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Has Ann Barnhardt been arrested by the Feds?
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Posted on 12/18/2012 10:36:38 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Ann Barnhardt declared a tax strike and had her bank account seized by the IRS in November. She has not posted on her site for nine days. Does anyone know what is going on with her?

A Discussion With Ann Barnhardt About Her Tax Strike


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To: muawiyah

In the public eye, true. Not too wise to make a public declaration— it begins to give a side to the powers that be with a “movement” that needs to be dealt with- a movement with some of whose members really ARE nuts.

All this stuff just reminds one of the process by which the communists work— gradually make everything against the law, and you WILL find violators and everyone needing “control”, and put them all in jail and silenced.
As, you know— “she’s nuts”. The Soviet way.


41 posted on 12/18/2012 12:17:14 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Ann previously shut down her grain brokerage and other businesses. I believe (believe) she said she was not going to pay any taxes on them on Constitutional grounds.

On October 27, 2012 (Ann's 36th birthday), Ann posted:

"Today is my 36th birthday.

"Today is also the day that the IRS confiscated my bank account. I think that is positively poetic. Now you people know why I keep saying that this website won't be around much longer and YOU will have to rebuild after the collapse and war. This isn't a game. This is completely, totally real.

"I heard it said recently that saints are people who put their money where their mouth is. I hope that's right. I pray that's right.

"Here is this morning's online image from my Wells Fargo personal checking account. I anticipate the business accounts will be drained early next week, too. I further expect that any monies that I attempt to deposit into any of my bank accounts will be swept by the IRS. They claim my "bill" is into the six figures, so $20,000 to them is just the very, very beginning.

"They will also be coming after my car and my home.

"I'm glad I bought a year's worth of freeze-dried food. Looks like I'm going to be needing it. But today, for my birthday, today will be a DOUBLE bacon cheeseburger day. And a strawberry malted.

Source: October 27, 2012 posting on blog

42 posted on 12/18/2012 12:21:42 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The latest video she produced less than two weeks ago, she was on a major rant...she was inviting the Feds to come after her.

I was thinking the whole time while watching, when the Feds see this, they will come aknocken.


43 posted on 12/18/2012 12:32:39 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: 1rudeboy; E. Pluribus Unum

Why don’t you, then. And remain silent until you do. K? Then, rub away, bubbadoo, and we can all have a laugh, cause the joke’s on you.

This would help immensely, in the spirit of a dialogue, rather than having to engage with the uninformed then being dragged down to a lower level and beaten by their “experience”.

Incidentally, EPluribusUnum was ASKING if she had been arrested (it is in the original posting headline).

Further- Deo Vindice.


44 posted on 12/18/2012 12:32:39 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: isom35

I agree! I called the number on her website and she actually answered the phone. I proceeded to tell her how much I like her views.


45 posted on 12/18/2012 12:36:21 PM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: Scoutmaster

I’m not saying the IRS can’t levy your bank account, I’m just saying they give you the opportunity to go to court first. If she throws away IRS notices unread, she probably lost her chances to go to court.


46 posted on 12/18/2012 12:45:48 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

THe nice thing about a thread like this is how the goal posts can move so often.

We went from wondering if the IRS might have struck a retaliatory strike against her for saying bad things about them, to a post showing how she has ignored all legal remedies for them collecting what they say is due.

Hard to tell from what I’m reading whether she really should have owed money, but she doesn’t appear to have done anything to defend her position.

At one point in my life, I went 4 years without filing my taxes, mostly because I was having trouble coping with some large stock losses and the doing the tax forms would make it “real”. Eventually, the IRS sent me a bill for $72,000, since they based the amount on my total stock sales, ignoring the churn and how much I had lost.

If I had done nothing, I guess they would have collected that money. Of course, not being an idiot, I bought a tax program and did my taxes, and got a huge refund (I had been withholding all those years) complete with interest.

How smart is it, if you think the government is evil, to go out of your way to give them your money, as she seems to have done?


47 posted on 12/18/2012 1:28:59 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Lurking Libertarian
As a Lawyer, you'll appreciate the stupidity or "boldness" of this move.

Here is what Ann says she was going to do:

Ann:

I'll just give you an example so you know what I mean. I found out that when you don't file with the IRS, what they do is "subpoena" your bank statements from your bank, and then they simply go in and add up all of the credits in your bank account and IGNORE ALL OF THE DEBITS. No expenses are recognized whatsoever. Every dollar "in" is considered to be pure, fully-taxable income.

Sounds horrible, right? Especially if you are a business owner like me, right?

So, how do I make this work for me? Simple. I'm going to get some cash deposited into the bank in a quantity that I am prepared to lose, and then I am going to login to my online banking interface and sit here all blessed day and transfer that quantity of money between my bank accounts. I'm hoping to "generate" "income" in the form of credit entries on my bank statements into the eight figures.

She is absolutely right -- if you don't file an income tax form, they presume that all your deposits are income, all your stock sales are zero-cost basis, etc.

How this "works" for her is beyond me. It just seems she has come up with a scheme whereby she can give the IRS legal justification to seize everything she has.

This is like "getting" the man by confessing to crimes you didn't commit. Sure, I guess they look stupid because they convict an innocent man. On the other hand, you confessed and now are in prison.

I actually enjoy reading some of what she writes, and I think she actually knows what she is talking about from time to time.

Unfortunately, the wise counsel is interspersed with lunacy.

48 posted on 12/18/2012 1:54:26 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: LurkingSince'98
you don’t like women with cajones,

I love women with cajones, I just avoid women who think they can legally not pay their taxes.........(not that that's a bad thing)

That's been tried over, and over and over.......ad nauseum and the ultimate result is you pay your taxes or go to jail......

49 posted on 12/18/2012 2:00:29 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
I'm sorry if I left the impression that I was saying you were wrong. I wasn't. I was simply trying to lay out some information from Ann's own website for the benefit of others who were posting.

I agree with you that the IRS gives you the opportunity to go to court first.

50 posted on 12/18/2012 2:04:55 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Marathoner
I tell you what, if I had half her guts I’d refuse to pay anything pertaining to this stupid and immoral Obamacare, expecially as pertaining to abortion coverage.

Bro, you've got the guts and you know it! You've also got our support! Just do it homie!

51 posted on 12/18/2012 2:05:37 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: John S Mosby
Incidentally, EPluribusUnum was ASKING if she had been arrested (it is in the original posting headline).

I got that, idiot. And when I asked a simple question, I got nothing. So shove it.

52 posted on 12/18/2012 2:10:07 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Lurking Libertarian
If she throws away IRS notices unread, she probably lost her chances to go to court.

As you know, default judgment, probably . . . as long as it's still in Tax Court, and not a criminal matter.

Funny story: I watched an attorney for the IRS demolish some poor bloke who claimed that he "never saw the letters." He simply argued, "on this, and this, and this date you cashed the checks we sent you . . . how come you didn't open our other letters?"

53 posted on 12/18/2012 2:16:00 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: TheRhinelander
feh...
54 posted on 12/18/2012 2:47:52 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: riri

Exactly what I told the wife last night. We need to watch this AB situation closely. And pray for her.


55 posted on 12/18/2012 3:32:31 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: TheRhinelander
Yes, I know what’s going on with her. She’s bat crap crazy, that’s what.

True dat!

56 posted on 12/18/2012 3:54:16 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: LurkingSince'98
My guess is: you don’t like women with cajones,

don’t like Catholics who speak the truth of their faith,

are fearful of the IRS (cause if you aren’t tell us about your tax strike),

probably haven’t even read all her posts.

Lurking’

Dude, I like a lot of what she says, but, c'mon, she's obviously nuts. Don't lose your ability to analyze a situation just because you like what's being said.

57 posted on 12/18/2012 4:00:35 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Nachum

I know an ex-high school classmate of my mine who thought because he was a dentist, he didn’t have to pay income taxes. He believed there was something in the income tax amendment that exempted people like him from paying income taxes. He thought wrong. He was convicted twice of failing to pay his taxes and sent to prison each time. I don’t know if he’s in the jug at this moment.


58 posted on 12/18/2012 4:04:29 PM PST by driftless2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

bfl


59 posted on 12/18/2012 4:49:41 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I emailed her this morning, and she never responded. I emailed her twice in the past, and she responded within minutes both times.

Wherever she is, she doesn't have her iPhone with her.

60 posted on 12/18/2012 5:00:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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