Skip to comments.Russian Military Intel Tells Kremlin Obama Fired Military Officers Because He 'Fears a Coup'
Posted on 11/21/2012 5:23:06 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
'The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of AFRICOM received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
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Just needs more “flexibility”, now.
So many Hussein Heads around us, gushing at his every word.
Our muslim anti-American president owns the stage now and will take down anyone who presents a threat.
I thought this whole thing with Ham had been debunked numerous times.
Why don’t we ask General Ham what happened?
Oh, I think he’s been sent to Ice Station Zebra, with all of the survivors of Benghazi.
And their radio is evidently broken.
Why aren’t these men coming forward to congress,are pensions and career worth having under a dictator?
This may be inaccurate,but I am sure the Russian’s have a better handle on what is going on than US citizens or Congress does. They haven’t given up spying and they are good at it.
Sorcha Faal is an old, discredited and kooky disinfo activist. One of her bravura acts was how Bush made Katrina and sank New Orleans. If my memory isn’t all shot to h*ll.
Uggh, not this idiocy again; CSG 3 (Stennis) was in the Pacific at the time, and couldn't possibly have done the slightest thing in Benghazi.
There's plenty of real, actual, fishy things about Benghazi - all of this ill-informed kooktastic nutter stuff actually hurts the argument and helps Obama immensely by discrediting the Right.
It had? Remember, when it comes to Obama just because somebdody said so that doesn’t make it real ~ dude’s in outerspace when it comes to figuring out what it is.
Others caught-up in the recent Obama power-consolidation-and-truth-burying purge because they know too much (re. Benghazigate) -like Hillary Clinton and Gen David Petraeus-
are gone or on their way out as well.
I don’t know why Hillary is leaving or even if she is, but one thing I do know:-—It isn’t because she refuses to bury the truth-—LMAO That is ludicrous.
There isn’t a more happy liar in this world than Hillary.
I trust Pravda far more than the White Hut these days when it comes to telling the truth. A coup is a bit of a stretch, but Obama is purging the officer ranks of as many conservatives as he can find, and replacing them with those whose first loyalty is to the president, not the Constitution.
I wonder about all these military 'suicides'
Men trained to kill or be killed somehow just don't fit the profile of, "I can't take it any more .. I'm gonn'a ice myself ... to hell with family, wife, kids, God, country apple pie and Chevrolet"
It may be clearer now why Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed ... murdered, if you will.
Can you imagine what they'd have to say if they should've survived?
It seems the Canadian and British press have been more accurate this last year.
I have to say this was my first thought, but if the brass truly cared about the USA, zero would never have been immaculated in the first place. It’s up to us now. No one is going to rescue the USA.
Timing is everything! Wait til you see the whites of their eyes, comes to mind.
The lib/dems are working themselves into a corner faster than any would have thought. Over-reach is their SOP.
Changing hostile commanders is not unknown in American history. General MacArthur was effectively exiled to the Philippine after he publicly clashed with Franklin Roosevelt over defense cuts. General Edwin Walker was removed from command by Kennedy when he used right-wing materials to educate troops under his command. Later, Walker was railroaded into a mental institution by the Kennedys, where only pressure from conservative Congressmen effected his release.
Ann Barnhardt nailed it.
Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany on January 30, 1933. Hitler then moved quickly to marginalize and then dispense entirely with the German Legislature, the Reichstag, and to effectively eliminate all political parties other than the National Socialist (Nazi) Party.
The last step in Hitler's quest for total, dictatorial power was the purging of the German military of any factions that were in any way autonomous and not 100% loyal to him, specifically the SA (Sturmabteilung, which means Storm Detachment).
The SA was run by Ernst Rohm, who, like most of the founding and high-level members of the Nazi Party and eventually the Third Reich, was a homosexual ephebophile (preferring teenaged boys). In fact, Rohm was a militant and vocal homosexual in the spirit of the ancient Greeks and musloids who believed that women were sub-human and that truly masculine men only had sex with other men and boys.
While Hitler and the rest of his circle were themselves also homosexuals, Rohm's flagrant openness about his perversions was all Hitler needed to execute a purge. On June 30, 1934 the "Night of the Long Knives" was executed. Rohm and the rest of the SA leaders were killed. Hitler publicly explained that the purge was executed because of sexual perversion in the ranks of the SA who were "plotting" against him. Hitler also used the opportunity to kill any other enemies or otherwise inconvenient or "untrustworthy" people that Hitler wanted or needed dead in order to achieve total dictatorial power. Once Hitler had achieved that power, he made the following nationally-broadcast announcement before the now-totally irrelevant legislature, the Reichstag, and the world:
In this hour I was responsible for the fate of the German people, and thereby I became the supreme judge of the German people. I gave the order to shoot the ringleaders in this treason, and I further gave the order to cauterise down to the raw flesh the ulcers of this poisoning of the wells in our domestic life. Let the nation know that its existence which depends on its internal order and security cannot be threatened with impunity by anyone! And let it be known for all time to come that if anyone raises his hand to strike the State, then certain death is his lot.
Adolf Hitler, July 13, 1934
A variant of this is what is happening right now. The Obama Putsch regime is now consolidating power and is purging the military of any flag officers that either have inside information that could blow the lid off the regime and/or men that they fear could organize a junta or counter-coup. And, as with Rohm and the SA, the modern American flag officer corps, as I have said many, many times, is a hive of sickening moral degenerates. Almost ALL flag officers today are adulterous fornicators who can be blackmailed exactly like Petraeus.
When I was a teenager back in Leavenworth, Kansas, I had occasion to become acquainted with a German lady who had just married a US Army flag officer that she met while working as a civilian contractor on a US Army base in Germany. Her husband was transferred to Ft. Leavenworth, which almost all flag officers pass through at some point. She was a strikingly handsome woman and super-sharp. She was very happy and was eagerly trying to get pregnant and start her family, as she was 35 or so at the time.
The last time I saw her, she was in a state of shock. She had left her husband, was filing for divorce, homeless and trying to organize getting back to Germany. Here is what happened.
She had finally become pregnant. She had just found out and hadn't even told her husband yet. They had been invited to and were attending a party being thrown by the post commander at his home that evening. Most of the upper-echelon flag officers at Ft. Leavenworth would be there. She was very excited and happy that she and her husband were literally now moving amongst the highest levels of the top brass in the US military, and she planned to tell her husband that night after the party that she was pregnant.
They arrived at the party in the gorgeous and huge old home of the post commander. In the foyer, there was a large bowl that all of the men placed their car keys into upon entering the house. She figured that this had something to do with drunk driving protections, as there was certainly drinking at this party. She thought nothing of it.
As midnight rolled around, the party suddenly concluded. All of the couples then moved into the foyer. One by one, the wives stepped up to the bowl full of keys and drew out a set at random. The wives then matched the keys up with their male owners and then left with that man.
It was a wife-swapping party.
When my acquaintance realized what was going on she refused. Her husband was livid.
When she got home she packed a bag and left. The stress of going from being on top of the world and happier than she had ever been to having her marriage destroyed, being betrayed so casually and sickeningly by her husband, and being made essentially homeless and penniless in a span of about five minutes caused her to immediately miscarry the baby a few hours later.
I can't tell you how many emails I have received over the last year and a half from men who have exited the United States Military as either a Captain or Major because they simply could not bear to be a part of the repulsive, honorless, amoral culture. They couldn't advance because at a certain point you literally have to sell your soul and become a purely political animal in order to climb the ladder.
And are you really surprised? Every single flag officer in the United States Military today is, by definition, an oath-breaking traitor. Barack Obama is not eligible to be POTUS and is almost certainly not a U.S. citizen. And not ONE WORD. Not one word from the flag officer corps. Why? Because they are politicians at heart, and they will never do anything to jeopardize their O-7, O-8, O-9 or O-10 pension packages.
Am I surprised that Petraeus and Allen and the rest are pathetic, pervy fornicators with the common sense of a pile of toenail clippings? Am I surprised that Petraeus was sending dozens and dozens of emails per day to his girlfriend and that their pillowtalk included national secuity secrets? Am I surprised that Petraues and Allen have spent their careers walking around with a "BLACKMAIL ME" sign taped to their backs? Nope. These people are imbeciles and psychopaths who implemented and oversaw rules of engagement that have intentionally gotten our boys killed as a literal sacrifice of total submission to islam. Watch this and then tell me what an intelligent and honorable man David Petraeus is:
And now, the Obama putsch regime is purging them and anyone else they deem to be a threat. It won't surprise me if Petraeus is indeed court martialed and stripped of his pension, because that is what the rest of the flag officer corps fears more than death. Make an example of Petraeus, and maybe Allen, and that will whip the rest of them into line.
This process of a totalitarian oligarchy constantly purging its own ranks in fits of paranoia and demands for total personal loyalty is as old as the hills. Lenin and Stalin eventually murdered almost every person that entered their inner-circles. Same with Mao. Same with Saddam Hussein. Same with the three Kims in North Korea. Beyond the Night of the Long Knives, Hitler was also having his own people killed continuously.
Just as the Night of the Long Knives in '34 was just the beginning, so too is this situation in the former American republic just the beginning.
Oh I think this situation stinks and almost certainly involves Obama hanging Americans out to die and then running an incompetent coverup. Obama is also doing
everything he can to weaken our military defenses, including systems, people and traditions.
I just think we need to be careful not to overstate the known facts. Making charges of a military coup is a very dangerous charge and you’d better be right. It will spread further distrust of the military among those who make up Obama’s base. It will also lead to distraction from what we know happened, the deaths of four Americans and a significant loss of Americas honor because Obama failed.
We’re in a knockdown war with street thugs, and we get no scoring points for sicking to the Queensbury Rules while our enemies are landing low blows and throwing sand in our faces.
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So Gen. Ham wasn’t relieved of duty?
Patriot Generals remove treasonous Obama.
Only in my wet dreams...
Been in and closely associated with the US military for over 30 yrs. Yes, I believe those parties used to happen, as they did in civilian country-club society, but they don’t now. Yes, many upper-ranking military officers make moral accomodations, but not all of them. (Way too many, however.) I don’t believe there is an active-duty military coup in the making. This is a military smear article by a slime merchant who’s been waiting to crawl out of her hole. I think Petreus has been a dirt-bag from the beginning, and his policies BS. There are still many honorable military personnel who have sacrificed everything to serve their country and this article is pure BS.
Obama to Nominate Rodriguez as Next Africa Command Chief
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Oct. 18, 2012 President Barack Obama intends to nominate Army Gen. David M. Rodriguez to succeed Army Gen. Carter F. Ham as the commander of U.S. Africa Command, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta said here today.
U.S. Africa Command is the newest combatant command, and its headquarters is in Stuttgart, Germany. The command encompasses all of Africa and its adjacent waters except for Egypt.
The Senate must confirm Rodriguez, who currently is commander of U.S. Army Forces Command at Fort Bragg, N.C.
He has served in a variety of key leadership roles on the battlefield, Panetta said in announcing the president’s plans to nominate Rodriguez. He was the first commander of the International Security Assistance Force Joint Command, the corps-level command in Afghanistan. He was the commander during the surge into Afghanistan, and was a key architect of the successful campaign plan that we are now implementing, Panetta said.
Ham has served as the Africa Command chief since March 2011. Under his leadership, Africom has played a very central role in some very important missions, the secretary said. From the NATO campaign in Libya that led to the fall of Gadhafi to successful counterterrorism efforts in Somalia [and] Yemen to efforts we are now involved in in Nigeria and Mali and elsewhere, General Ham has really brought Africom into a very pivotal role in that challenging region.
The nation is deeply grateful for his outstanding service, he said.
Panetta also announced that the president plans to nominate Lt. Gen. John M. Paxton Jr. to receive his fourth star and serve as the next assistant commandant of the Marine Corps. He would succeed Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., the preident’s choice to command coalition and U.S. troops in Afghanistan. Paxton is commander of Marine Corps Forces Command, Marine Fleet Force Atlantic and U.S. Marine Corps Forces Europe. Paxton and Dunford also must be confirmed by the Senate.
Doesn’t say, but I read Gen. Ham is planning to retire in the spring of 2013.
Russians would know about these kind of things.....all that was missing was the one-way ticket to The Lubyanka.
Much of today’s U.S. society does not respect the military and those that disrespect our military men and women are increasing in numbers.
Tomb of the Unknown Soldier disrespect not tolerated
Examiner.com ^ | Nov 20, 2012 | Scott Paulson
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:03:42 AM by KeyLargo
Tomb of the Unknown Soldier disrespect not tolerated
November 20, 2012 By: Scott Paulson
Oh I agree, but we need to throw sand in the right direction.
Pentagon Has Full Confidence in Africom Commander, Little Says
By Army Sgt. 1st Class Tyrone C. Marshall Jr.
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Oct. 31, 2012 Defense Department leaders remain fully confident in the commander of U.S. Africa Command, Pentagon Press Secretary George Little told Pentagon reporters here today.
Little said Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, maintain complete faith in the job Army Gen. Carter F. Ham is doing as Africoms leader.
General Ham is doing an exceptional job leading Africa Command. He has the full confidence of the secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, he said.
His decision to retire has been an entirely personal decision to move on, Little said. People retire at certain stages of their career and thats whats happening in this case.
President Barack Obama announced Oct. 18 his plans to nominate Army Gen. David M. Rodriguez to succeed Ham as leader of Africom, the newest combatant command, which is headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany. The command encompasses all of Africa and its adjacent waters except for Egypt.
The chairman dismissed alleged reasons for Hams departure in an Oct. 29 statement.
“The speculation that General Carter Ham is departing Africa Command due to events in Benghazi, Libya, on [Sept. 11,] 2012 is absolutely false, Dempsey said in his statement. General Ham’s departure is part of routine succession planning that has been ongoing since July. He continues to serve in Africom with my complete confidence.”
Little also dispelled rumors that Ham will step down from his position next year for any reason other than personal choice.
Theres been a lot of rumor and speculation, particularly in the blogosphere, about General Ham, he said. And that speculation and those rumors are absolutely, categorically false.
He will continue to lead Africa Command, he said, and he is on the job, doing it effectively, and we expect him to do so until he retires and transitions to General Rodriguez — if General Rodriguez is confirmed by the United States Senate.
The press secretary said he didnt have a timeline for when Ham will step down and Rodriguez might assume command.
A lot of it will depend on Senate action, Little said. We believe the hearings will take place in the next couple of months, and then well decide when a change of command is appropriate.
Doesnt matter one way or the other for Sorcha Faal’s reliability.
Faal is an old disinof agent on par with the “mysterious” Israel Shamir.
My husband was in the Air Force during Viet Nam. There was a news story several years ago about a general and whether he was lying. I do not recall the story but it’s not important. I remember I asked my husband if he thought generals lied. He said “of course they do, how do you think they get to be generals”? I admit I was shocked. I am naive about military things and I was actually sad that respected military leaders didn’t really deserve to be respected after all.
Yeh debunked by the Whitehouse and the MSM. All credible sources. Sarc.
Wasn’t it Stalin that got rid of all his upper echelon generals?
Now Barry has gotten rid of McKrystal, Petraeus, Ham, and the Naval Admiral. They are being replaced with lower echelon guys that Barry I mean Valerie Jarrett and George Soros can control.
He’s going to try to take over. Its not like the folks haven’t suspected this for 4 years. There is a reason the guns have been flying off the shelves.
All true but doesn’t mean there was a military coup planned
“I admit I was shocked. I am naive about military things and I was actually sad that respected military leaders didnt really deserve to be respected after all.”
Many military leaders deserve respect. Some deserve jail.
Generals are politicians first and foremost.
I am finding that out.
I find myself agreeing with Damn Near everything Ann Barnhardt has been saying lately, and it freaks me the heck out.......
Sorcha Faal? Come on, you have not heard about this fool’s track record tricks all these years? He/she/it is the star of fear porn. Lies, lies, lies...
Yes.. that's clear. My first thought was to remember the Cold War Soviet disinformation.
What I am saying is I want a military coup and have ever since the late 1960s.
The 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats were celebrated in the establishment MSM as the most intelligent generation ever!. They are now arguably that very establishment that praised them and they hold themselves and their ideological issue in even higher regard.
I knew back then what it would be like within a generation or two.. Abe even warned us from "the other side."
You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.
Obama will not finish his second term— I believe he will be forced to resign due to scandals and crimes. We shall see how things roll in 2013.
If it gets to that point, I guarantee the Rats will turn him into a martyr, y'know, "Never let a crisis go to waste."
“I believe he will be forced to resign due to scandals and crimes.”
What planet are you on? Nothing — absolutely nothing — and nobody will force Obama to resign. He has the Senate and the media. Anyhow, for democrats, “scandals and crimes” are resume enhancers.
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Very interesting thread.
Now we know the Russian Intel is reading FR.