Posted on 12/23/2012 1:26:07 PM PST by upchuck
Ordinarily, I'd agree that THIS is no time to be arguing gun control. With the pain still intense in Connecticut, there should have been a truce declared, to allow for grieving. But the plain truth is, those who declare that a good crisis must not be wasted, jumped the gun (as they usually do) and began a nationwide PR war through the national Mainstream Media to bring as much pressure to bear as they possible could on our government for laws to ban certain guns, eventually ALL guns in the hands of US civilians.
To those on the political and those pushing gun control -- in the childish naivete -- You need to understand two things: One -- Americans are NOT going to give up their guns! That's one. Number two is this: If you really want to begin a civil war in this country, continue your efforts to take those guns and you will most certainly have one, and I do not think you have any idea, any inkling, of just how ferocious and brutal such a war can be.
If you thought for one moment that American gun owners would assume the fetal position and begin sucking their thumbs -- please allow me to disabuse you of that monstrously mistaken assumption!
For the past four years gun owners across America have been planning for just such a move by the gun control crowd. They have been purchasing weapons in record numbers and they have created secret caches of both weapons and ammunition that you simply will not believe. I'd go so far as to say some are even "leaning forward," eager for the chance to protect the US Constitution.
Look. Trying to confiscate Americans guns will erupt in pitched firefights, gun battles, between American civilians and government law officers. The government will, as Charlton Heston famously stated, have to "pry the weapons from their cold dead hands." Heck, the government might actually get away with a couple of such encounters before the backlash begins. But it will begin -- and when it does, there will be hell to pay. In the end, it will be the end of the United States as we know it.
Understand. There are some states that will move to secede rather than obey federal laws that force their citizens to disarm. Other states will arrest and incarcerate federal officers attempting to disarm that states citizens within the physical boundaries of that state.
I just don't think the gun control folks are thinking with their brains. They exude emotion -- PURE emotion, and a dangerous lack of common sense. What they are pushing for will bring nothing less than wreck and ruin to this country.
Do you realize that the number of armed American hunters, alone, surpasses the numbers of all the standing armies of the world -- combined? Deer hunters in just one state, alone, number more than the armies of Iran, France, and Germany combined! SOURCE: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1889966/pg1 Do you realize that a HUGE proportion of them are veterans of the finest military on the planet?
And don't think you can just track gun hoarders down and arrest them. It took the US military TEN YEARS to find Osama Bin Laden -- and he was one man! Try rounding up millions. Can you see the nightmare?
A law that would try to confiscate guns in America would, like Prohibition, suddenly turn America into a nation of criminals. The Eighteenth Amendment to the Constitution, and the Volstead Act caused multiple deaths. "Effective enforcement of the alcohol ban during the Prohibition Era proved to be very difficult and led to widespread flouting of the law. The lack of a solid popular consensus for the ban resulted in the growth of vast criminal organizations, including the modern American Mafia, and various other criminal cliques. Widespread disregard of the law also generated rampant corruption among politicians and within police forces." SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States
Banning so-called assault weapons (otherwise known as "scary looking" weapons) does next to nothing to reduce gun crime. "The Justice Department’s interviews also showed so-called “assault weapons” are not a major cause of gun violence. Only about 8 percent of the inmates used one of the models covered in the now-expired assault weapons ban... ." Read more at: http://www.wnd.com/2004/12/28253/#Kfd7EWciAw0jzwQi.99
Consider this: "Meanwhile, a study released by the Justice Department suggesting background checks at gun shows would do little to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals.
The study noted the number of criminals who obtained guns from retail outlets was dwarfed by the number of those who picked up their arms through means other than legal purchases. The report was the result of interviews with more than 18,000 state and federal inmates conducted nationwide. It found that nearly 80 percent of those interviewed got their guns from friends or family members, or on the street through illegal purchases." Read more at: http://www.wnd.com/2004/12/28253/#Kfd7EWciAw0jzwQi.99
As I write this in my office, behind me on my desk are five containers of ammunition from 30 caliber to 12 gauge double-ought buckshot. Leaning against the wall is one of my guns -- well within arm's length. Visitors to my office think nothing of it. It is a way of life. I began shooting at the age of six. I am always armed -- either with an "edged weapon" or a firearm.
Let's be clear. ASKING gun owners to give up their guns is insulting. DEMANDING that we give them up is going to get someone hurt.
I realize the words above are strong. That is intentional. I am trying to convey to gun control advocates and the Mainstream Media the seriousness of what they are doing and the indelicate manner in which the are approaching the issue. DEMANDING that an American citizen give up a constitutional right is bad enough, but demanding that he give up a constitutional right upon which his freedom and his very life may depend is the ultimate insult and is nothing less than an assault on the constitution itself. This we cannot, we will not, abide.
A note to our national legislators. Those of you supporting gun control legislation should understand it will be a career-ending move on your part. We will brook no such unpleasant nonsense from you.
Gun owners did not seek this fight. We most certainly did not initiate it. Too, we are sick, ad nauseum, of your continuous attacks on our way of life, on our constitutional as well as God given rights as American citizens, and we are sick, beyond words, of your elitist attitude.
As red-blooded Americans have done throughout our history, we will avoid a fight for as long as it is practicable to do so. But when the fight is brought to us we WILL engage with our considerable resources with one goal in mind and that is the utter defeat of our adversary, and a guarantee that the conflict will never be resuscitated, EVER, again.
"Molṑn labéis" ( Molon Labe) is a classical expression of defiance reportedly spoken by King Leonidas I in response to the Persian army's demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons at the Battle of Thermopylae. I am seeing more and more e-mails and commentaries on blogs, all over the Internet theses days, close with these two words of defiance. It has quickly become the signature phrase for gun control resistance.
So what does "molon labe" mean? Well, it is an invitation -- and a challenge -- all rolled into one. From the original Greek molon labe means: "Come and take 'em."
Since self-defense is a God-given right I would add a second phrase of recognition one which my Confederate ancestors affixed often to their missives: "Deo Vindici," which means: "God is with us."
This is a struggle gun owners of America did not seek, do not want, but -- intend to win decisively.
J. D. Longstreet
I find it highly practical. Mr. Longstreet merely states in writing what many of us are already thinking.
I will not comply.
>>Some may feel this article is radical, even scaremongering.<<
When I get back to Dallas after this vacation I am going to pick up a few more guns and a LOT of ammo.
I have been after the wife to learn arms use and safety. I going to shift to “INSIST” mode.
To give up your guns is to commit suicide. I, of course, have no guns, mind you.
This is a strong, ASSERTIVE, statement.
It is not passive, it is not aggressive.
With all the liberal political correctness, most Americans are not used to hearing assertive speech.They mistakenly refer to being assertive as “scaremongering” or “aggressive.”
When people are not able to be assertive , they often end up ‘aggressive.”
Yes it is. And we sorely need more of this. MUCH more.
Every time an incident like this comes up, it’s the perfect time to discuss gun control.
Like how gun free zones are killing fields. Like having nobody allowd to have weapons to protect anyone in/around the school makes no sense when you’re dealing with murderers who don’t care about any laws - or lives, for that matter.
Like how a PERSON’S INTENT is what makes them dangerous, not whether they have a gun or not. Trying to break the stupid arguments and slogans of the left at times like this are critical because that’s what the usually sheeple folks are thinking about and talking about. Trying to get them to understand it’s the stupid disarming policies of law-abiding people that leave such people helpless to criminals - who have intent (INTENT) to do evil things of all sorts - that requires immediate countering of the left’s even more idiotic comments.
Like explaining why anyone should feel safer because they, their parents, their sons and daughters, are disarmed but the criminals will still have their weapons?
Like if we have rights to inane things like free birth control and abortion, free obamaphones, etc, surely we have a right to life - and inherent in that right to life, the right to self defense to preserve that life, up to lethal force to stop someone from killing us?
Like if the left really believes this, lets disarm all police, disarm the secret service, the military, and all the elite left’s bodyguards who can afford to pay someone else to carry a gun for them. Let’s disarm the Capitol police force and all security officers across government. FBI, DEA, ATF, IRS - no more guns for you guys. All police and sheriffs - no more guns. We’ll all be safer. Look how many less guns there will be to hurt others.
The left can’t just go unchallenged and have 100% control of the dialogue at these times. They aren’t shutting up and we shouldn’t either. It’s the BEST TIME to debate and have a chance to get people to really see disarmament only gets unarmed law-abiding people killed by criminals with murderous intent.
REFRAME THE ARGUMENT. We have to every time. It’s the INTENT of the person with the gun. There’s no problems with law-abiding people having any kind of gun they want. That’s not who’s doing this. They place the blame for this on every other person than the criminal herself (or himself).
And when you discuss this, use the female pronoun first, the libs like doing that - but onlyfor positive statements, we can see how they like it when it’s done for negative statements.
What will be the incident that will result in “We The People” asserting our rights?
Am I going to have to shoot the police when they come to the front door? Will there be some sort of armed march on a Fed Facility somewhere?
Should we start organizing in the neighborhood? Find out where the like minded souls live, plan the barricades?
“ASKING gun owners to give up their guns is insulting. DEMANDING that we give them up is going to get someone hurt.”
That’d make a great tag line!
EXCELLANT POST!!!!!!!!!
This HAS been a golden opportunity in disguise...It is WE who “have not let this crisis go to waste.” We have been front and center and done a good job this time reframing this whole issue...eg, La Piere of NRA on Sun news show today. Can you imagine....
1. The phrase now in the media: “gun free zones”
2. News anchors now saying ,”Well, uh, there really is confusion about what ‘assault weapon ‘means”
3. should we arm teachers or have armed guards?
4. What should we do about mentally ill people?
etc.
I have spent a lot of time talking to and sending educational emails to many friends!
That's an excellent point. Gun owners should also respond the way the illegal foreign nationals have. "We don't like your laws! CHANGE THEM OR ELSE!"
One thing too that the Media should consider, many people consider them to be not only complicit but the enemy also when it comes to the 2nd amendment revocation and gun confiscation. And to many of those an enemy is also a target.
I’m not advocating this view, I’m just saying that there are those who believe that. Word to the wise, ya’know.
Bookmark.
At this point I’ve got to agree with Rick Santorum. Congress is not going to save us. We have to hold the line at the state level.
I cannot express truly how much I appreciate Mr. Longstreet’s words in this article.
They just don’t get it. Whenever there are rumblings of gun control, or a president is elected that is pro gun control, americans buy more guns in response. If it wasn’t for gun control americans would probably only have half the guns they have.
The author is right, these arrogant politicos have no idea what they are dealing with, totally clueless.
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