Finally, a Sensible Gun Control Solution

Flopping Aces ^ | 01-15-13 | Brother Bob

[Starman417]

We have plenty of housing developments being built in this country – why not begin designating some as gun free communities? And if there is enough demand for these communities we could incorporate gun free townships.

... This would place all of the anti-gun crowd in an enclave where they know that none of their neighbors will be armed with guns, save for local law enforcement. To see if such a planned community could work I would place one other caveat: the gun free zones would not be allowed to have any additional police protection beyond what other communities have. To see if such an experiment could work we need to have an apples to apples comparison. Naysayers would argue that places that already have strict gun laws, like Chicago, DC, or New York have such problems because guns already exist in those communities. Here is a chance to start from scratch. Finally, there is no longer any worry that your neighbor might be one of those crazed gun nuts! And I have a feeling that your gun owning neighbor won’t shed too many tears when you leave.

(excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...

[CottShop]

[[why not begin designating some as gun free communities?]]

Why not? Because NOONE has a constitutional right to deny ANYONE their constitutionmal rights- that’s why not

[maine yankee]

What a great idea.

After all, Every municipal and federal housing project is a gun free zone. And we all know how well that’s working out.

[BuckeyeTexan]

No, it’s not a sensible solution. It’s a stupid idea.

[ScottinVA]

Chill, folks... not the “humor” tag.

[ScottinVA]

Chill, folks... note the “humor” tag.

[kevkrom]

No, it’s not a sensible solution. It’s a stupid idea.

File this under "illustrating absurdity by being absurd", c.f., Swift's A Modest Proposal.

[Popman]

Excellent idea....but falls short...

As well as being gun free...they need to expand to include: knives, bats, lugwrench, tire iron, slipperly surfaces, sharp corners on furniture, and of course mommas favorite....the iron frying pan...

[DustyMoment]

What nonsense. Gun free zones are an open invitation to CRIMINALS who DON”T comply withe law! But, they WILL comply with someone pointing a loaded gun at them.

Instead of blathering about gun free zones, why not do what the Swiss do? Here is some info I downloaded from the BBC:

“Guns are deeply rooted within Swiss culture - but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept. The country has a population of six million, but there are estimated to be at least two million publicly-owned firearms, including about 600,000 automatic rifles and 500,000 pistols.

This is in a very large part due to Switzerland’s unique system of national defence, developed over the centuries.

Instead of a standing, full-time army, the country requires every man to undergo some form of military training for a few days or weeks a year throughout most of their lives.

Between the ages of 21 and 32 men serve as frontline troops. They are given an M-57 assault rifle and 24 rounds of ammunition which they are required to keep at home.

Once discharged, men serve in the Swiss equivalent of the US National Guard, but still have to train occasionally and are given bolt rifles. Women do not have to own firearms, but are encouraged to.”

This makes more sense to me. If you and your neighbors know who has the gun and the ammo, and you know that all men have received some level of military training, it tends to make the criminals more circumspect.

IOW (to borrow a line from “Dirty Harry”) do they feel lucky today??

[cableguymn]

I think they call it “public housing”

[Yosemitest]

You might like this.

Therefore, as much as my soul laments against the harsh truth before me, I make this declaration to my enemies who press me into this battle, that none shall be able to afterwards say “I did not know, you did not warn me”;

I do not care WHY you took that job with the government, or WHY you continue to hold it.  I only know that YOU have become Judas and sold yourself to an oppressive state - your government office buildings and vehicles are part of the battlefield, and as a soldier I shall act accordingly.

I do not care WHY, as a journalist, you choose to spin and corrupt the news, rather than report the plain truth and let the people judge for themselves.  I only know that YOU have violated the public trust in the most vile and seditious manner, and thus your homes, offices, studios, vehicles, and any other place you may find yourself are part of the battlefield, and as a soldier I shall act accordingly.

I do not care WHY you signed that union card.  I only know that YOU pay dues to a communist organization which conducts treasonous works against my Republic daily – and so your union hall and your work-sites are part of the battlefield, and as a soldier I shall act accordingly.

I do not care that YOU only voted for the TRAITOR because you are elderly/disabled or otherwise dependent upon government largess.  Are YOU so ignorant and/or disinterested that you could not see through their propaganda, to the fact that your sustenance was assured either way?  What have YOU gained now that the public housing areas you live in, and the public facilities you depend on are part of the battlefield?  Though I am a soldier, I can afford you LITTLE protection, for YOU have placed yourselves on the battlefield.



I know that all of these places and all of these people are PART of the battlefield ,not just because I am a soldier, and have experienced a few battlefields in my day; but also because our President DECLARES that even our own homes are on the battlefield, whether we wish them to be or not, and I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO BELIEVE HIM; it’s not just that the NDAA passed – a battlefield is not defined by law; it’s the profound build-up of martial power and resources across my once-great nation which tells me a battle is being prepared here.  Over two billion rounds of ammunition procured by DHS and its sub-agencies in the past 18 months, plus machine guns in the tens of thousands, armored vehicles, combat aircraft, drones, and other implements of war being staged throughout our nation, our home – how do YOU explain that EXCEPT as the preparation for battle?

 

I WILL FIGHT not because I desire it, but because I CANNOT JUSTIFY ANY OTHER COURSE OF ACTION – when the enemy attacks, you MUST fight – you MUST kill or you will die. 

I smell YOU, my enemy; I can feel the ambush YOU have laid for me and my true countrymen, all about like a sticky spider’s web, yet WE will not back down, and though YOU will kill some of us, you will not get us ALL before we have FINISHED with you.

I stand here, ready, on the eve of battle, and I ask God WHY I have been brought to the threshold of this battlefield, about to be thrust in, when I thought my soldiering days were through; and I am reminded that there is by His decree, a Time to Kill, as well as a Time to Die…  who am I to question WHY ?

 Saddle up, boys, it’s time to ride out and meet them.

For those who are willing, simply comment with the words “I will stand”, that the enemies of Liberty may know what they face, and perhaps relent - it is our duty first to serve peace, even if to do so we must make war.

Very well stated.
The United States Citizens KNOW that they're going to have to fight TYRANTS in their own government.
You cannot protect life, without the ability to take life.

While you are WAITING for the police to respond, someone could be losing their life.
All people of a responsible age should be armed.

As EternalVigilance reminded us:

The Second Amendment IS Pro-Life.

"Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these:
First, a right to life;
Secondly, to liberty;
Thirdly, to property;
together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.
These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation,
commonly called the first law of nature...
In short, it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at the entering into society,
to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights;
when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights;
the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.
If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation.
The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty,
it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift
and voluntarily become a slave."




-- Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists

Click here to read the 12 page pamphlet.

Let us NEVER FORGET THAT !

Let's subjugate them to OUR end game, DUST!
"COMPROMISE" is a DIRTY word!
People who study the Bible know that COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.


It's time to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.


The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn from the Swiss and implement their "gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!
These laws are the ones we should shove into the "2nd Amendment Haters" faces.

" Today, military service for Swiss males is universal. At about age 20, every Swiss male goes through 118 consecutive days of recruit training in the Rekrutenschule. ...

Even before required training begins, young men and women may take optional courses with the Swiss army's M57 assault rifle.
They keep that gun at home for three months and receive six half-day training sessions.

From age 21 to 32, a Swiss man serves as a "frontline" troop in the Auszug, and devotes three weeks a year (in eight of the 12 years) to continued training.
From age 33 to 42, he serves in the Landwehr (like America's National Guard); every few years, he reports for two-week training periods.
Finally, from ages 43, to 50, he serves in the Landsturm; in this period, he only spends 13 days total in "home guard courses."

Over a soldier's career he also spends scattered days on mandatory equipment inspections and required target practice.
Thus, in a 30-year mandatory military career, a Swiss man only spends about one year in direct military service.
Following discharge from the regular army, men serve on reserve status until age 50 (55 for officers).

By the Federal Constitution of 1874, military servicemen are given their first equipment, clothing and arms.
After the first training period, conscripts must keep gun, ammunition and equipment an ihrem Wohnort ("in their homes") until the end of their term of service.

Today, enlisted men are issued M57 AUTOMATIC assault rifles and officers are given pistol.
Each reservist is issued 24 rounds of ammunition in sealed packs for emergency use.
(Contrary to Handgun Control's claim that "all ammunition must be accounted for," the emergency ammunition is the only ammo that requires accounting.)

After discharge from service, the man is given a bolt rifle free from registration or obligation.
Starting in the 1994, the government will GIVE ex-reservists assault rifles. Officers carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end of their service.

When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones to the public.

Reservists are encouraged to buy MILITARY ammunition
(7.5 and 5.6mm-5.56 mm in other countries-for rifles and 9 and 7.65 mm Luger for pistols)
which is sold AT COST by the government, for target practice .
Non-military ammunition for long-gun hunting and .22 Long Rifle (LR) ammo are not subsidised, but are subiect to NO sales controls.
Non-military non-hunting ammunition more powerful than .22 LR (such as .38 Spl.) is registered at the time of sale.

Swiss military ammo must be registered IF bought at a private store, BUT NEED NOT BE REGISTERED IF bought at a range.
The nation's 3,000 shooting ranges sell the overwhelming majority of ammunition.
Technically, ammunition bought at the range must be used at the range, but the rule is barely known and almost never obeyed.

The army SELLS a variety of machine guns, submachine guns, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft guns, howitzers and cannons.
Purchasers of these weapons require an EASILY OBTAINED cantonal license, and the weapons are registered.
In a nation of six million people, there are at least two million guns, including 600,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC assault rifles, half a million pistols, and numerous machine guns.
Virtually every home has a gun.

Besides SUBSIDIZED military surplus, the Swiss can buy other firearms easily too.
While long guns require NO special purchase procedures, handguns are sold only to those with a Waffenerwerbsschien (purchase certificate) issued by a cantonal authority.
A certificate is issued to every applicant over 18 who is not a criminal or mentally infirm.

There are NO restrictions on the carrying of long guns.
About half the cantons have strict permit procedures for carrying handguns, and the other half have NO rules at all.
There is NO discernible difference in the crime rate between the cantons as a result of the different policies.

Thanks to a lawsuit brought by the Swiss gun lobby, semi-automatic rifles require NO PURCHASE PERMIT and are NOT registered by the government.
Thus, the ONLY long guns registered by the government are FULL AUTOMATICS."

The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Let's adopt THEIR LAWS !

Remember:

The beauty of the Second Amendment is
that it will not be needed
until they TRY to take it.

Read Second Amendment: It’s Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .

[Sir Napsalot]

Not only that, but make sure there are at least 8 large neon signs that advertise “Gun Free” in all possible directions to approach such community.

The residents can then focus on contemplating evolving / ascending to a ‘better being’.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Wouldn’t work. The liberals will simply surround themselves with high fences and guard monitored gates that open only for residents. Practically no one would get in. If you want to prove something, make the gun grabbing liberals move into the bad sections of town and display their gun free zone signs.

[trebb]

Makes sense to me. After Katrina, when N.O. was confiscating weapons, us folks in MS were carrying ours on our hips and when cops 9local or imported) cruised our neighborhoods and saw the weapons, they knew they didn’t have to waste a lot of time in our area and could look for those that needed protection against looters...Florida State Trooper paused and watched me put up a “Looters will be shot” sign at the entrance to our road, noted the .357 on my hip, touched the brim of his hat and drove off.

[familyop]

Looks like an incrementalist plan from the left. It won’t happen that way. The fascist filth—much more recently descended from Europe than most of us—oozes from those few states and communities to our whole country, defiling it.