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Letter: How much would armed guards really cost?
The Free Lance-Star ^ | January 15, 2013 | Dave Head

Posted on 01/15/2013 10:02:39 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

How much would armed guards really cost? Fifty cents a day. That's what liberal gun-grabbers have deemed "too expensive" for each of us to give up in order to keep kids safe at school.

The quoted cost of two police officers in every school in the nation is supposedly $26 billion. We have 144 million taxpayers. Do the math, and that is slightly less than 50 cents per taxpayer per day.

But the gun-grabbers have not done the math. They don't want to. They throw out the "too expensive" scarecrow with abandon, hoping to derail the only tactic that will work.

They and the liberal media piled on this idea as soon as NRA representative Wayne LaPierre offered it in a news conference. The solution does not fit their decades-long ultimate goal of gun control and eventual confiscation.

There are 300 million guns in U.S., so virtually everyone in the country knows someone from whom he can borrow or steal a gun for his purposes, if he does not already own one himself...

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; sandyhook; security
Volunteers, private security or people already employed by the school district would make it even less expensive.
1 posted on 01/15/2013 10:02:44 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Who cares how much anything costs?

The Fed prints money like it was free.

2 posted on 01/15/2013 10:04:05 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The left is irrationally opposed to having armed police officers in schools because “having more guns won’t solve the problem”

The left is mad. A police officer with a gun is the best deterrent to a crazy person intent on murdering innocents.

The left obviously wants more kids killed so they can “justify” seizing all guns from honest, law-abiding people and deliberately leaving them in the hands of violent criminals.


3 posted on 01/15/2013 10:06:58 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just get rid of the “literacy coach” or the “science specialist” or some other make work jobs to clear up the budget for a useful employee.


4 posted on 01/15/2013 10:08:54 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: I want the USA back
The left is irrationally opposed to having armed police officers in schools because “having more guns won’t solve the problem”

Considering the fact that there have been shootings at a fraction of a percent of schools in America, putting cops in all of them is just as irrational.
5 posted on 01/15/2013 10:12:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They have enough money to have a ‘helper’ on the school busses...

When I was a kid you only had the driver. And cross walk guards- I dont remember seeing them when I was small (not this many at least)

But they have administrators and assistant administrators and deputy secrectary admins and 2nd undersecretary to the first admin... etc etc.


6 posted on 01/15/2013 10:14:30 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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In 5th and 6th grade, I was the crossing guard. Had a white “Sam Brown” belt and a little badge. Don’t remember the name of the program. Safety something or other.


7 posted on 01/15/2013 10:19:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have a crazy idea, we give 2 billion to the terror state Egypt, we give a billion to Pakistan, we have spend 6 billion on Afghanistan, we gave another billion to Libya.
HOws about we round up all the money we gove to islamic nutball terror states and use some of THAT money?


8 posted on 01/15/2013 10:20:02 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You don’t need to pay new people just to be there for security. A better solution is to simply give existing teachers and school officials the OPTION of carrying a gun. Many of them would like to do so, but are currently not allowed to.


9 posted on 01/15/2013 10:23:26 AM PST by arista
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We already waste entirely too much money on education with very inadequate results. Be careful not to fall into the classic liberal mindset that if we just spent a little extra money, then a problem is solved. By the way, it isn't a little extra money. It is $182 per taxpayer per year ... well kinda. There are not 144 million paying federal income taxes. There are 144 million filing income tax returns. It will be double or triple of the $182 to people that actually pay federal income taxes.

The second problem with this money solves all problems approach is that it won't work. An armed guard can't be everywhere in a large school. There will still be school shootings. It has nothing to do with guns.

I will go along with a free approach where teachers and school administrators carry weapons. That will be much more effective than an armed guard or two and the price is right.

In the mean time, if anyone is so worried they should homeschool. Don't ask me to waste my tax dollars on an emotional non-solution.

10 posted on 01/15/2013 10:26:19 AM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In 5th and 6th grade, I was the crossing guard. Had a white “Sam Brown” belt and a little badge. Don’t remember the name of the program. Safety something or other.

Me too, mid 1970s, only my Sam Brown belt was orange, and it was called Safety Patrol. Between crossing guard shifts, I could fold up my belt into a "Cat's Paw" and hook it to my belt and wear it in class.

11 posted on 01/15/2013 10:32:17 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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[[Do the math, and that is slightly less than 50 cents per taxpayer per day.]]

Bu that’s 50 centrs of crack peopel won’t get to smoke every day- you monster!


12 posted on 01/15/2013 10:36:06 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: cripplecreek
Considering the fact that there have been shootings at a fraction of a percent of schools in America, putting cops in all of them is just as irrational.

Yes, but less irrational than banning guns.

We are living in a "don't just stand there, DO something" climate. Sadly, most people rely on their emotions rather than on logic; so it doesn't matter to them that the totalitarian agenda being proposed by the Left will have no positive effect whatsoever. They still demand that "something be done," and they will grasp at the Left's "solutions" if we on the Right leave a vacuum.

So as I see it, we have little choice but to "DO" something ... if only to offer a counter action that has a chance of stopping the Left's march toward tyranny. We might as well "do" the least harmful thing, i.e., put an armed guard in every school (provided it's the discretion of each local school district, not forced via federally-imposed mandate).

I recently calculated the cost of my local public school district to local property taxpayers:
It is about $15/day.
(And this district is considered a relatively frugal operation.)

Since I'm already having to cough up $15/day to support my local public schools, an extra 50¢/day would amount to about a 3% hike. Not pleasant, but I'd rather pay that, than see our Constitution shredded.

13 posted on 01/15/2013 10:40:29 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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Americans have typically looked at issues from the human perspective and NOT from the dollars and cents perspective.

This is an eye-opening article on how far we have sunk into the crapper when the dollars and cents of an issue take precedence over human life.

Disgraceful!


14 posted on 01/15/2013 11:01:57 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$26 billion / year is a BS number to begin with.

93,295 schools x 2 x $50k = $9.2 billion

But two guards per school are not required. In fact, hire an above average janitor and pay him an extra $10k a year to carry. Now you are at less than $1 billion.


On a separate note, I remember the left screaming that we overreacted to the attacks on 9-11. With over 93,250 public schools and a mass shooting every 23 years, there is one chance in 2,144,750 of a school being attacked in any given year. Meanwhile, there are over 8,000 home invasions every day, with 38% of assaults & 60% of rapes occurring during home invasions.

So who are they protecting by taking away our weapons?


15 posted on 01/15/2013 11:06:25 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don’t remember the name of the program. Safety something or other.

Safety patrol. I was also a safety patrol when I was in elementary school.

The problem for the left is that safety patrols gave kids the wrong impression - it gave them the impression that they could DO something to keep the schools safe and gain some maturity in the process.

God knows, we don't want kids with those kinds of ideas!! /sarc

16 posted on 01/15/2013 11:06:25 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t want to pay a dime to protect the lives of children in public schools.


17 posted on 01/15/2013 11:07:57 AM PST by impimp
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To: SampleMan

My latr father, a retired Marine gunnery sergeant, worked as a school custodian for several years in the 1960’s. I’m sure he’d have been glad to make some extra money guarding the schoolchildren.


18 posted on 01/15/2013 11:42:02 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An amazingly simple first step is to allow staff and faculty who already have concealed carry permits to carry at work. Cost? Zero.


19 posted on 01/15/2013 12:27:55 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Mr. K

The school system my sister used to work for had at least three assistant/vice everything’s with full staffs and cars provided by the school system. The first 7 pages of the system phone book was all administrative staff.


20 posted on 01/15/2013 12:33:12 PM PST by redangus
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