” as a general statement isn’t poison, in fact the doctor says that in his report. He says some modern strains contain a protein which acts as an opiate.


111 posted on 09/30/2012 9:19:31 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I read “Wheat Belly” and immediately gave up wheat and my belly is GONE. I exercise and lift weights and the six pack is back!
:-)


112 posted on 09/30/2012 10:41:02 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Note: this topic is from 9/29/2012. Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. Low-gluten diets are this decade's fad, the same way low-fat, chronic fatigue, epstein-barr, etc have had their time.

113 posted on 10/14/2012 2:54:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: arderkrag
Ditto to anyone who thinks that Monsanto corn is a tool of a giant conspiracy to experiment on the human race.

You mean like the Starlink that got into the Taco Shells that put my mother in the hospital ER with allergic reactions, repeatedly, before we figured out what was causing the problem? (She had never had a reaction to corn before that, and had used that brand of taco shells without a problem prior to that).

It may not be an experiment on the human race, but if your field of non-Monsanto corn gets pollinated by the Monsanto corn across the road, they'll sure come after YOU for patent infringement, so maybe there is some sort of 'conspiracy' in there somewhere.

114 posted on 10/14/2012 5:38:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: ConorMacNessa
I didn't notice any Laphroaig...?

Cheers!

115 posted on 10/14/2012 1:56:34 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
I used to be 5 cups of coffee on an empty stomach before going into some kind of hypoglycemic shock state around 2 pm. I just can’t do that any more.

Here, you might enjoy this.

Jim's Big Ego -- Stress.

Cheers!

116 posted on 10/14/2012 2:05:33 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SunkenCiv

All I eat are Burger King Croissan’Wiches (delete the meat), mashed potatoes and cold turkey sandwiches (white bread). Does this stuff affect me? Oh, I just ate a cup of Lucky Charms.


117 posted on 10/14/2012 2:27:27 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: muawiyah

“I think Wal-mart is still a gluten free holdout “

Our Walmart here in li’l ol’ Rockwood, TN, does have a gluten-free section. It’s not very big, but it’s there.


118 posted on 10/14/2012 2:32:05 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: grey_whiskers
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!



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119 posted on 10/14/2012 3:07:58 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Atkins was right. Minimize flour and sugar consumption, and you’ll do fine.


120 posted on 10/14/2012 3:13:43 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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